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Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

Terry Malin
 

Install blue dv software.


On Sun, May 3, 2020, 11:50 AM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
 Hello;  I got the thumb dv  today and plugged it in  to computer .. want to use it for dmr/dstar ..  Right now plugged directly into usb port  and  NOTHING! no led's .. no prompt as to where to down load software ..  Computers have always been a challenge ..  and here I am trying to get this thing running .. Please  instruct me or direct me to some place i can get step by step instructions to get started .  Thank You . 


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Hi,

You may want to check out this starting page for the ThumbDV: http://nwdigitalradio.com/thumbdv-and-dv3000-resource-page/

I am using the ThumbDV with BlueDV to communicate over D-STAR and DMR. Hope this helps.

73,

--
Dave Slotter, W3DJS


On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:50 PM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
 Hello;  I got the thumb dv  today and plugged it in  to computer .. want to use it for dmr/dstar ..  Right now plugged directly into usb port  and  NOTHING! no led's .. no prompt as to where to down load software ..  Computers have always been a challenge ..  and here I am trying to get this thing running .. Please  instruct me or direct me to some place i can get step by step instructions to get started .  Thank You . 


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Where do I start ? #thumbdv

 

Hi Steve,

Check out BlueDV:

Here’s a tutorial:

Bryan K7UDR





Re: Where do I start ? #thumbdv

Gwen Patton
 

I suggest you start here: http://www.pa7lim.nl/bluedv/

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
 Just got the thumb DV , and I mean .. that was all that was in the package . .. Looked at a couple of you tube videos .. .. Plugged the thumb drive in ... Nothing >>  No new screen comes up , no prompts to go to a site to down load software .. .. I mean I plugged it in and am already in over my head .. where do I go for stepo by step instructions on how to set this up ? 


Re: AMBE opendv transcoding

 

See the folks in the DVswitch group or the XLX/ambed group. 


On Sat, May 2, 2020, 17:19 F4HWB <groups@...> wrote:

Hello

I would like to do an AMBE server which transcode DSTAR <-> DMR

My AMBE Server work correctly with one ThumbDV3000.

I receive my second ThumbDV3000. 

I stop/start the AMBE Server with two file in /etc/opendv/ ambeserver-ttyUSB0.conf and ambeserver-ttyUSB1.conf


root@AMBEServ:/etc/opendv# /usr/sbin/AMBEserver start 

AMBEserver: Starting...

AMBEserver: Opened serial port /dev/ttyUSB0 at 230400 bps.

AMBEserver: Couldn't find start byte in serial data

AMBEserver: error receiving response to reset

AMBEserver: Could not initialize the DV3K!


Is it the good process for transcoding or not ?
Do you know this problem 
initialize the DV3K ?

Thank you


AMBE opendv transcoding

F4HWB
 

Hello

I would like to do an AMBE server which transcode DSTAR <-> DMR

My AMBE Server work correctly with one ThumbDV3000.

I receive my second ThumbDV3000. 

I stop/start the AMBE Server with two file in /etc/opendv/ ambeserver-ttyUSB0.conf and ambeserver-ttyUSB1.conf


root@AMBEServ:/etc/opendv# /usr/sbin/AMBEserver start 

AMBEserver: Starting...

AMBEserver: Opened serial port /dev/ttyUSB0 at 230400 bps.

AMBEserver: Couldn't find start byte in serial data

AMBEserver: error receiving response to reset

AMBEserver: Could not initialize the DV3K!


Is it the good process for transcoding or not ?
Do you know this problem 
initialize the DV3K ?

Thank you


Re: WinDV not answering

Andrew O'Brien
 

My experience with software for a DVAP and a ThumbDV has been far from satisfactory in terms of software support . 

Andy K3UK 


On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Steve Taylor via groups.io <sltay456@...> wrote:

I have been using BlueDV. Just thought I would try something else. I guess ti's time to move on.


Re: WinDV not answering

Steve Taylor <sltay456@...>
 

I have been using BlueDV. Just thought I would try something else. I guess ti's time to move on.


Re: WinDV not answering

 

The author has not actively supported it for a long time (years).

Try BlueDV instead.


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Steve Taylor via groups.io <sltay456=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Does anyone know what has happened to the WinDV site?
I'd like to give it a try. The dutch-star.eu/software  site times out.




--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


WinDV not answering

Steve Taylor <sltay456@...>
 

Does anyone know what has happened to the WinDV site?
I'd like to give it a try. The dutch-star.eu/software  site times out.



Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

I would disagree -- because I have a device almost identical to the ThumbDV -- it is a DV3K AMBE USB dongle, and it works in the same dock just fine. I'm aware both the ThumbDV and DV3K USB dongles have the same two primary chips in them -- an AMBE and FTDI chip.

