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Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Patrick Perdue
 

I had problems powering more than one ThumbDV from a PI 3 (not 3 b plus) without a powered hub. This after including max_usb_current in /boot/config.txt, which I believe is no longer relevant with newer boards.

I could use one at a time, but the first wouldn't be recognized anymore when I installed the second. A powered hub fixed this problem. I'm currently using those dongles on an old Mac Mini, which is now running Debian. It works fine on that host without a hub. My XLX reflector is connecting to AMBE remotely. My system gets very little D-Star traffic compared to other modes (mostly Allstar and EchoLink these days, with occasional DMR or YSF), so the transcoders don't have much to do lately. It seems to work fine when it's needed, though.


On 7/3/2021 10:38 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
Bryan  K7UDR  clearly has the superior setup, and is with NW Digital, so I'm going to let him field this one.

My Pi would go into a boot loop with the ThumbDV in its USB port directly, but boots fine with it in a powered hub. Go figure. Maybe not all Pi's have the same power available. Mine's a Pi 3.

I think Bryan probably has better information to give you.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 2:00 PM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi there,
DO you have instdructions on getting that setup on the pi?  I already have a hostname: ambeserver.ddns.org.
Thanks so much,
Justin-1i5os

On Jul 3, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

First suggestion. Is your ThumbDV plugged directly into the Pi? The USB port on a Pi usually doesn't have enough current to run a ThumbDV. If it is, try a powered hub.

I run AMBEserver on my Pi, with a daemon to update the dynamic DNS it points to, with a powered hub for the ThumbDV, and it works great.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 2:28 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094.  However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd.  I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin








Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Gwen Patton
 

Bryan  K7UDR  clearly has the superior setup, and is with NW Digital, so I'm going to let him field this one.

My Pi would go into a boot loop with the ThumbDV in its USB port directly, but boots fine with it in a powered hub. Go figure. Maybe not all Pi's have the same power available. Mine's a Pi 3.

I think Bryan probably has better information to give you.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 2:00 PM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi there,
DO you have instdructions on getting that setup on the pi?  I already have a hostname: ambeserver.ddns.org.
Thanks so much,
Justin-1i5os

On Jul 3, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

First suggestion. Is your ThumbDV plugged directly into the Pi? The USB port on a Pi usually doesn't have enough current to run a ThumbDV. If it is, try a powered hub.

I run AMBEserver on my Pi, with a daemon to update the dynamic DNS it points to, with a powered hub for the ThumbDV, and it works great.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 2:28 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094.  However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd.  I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin








Re: DMR PLUS

Karl Renter
 

That's correct, you use a radio to connect to a dmr repeater.  With bluedv you are using the internet and can only connect to talk group of choice.


On Sat., Jul. 3, 2021, 1:45 p.m. Ernie Gm7kbk, <erniepratt@...> wrote:
You cannot connect to a repeater directly. You will have to find what server it is connected to.  Then link to the server and dial up a talkgroup that the repeater is listening to. 


From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of N5YTT Randy <n5ytt1@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:54:36 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: [ambe] DMR PLUS
 
I am trying to use the Blue DV on DMR +. Have the registration done and don't see anything like local repeaters, but all ISPC-2 links with a state.
I live in Central Texas and see there is an ISPC-2 Texas but it's not in the link. I did all the updates but same listing.
I have tried Phoenix, Minnesota, Illinois, Quadnet and others but don't work well.

Looking for thoughts on how to add a local repeater that maybe DMR if possible in config file, or what is required and 
password if needed for the ISPC-2 Texas to add it to the configure file, or a good repeater that will provide good DMR +
or if need to switch back to DMR but still have the same repeater list.

Maybe reflectors, but don't know anything about them or how to set it up. I enjoy Talk Group 3148 and other local ones here.

Any thoughts or help is appreciated. Randy N5YTT


Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

 

Put in an issue at https://github.com/LX3JL/xlxd/issues  

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 1:36 PM Ernie Gm7kbk <erniepratt@...> wrote:


From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:18:47 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ambe] trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?
 
OK then… where is the best place to get support for Ambed?

