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BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Hi All,

Absolutely not finished yet.. I can make make a QSO on BM with myself now ( private call to 9990 ). There is still a lot to do!!!!! Hope to deploy a working version in the upcoming weeks ( all depending on my private time ).

Keep in mind that this version will be in the garage so only fun to try and play with. See: www.pa7lim.nl/garage 

https://youtu.be/skc_rRACLWo

Greets,
    David PA7LIM 

Re: Ambe connection problem

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

Ok, thanks for the detailed explanation. I know understand the traffic related issues that may arise. 

  Looking at my specific situation I would like to be able to share my AmbeServer with another Ham. Which seems to work fine so far. However I have been aware of his use and when. The problem lies in that when do we know when the server is currently busy? I guess we don't. 

   Ok thanks again and this provides yet another optional use for my ThumbDV!

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:00 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

The AMBEserver has nothing to do with connecting to various protocols, reflectors, etc.  That is all handled by the client software, eg BlueDV.  ThumbDV/AMBEserver only has one function: take in PCM encoded audio and return AMBE or take in AMBE and return PCM encoded audio (to the client).

Again, it is a simple system, it gets a PCM packet from a client and returns an AMBE packet to that client, receives an AMBE packet from a client and returns a PCM packet to that client.   A single AMBE-3000 chip handles a single stream, and having multiple clients would divide that stream up between the clients in an unpredictable way.  The AMBEserver doesn't have multiplexing capability.  If you are asking if you can use the same AMBEserver by different clients at different times, that works just fine -- simultaneous use is going to have problems.

Ambed, by the folks who are doing the XLX reflectors, handles multiplexing multiple streams to multiple AMBE devices on a timeshared basis, that is currently only supported by the XLXd service.

We are contemplating kick-starting a multi-ambe device for such applications as Ambed.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...> wrote:
John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).




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Re: Ambe connection problem

 

The AMBEserver has nothing to do with connecting to various protocols, reflectors, etc.  That is all handled by the client software, eg BlueDV.  ThumbDV/AMBEserver only has one function: take in PCM encoded audio and return AMBE or take in AMBE and return PCM encoded audio (to the client).

Again, it is a simple system, it gets a PCM packet from a client and returns an AMBE packet to that client, receives an AMBE packet from a client and returns a PCM packet to that client.   A single AMBE-3000 chip handles a single stream, and having multiple clients would divide that stream up between the clients in an unpredictable way.  The AMBEserver doesn't have multiplexing capability.  If you are asking if you can use the same AMBEserver by different clients at different times, that works just fine -- simultaneous use is going to have problems.

Ambed, by the folks who are doing the XLX reflectors, handles multiplexing multiple streams to multiple AMBE devices on a timeshared basis, that is currently only supported by the XLXd service.

We are contemplating kick-starting a multi-ambe device for such applications as Ambed.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...> wrote:
John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).




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Re: Ambe connection problem

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).

Re: Ambe connection problem

 

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).

Re: Ambe connection problem

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

Im having problems with Huawei P8 as well, tablet samsung 7" no problems, old chineese Levono phone no probs odd with the Huawei

Re: Ambe connection problem

Paul Menown <pako20@...>
 

Ok I resurrected an old motorola phone and it is working ok, but can't get other 2 items to connect..strange

Ambe connection problem

Paul Menown <pako20@...>
 

I can connect to the server running on my main pc and using a windows laptop running blue dv, but

I have an Huawei android phone running android 7  and small lenovo tablet runnin android 5.0.1 and I can not get either to connect.. Any ideas?

Cheers

Paul

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Re: BlueDV AmbeServer - testing remote Client over the Internet

Pagan, Giorgio
 

Hi David,
My friend Paolo PY2NFT from San Paolo del Brasile are testing BluDV with a Thumdb installed in my windows home PC, in Venice Italia.
It works very well

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2017-11-14 16:11 GMT+01:00 David Smith <KA5DJS@...>:
It should go around the world with no limit on mileage.
The only slow down would be slow networks....lol



Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:59 AM
David;
 
    so far so good...
 
    performed a test from a remote user 1,200 miles away over the internet. I will keep you in the loop as to our progress as we do more testing.