73,

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:52 AM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:
Maybe the dock isn't properly powering the ThumbDV? I have my ThumbDV on a RasPi III with a powered hub attached. It absolutely will not work on an unpowered hub, or one that has too little power. The port on the RasPi has USB power, but it isn't ENOUGH power. So I have to use a powered hub with plenty of juice. I could run it on my Android phone directly with an OTG cable, but the battery drain was terrible, and I couldn't find a way to run it OTG *and* charge the phone at the same time. So I set it up on the powered hub on a RasPi, with a dynamic DNS connection to a subdomain I got from the dynamic DNS provider. I can access it from anywhere, including on my phone, when away from home, either 4G or WiFi or over the Ethernet LAN at home.

I suspect your dock isn't supplying enough amperage for it. I've seen docks and dongles that you'd think were powered, but really weren't -- all they did was just split the port you plugged them into, and didn't supply any additional power, basically an UNpowered hub. So that'd be my first test -- use a hub with an actual wall wart going to mains power and see if it works better. You could plug the powered hub into the dock and if it works, leave it there.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:35 AM David Dennis <dave@...> wrote:

I assume the ThumbDV is using an FTDI device for the USB to Serial conversion. 

I’ve noticed similar issues when not plugged directly into the PC.   This is compared to a Powered Hub.   I’m starting to be suspect of the FTDI driver.    My guess is the driver may not be forgiving of some timing issue that is made worse when connected through a hub.   But that is just a wild guess.

 

Dave

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:50 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io Notification <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ambe] Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

HAH! That was it!

 

Connecting the ThumbDV directly to the laptop's embedded USB port works. Connecting it to a Dell laptop dock (powered) does not.

 

Of course, that's terribly frustrating. The point of the dock is to avoid plugging in / unplugging equipment.

 

Any idea how to solve this?

 

73,

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

Dave,

I’m baffled. It looks fine. We only change a few values, as you can see in the script, and the manufacturing date is entered by hand and it is correct as well. Are you direct connected to the machine? We have seen some problems with unpowered hubs.

Bryan


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Gwen Patton
 

Maybe the dock isn't properly powering the ThumbDV? I have my ThumbDV on a RasPi III with a powered hub attached. It absolutely will not work on an unpowered hub, or one that has too little power. The port on the RasPi has USB power, but it isn't ENOUGH power. So I have to use a powered hub with plenty of juice. I could run it on my Android phone directly with an OTG cable, but the battery drain was terrible, and I couldn't find a way to run it OTG *and* charge the phone at the same time. So I set it up on the powered hub on a RasPi, with a dynamic DNS connection to a subdomain I got from the dynamic DNS provider. I can access it from anywhere, including on my phone, when away from home, either 4G or WiFi or over the Ethernet LAN at home.

I suspect your dock isn't supplying enough amperage for it. I've seen docks and dongles that you'd think were powered, but really weren't -- all they did was just split the port you plugged them into, and didn't supply any additional power, basically an UNpowered hub. So that'd be my first test -- use a hub with an actual wall wart going to mains power and see if it works better. You could plug the powered hub into the dock and if it works, leave it there.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:35 AM David Dennis <dave@...> wrote:

I assume the ThumbDV is using an FTDI device for the USB to Serial conversion. 

I’ve noticed similar issues when not plugged directly into the PC.   This is compared to a Powered Hub.   I’m starting to be suspect of the FTDI driver.    My guess is the driver may not be forgiving of some timing issue that is made worse when connected through a hub.   But that is just a wild guess.

 

Dave

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:50 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io Notification <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ambe] Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

HAH! That was it!

 

Connecting the ThumbDV directly to the laptop's embedded USB port works. Connecting it to a Dell laptop dock (powered) does not.

 

Of course, that's terribly frustrating. The point of the dock is to avoid plugging in / unplugging equipment.

 

Any idea how to solve this?

 

73,

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

Dave,

I’m baffled. It looks fine. We only change a few values, as you can see in the script, and the manufacturing date is entered by hand and it is correct as well. Are you direct connected to the machine? We have seen some problems with unpowered hubs.

Bryan


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

David Dennis
 

I assume the ThumbDV is using an FTDI device for the USB to Serial conversion. 

I’ve noticed similar issues when not plugged directly into the PC.   This is compared to a Powered Hub.   I’m starting to be suspect of the FTDI driver.    My guess is the driver may not be forgiving of some timing issue that is made worse when connected through a hub.   But that is just a wild guess.

 

Dave

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:50 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io Notification <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ambe] Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

HAH! That was it!

 

Connecting the ThumbDV directly to the laptop's embedded USB port works. Connecting it to a Dell laptop dock (powered) does not.

 

Of course, that's terribly frustrating. The point of the dock is to avoid plugging in / unplugging equipment.

 

Any idea how to solve this?

 

73,

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

Dave,

I’m baffled. It looks fine. We only change a few values, as you can see in the script, and the manufacturing date is entered by hand and it is correct as well. Are you direct connected to the machine? We have seen some problems with unpowered hubs.