On Jul 3, 2021, at 1:49 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Let's be clear, ambed (which is used by lxld reflectors for transcoding) and AMBEserver are two different programs entirely. 

At one time ambed folks advised against the Pi, you will need to check them on current platform support. 



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE / WRJT-215

 


Re: DMR PLUS

 

You cannot connect to a repeater directly. You will have to find what server it is connected to.  Then link to the server and dial up a talkgroup that the repeater is listening to. 


From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of N5YTT Randy <n5ytt1@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:54:36 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: [ambe] DMR PLUS
 
I am trying to use the Blue DV on DMR +. Have the registration done and don't see anything like local repeaters, but all ISPC-2 links with a state.
I live in Central Texas and see there is an ISPC-2 Texas but it's not in the link. I did all the updates but same listing.
I have tried Phoenix, Minnesota, Illinois, Quadnet and others but don't work well.

Looking for thoughts on how to add a local repeater that maybe DMR if possible in config file, or what is required and 
password if needed for the ISPC-2 Texas to add it to the configure file, or a good repeater that will provide good DMR +
or if need to switch back to DMR but still have the same repeater list.

Maybe reflectors, but don't know anything about them or how to set it up. I enjoy Talk Group 3148 and other local ones here.

Any thoughts or help is appreciated. Randy N5YTT


Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

 


From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:18:47 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ambe] trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?
 
OK then… where is the best place to get support for Ambed?

On Jul 3, 2021, at 1:49 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Let's be clear, ambed (which is used by lxld reflectors for transcoding) and AMBEserver are two different programs entirely. 

At one time ambed folks advised against the Pi, you will need to check them on current platform support. 


Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Justin Mann
 

OK then… where is the best place to get support for Ambed?

On Jul 3, 2021, at 1:49 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Let's be clear, ambed (which is used by lxld reflectors for transcoding) and AMBEserver are two different programs entirely. 

At one time ambed folks advised against the Pi, you will need to check them on current platform support. 


DMR PLUS

N5YTT Randy
 

I am trying to use the Blue DV on DMR +. Have the registration done and don't see anything like local repeaters, but all ISPC-2 links with a state.
I live in Central Texas and see there is an ISPC-2 Texas but it's not in the link. I did all the updates but same listing.
I have tried Phoenix, Minnesota, Illinois, Quadnet and others but don't work well.

Looking for thoughts on how to add a local repeater that maybe DMR if possible in config file, or what is required and 
password if needed for the ISPC-2 Texas to add it to the configure file, or a good repeater that will provide good DMR +
or if need to switch back to DMR but still have the same repeater list.

Maybe reflectors, but don't know anything about them or how to set it up. I enjoy Talk Group 3148 and other local ones here.

Any thoughts or help is appreciated. Randy N5YTT


Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

 

Let's be clear, ambed (which is used by lxld reflectors for transcoding) and AMBEserver are two different programs entirely. 

At one time ambed folks advised against the Pi, you will need to check them on current platform support. 


Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Justin Mann
 

Hi there,
DO you have instdructions on getting that setup on the pi?  I already have a hostname: ambeserver.ddns.org.
Thanks so much,
Justin-1i5os

On Jul 3, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

First suggestion. Is your ThumbDV plugged directly into the Pi? The USB port on a Pi usually doesn't have enough current to run a ThumbDV. If it is, try a powered hub.

I run AMBEserver on my Pi, with a daemon to update the dynamic DNS it points to, with a powered hub for the ThumbDV, and it works great.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 2:28 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094.  However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd.  I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin








Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

 

The ThumbDV requires less than 200mA. I power mine on a Pi powered by DRAWS with no issues.

73,
Bryan K7UDR
NW Digital Radio



On Jul 3, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

First suggestion. Is your ThumbDV plugged directly into the Pi? The USB port on a Pi usually doesn't have enough current to run a ThumbDV. If it is, try a powered hub.

I run AMBEserver on my Pi, with a daemon to update the dynamic DNS it points to, with a powered hub for the ThumbDV, and it works great.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 2:28 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094.  However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd.  I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin








Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Gwen Patton
 

First suggestion. Is your ThumbDV plugged directly into the Pi? The USB port on a Pi usually doesn't have enough current to run a ThumbDV. If it is, try a powered hub.