Bryan


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Kk4lzx@...
 

Bryan, I also have a Thumb DV which I purchased last November. I’ve tried to run it on a variety of pc’s with Windows 10 & 7 with no success, it never shows up in device manager and no led’s ever light up. I’ve reported it via the support web page.

Can I also return it for an exchange?

John Ashall

On Apr 28, 2020, at 14:05, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

Send it back anyways. The port detect depends on the EEPROM being programmed correctly.

On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

It means the ThumbDV is good. Did both Green/Red LEDs flash?



Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

HAH! That was it!

Connecting the ThumbDV directly to the laptop's embedded USB port works. Connecting it to a Dell laptop dock (powered) does not.

Of course, that's terribly frustrating. The point of the dock is to avoid plugging in / unplugging equipment.

Any idea how to solve this?

73,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
Dave,

I’m baffled. It looks fine. We only change a few values, as you can see in the script, and the manufacturing date is entered by hand and it is correct as well. Are you direct connected to the machine? We have seen some problems with unpowered hubs.

Bryan



--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

Dave,

I’m baffled. It looks fine. We only change a few values, as you can see in the script, and the manufacturing date is entered by hand and it is correct as well. Are you direct connected to the machine? We have seen some problems with unpowered hubs.

Bryan


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Here's the dump:

dave@Moonquake:~/projects/hamradio/NorthwestDigitalRadio/ftx-prog$ ./ftx_prog --dump

ftx_prog: version 0.3
Modified for the FT-X series by Richard Meadows

Based upon:
ft232r_prog: version 1.23, by Mark Lord.
Battery Charge Detect (BCD) Enabled = False
Force Power Enable Signal on CBUS = False
Deactivate Sleep in Battery Charge Mode = False
External Oscillator Enabled = False
External Oscillator Feedback Resistor Enabled = False
CBUS pin allocated to VBUS Sense Mode = False
Load Virtual COM Port (VCP) Drivers = True
Vendor ID (VID) = 0x0403
Product ID (PID) = 0x6015
USB Version = USB16.0
Remote Wakeup by something other than USB = False
Self Powered = False
Maximum Current Supported from USB = 200mA
Pins Pulled Down on USB Suspend = False
Indicate USB Serial Number Available = True
 FT1248
-------
FT1248 Clock Polarity = Active Low
FT1248 Bit Order = MSB to LSB
FT1248 Flow Control Enabled = False
 RS232
-------
Invert TXD = False
Invert RXD = False
Invert RTS = False
Invert CTS = False
Invert DTR = False
Invert DSR = False
Invert DCD = False
Invert RI = False
 RS485
-------
RS485 Echo Suppression Enabled = False
DBUS Drive Strength = 4mA
DBUS Slow Slew Mode = 0
DBUS Schmitt Trigger = 0
CBUS Drive Strength = 4mA
CBUS Slow Slew Mode = 0
CBUS Schmitt Trigger = 0
Manufacturer = NW Digital Radio 03/20
Product = ThumbDV
Serial Number = D307T39M
  I2C
-------
I2C Slave Address = 0
I2C Device ID = 0
I2C Schmitt Triggers Disabled = False
  CBUS
-------
CBUS0 = TXDEN
CBUS1 = RxLED
CBUS2 = TxLED
CBUS3 = SLEEP
CBUS4 = Tristate
CBUS5 = Tristate
CBUS6 = Tristate
No change from existing eeprom contents.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:09 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
OK, in that case follow the instructions for fix_prog and run sudo ./ftx_prog —dump

On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:

So there's nothing I can do to program it here? I am a software developer and used to build Palm Treo smartphones 10 years ago...

Willing to sign a NDA...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:05 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
Send it back anyways. The port detect depends on the EEPROM being programmed correctly.

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
>
> It means the ThumbDV is good. Did both Green/Red LEDs flash?





--
- Dave
  W3DJS


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

OK, in that case follow the instructions for fix_prog and run sudo ./ftx_prog —dump

On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:

So there's nothing I can do to program it here? I am a software developer and used to build Palm Treo smartphones 10 years ago...

Willing to sign a NDA...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:05 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
Send it back anyways. The port detect depends on the EEPROM being programmed correctly.

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
>
> It means the ThumbDV is good. Did both Green/Red LEDs flash?





--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

So there's nothing I can do to program it here? I am a software developer and used to build Palm Treo smartphones 10 years ago...

Willing to sign a NDA...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:05 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
Send it back anyways. The port detect depends on the EEPROM being programmed correctly.

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
>
> It means the ThumbDV is good. Did both Green/Red LEDs flash?





--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Just received ThumbDV and need ThumbTest doesn't see it #thumbdv

 

Send it back anyways. The port detect depends on the EEPROM being programmed correctly.

On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

It means the ThumbDV is good. Did both Green/Red LEDs flash?

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