I run AMBEserver on my Pi, with a daemon to update the dynamic DNS it points to, with a powered hub for the ThumbDV, and it works great.

73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 2:28 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094.  However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd.  I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin







Re: trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Justin Mann
 

HI there,
Just wanted to post an update, got the Ambe server working on the pi, but now I’m trying to figure out how to
use these two thumb dvs on my xlx reflector.

On Jul 3, 2021, at 1:28 AM, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094. However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd. I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin






<Ambedcompilation-with-errors.rtfd>


trying to get my THumb-dvs to run on my pi?

Justin Mann
 

FOlks,
I’m trying to get my THumb-dvs to compile and run on my pi so that I can get them to work on my xlx reflector, xlx094. However, I’m getting some errors when I try to run the install script from n5amd. I’ve attached the output in a text file, can y’all take a look?

Thanks,
Justin


installing the FTdio drivers for my THumb DVs?

Justin Mann
 

Folks,
I’m trying to get my THumbDvs working with my Pi4, and I’m working through the instructions on n5amd.com.  Is there a way to install the FTDIO drivers from the command line?  I’m currently using the latest build of Buster on the pi.
Thanks,
Justin


Re: Is Buster still in development?

Justin Mann
 

Thanks so much… It really is a very nice app, it just works… I know how it goes having a day job… lol.

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@gmail.com> wrote:

I have forwarded your message to Anna, the developer. She does maintain Buster, but is very busy with her day job.

73,
Bryan K7UDR

On Jun 27, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

FOlks,
I’m using Buster, on the latest pre-release of Mac OS, and it works well with voiceover which I’m glad to see. There are a few minor issues that I’d love to bring to the author’s attention, but because i work for Apple, my NDA has a big “You can’t contribute to projects in the app store officially” clause that I certainly don’t want to brake. Is there anyway that someone from within this organization might put me in contact with the author via my callsign Ai5os? All contact information is good on Qrz. I know this is a weird request, yes, I know the normal procedure is to raise an issue on Github, it’s the NDA that prohibits me from doing so.
Again The app is wonderful, and really would allow any blind Mac user the chance to jump on D-star. I’d just like to see a couple of buttons that control the linking, and unlinking of reflectors get labeled, and support for All of the us-trust reflectors, xrf, and xlx reflectors, and this app would be set. I appreciate any help anybody can give.
Thanks,
Justinn-ai5os










Re: Is Buster still in development?

 

I have forwarded your message to Anna, the developer. She does maintain Buster, but is very busy with her day job.

73,
Bryan K7UDR

On Jun 27, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

FOlks,
I’m using Buster, on the latest pre-release of Mac OS, and it works well with voiceover which I’m glad to see. There are a few minor issues that I’d love to bring to the author’s attention, but because i work for Apple, my NDA has a big “You can’t contribute to projects in the app store officially” clause that I certainly don’t want to brake. Is there anyway that someone from within this organization might put me in contact with the author via my callsign Ai5os? All contact information is good on Qrz. I know this is a weird request, yes, I know the normal procedure is to raise an issue on Github, it’s the NDA that prohibits me from doing so.
Again The app is wonderful, and really would allow any blind Mac user the chance to jump on D-star. I’d just like to see a couple of buttons that control the linking, and unlinking of reflectors get labeled, and support for All of the us-trust reflectors, xrf, and xlx reflectors, and this app would be set. I appreciate any help anybody can give.
Thanks,
Justinn-ai5os







Re: Is Buster still in development?

Justin Mann
 

The truth is because I do work with accessibility-related stuff, I do have to be careful, we have a decent group of hams that work for Apple, and one of the things I’d love is to have a 
mac-native solution to program some radios, because the mac OS platform does have some native accessibility built right in to the operating system that a dev can take advantage of.  I know how to go through an app, and I know what code needs to be modified to make an app work with voiceover for instance.  Were I to pull the project from github, and then try and modify, and republish the source code, it would go against my NDA… it’s one of the hoops that you pay for for having a job working for a decent company.  I’d love to have the ability to use Android as a blind person, and know that I could pickup any android device and know that the app is accessible, and I hope someday that the operating system gets it.  However, due to Android’s fragmentation, app developers can’t just decide  they’re going to write code in this manner, and voila they have an accessible app.  Because iOS is what it is, you cna publish code using native controls, native calls to APIs, and accessibility, just happens.  That being said I don’t want to get too much in the politics of iOS verses Android in this discussion, but i do appreciate your insight.  

On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:08 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

Reporting bugs isn't contributing as a developer, it's informing the developers that you found something that needs attention.

If they told you otherwise, next time your car makes a funny noise, ask your supervisor if you first need his permission to tell your mechanic about it. I suspect they'll clarify their position to something less stupid.

(Sorry, not an Apple customer, so the Reality Distortion Field has no hold over me. *Grin*)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 12:37 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m using Buster, on the latest pre-release of Mac OS, and it works well with voiceover which I’m glad to see.  There are a few minor issues that I’d love to bring to the author’s attention, but because i work for Apple, my NDA has a big “You can’t contribute to projects in the app store officially” clause that I certainly don’t want to brake.  Is there anyway that someone from within this organization might put me in contact with the author via my callsign Ai5os?  All contact information is good on Qrz.  I know this is a weird request, yes, I know the normal procedure is to raise an issue on Github, it’s the NDA that prohibits me from doing so.
Again The app is wonderful, and really would allow any blind Mac user the chance to jump on D-star.  I’d just like to see a couple of buttons that control the linking, and unlinking of reflectors get labeled, and support for All of the us-trust reflectors, xrf, and xlx reflectors, and this app would be set.  I appreciate any help anybody can give.
Thanks,
Justinn-ai5os









Re: Is Buster still in development?

Gwen Patton
 

Reporting bugs isn't contributing as a developer, it's informing the developers that you found something that needs attention.

If they told you otherwise, next time your car makes a funny noise, ask your supervisor if you first need his permission to tell your mechanic about it. I suspect they'll clarify their position to something less stupid.

(Sorry, not an Apple customer, so the Reality Distortion Field has no hold over me. *Grin*)

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 12:37 AM Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
FOlks,
I’m using Buster, on the latest pre-release of Mac OS, and it works well with voiceover which I’m glad to see.  There are a few minor issues that I’d love to bring to the author’s attention, but because i work for Apple, my NDA has a big “You can’t contribute to projects in the app store officially” clause that I certainly don’t want to brake.  Is there anyway that someone from within this organization might put me in contact with the author via my callsign Ai5os?  All contact information is good on Qrz.  I know this is a weird request, yes, I know the normal procedure is to raise an issue on Github, it’s the NDA that prohibits me from doing so.
Again The app is wonderful, and really would allow any blind Mac user the chance to jump on D-star.  I’d just like to see a couple of buttons that control the linking, and unlinking of reflectors get labeled, and support for All of the us-trust reflectors, xrf, and xlx reflectors, and this app would be set.  I appreciate any help anybody can give.
Thanks,
Justinn-ai5os








Is Buster still in development?

Justin Mann
 

FOlks,
I’m using Buster, on the latest pre-release of Mac OS, and it works well with voiceover which I’m glad to see. There are a few minor issues that I’d love to bring to the author’s attention, but because i work for Apple, my NDA has a big “You can’t contribute to projects in the app store officially” clause that I certainly don’t want to brake. Is there anyway that someone from within this organization might put me in contact with the author via my callsign Ai5os? All contact information is good on Qrz. I know this is a weird request, yes, I know the normal procedure is to raise an issue on Github, it’s the NDA that prohibits me from doing so.
Again The app is wonderful, and really would allow any blind Mac user the chance to jump on D-star. I’d just like to see a couple of buttons that control the linking, and unlinking of reflectors get labeled, and support for All of the us-trust reflectors, xrf, and xlx reflectors, and this app would be set. I appreciate any help anybody can give.
Thanks,
Justinn-ai5os

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