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Re: BlueDV AmbeServer - testing remote Client over the Internet

David Smith
 

It should go around the world with no limit on mileage.
The only slow down would be slow networks....lol



Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:59 AM
David;
 
    so far so good...
 
    performed a test from a remote user 1,200 miles away over the internet. I will keep you in the loop as to our progress as we do more testing.

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BlueDV AmbeServer - testing remote Client over the Internet

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

David;
 
    so far so good...
 
    performed a test from a remote user 1,200 miles away over the internet. I will keep you in the loop as to our progress as we do more testing.

Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

All working thanks looks great. Now if DMR was possible that would be fantastic.Thank you. Looking forward to future updates.
Best George MI0CEO

Re: AMBEserver

 

Hello Chris,

Try this one:

./AMBEserver -i /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 460800

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 14/11/2017 om 05:02 schreef Chris Andrist:

./AMBEserver -i /dev/ttyU0 -s 460800
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AMBEserver

Chris Andrist
 

From the AMBEserver-Addendum I compiled AMBEserver

https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe/wiki/AMBEserver-Addendum#Quick-Build-on-Linux

wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dl5di/OpenDV/master/DummyRepeater/DV3000/AMBEserver.c
gcc -o AMBEserver AMBEserver.c

root@ambeserver:/src/AMBEserver # ./AMBEserver -i /dev/ttyU0 -s 460800
AMBEserver: Starting...

It doesn't go past starting.

When I run AMBEtest3.py I get

root@ambeserver:/src/AMBEserver # python2 AMBEtest3.py -n -s /dev/ttyU0
Setting ...
/dev/ttyU0
d
8
N
1
False
False
False

Reset
6100010033
Wrote: 5 bytes
a9
Product ID
6100010030
Wrote: 5 bytes
a
 0AMBE3000R
Version
6100010031
Wrote: 5 bytes
a11V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208
Set DSTAR Mode
61000c000a013007634000000000000048
Wrote: 17 bytes
a


The stick appears to be working, just can't get the AMBEserver to work.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Chris Andrist, KC7WSU

Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

 

Just go to the play store and update. version 1.0.11 is now available.


Op 14/11/2017 om 01:05 schreef David Smith:

Hey David,

Can you shoot me the link to the new version.


David Smith   KA5DJS


Monday, November 13, 2017 5:19 PM

Only use a callsign, DSTAR is not working with DMR id's.
Make sure you are running on release 11. I upload this version a few hours ago.

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 14/11/2017 om 00:16 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:


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Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

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On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,

It does not support DMR. Only DSTAR.

Greets,

  David PA7LIM


Op 13/11/2017 om 20:02 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 09:39 am, Tom Cichowicz wrote:
How did you change the DMR id? I cant change it on any of my devices (2 samsung tablets 1 huawei phone) thanks for any help

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Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

David Smith
 

Hey David,

Can you shoot me the link to the new version.


David Smith   KA5DJS


Monday, November 13, 2017 5:19 PM

Only use a callsign, DSTAR is not working with DMR id's.
Make sure you are running on release 11. I upload this version a few hours ago.

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 14/11/2017 om 00:16 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:


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Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

 

Only use a callsign, DSTAR is not working with DMR id's.
Make sure you are running on release 11. I upload this version a few hours ago.

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 14/11/2017 om 00:16 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:

I understand its only DStar only but do not have to put in my 2355046 id  or just call sign only.

 

Thanks

 

 

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From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of David PA7LIM <info@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:12:09 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] BlueDV AMBE for Android
 

Hi Tom,

It does not support DMR. Only DSTAR.

Greets,

  David PA7LIM


Op 13/11/2017 om 20:02 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 09:39 am, Tom Cichowicz wrote:
How did you change the DMR id? I cant change it on any of my devices (2 samsung tablets 1 huawei phone) thanks for any help

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Re: BlueDV AMBE for Android

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

I understand its only DStar only but do not have to put in my 2355046 id  or just call sign only.

 

Thanks

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> on behalf of David PA7LIM <info@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:12:09 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] BlueDV AMBE for Android
 

Hi Tom,

It does not support DMR. Only DSTAR.

Greets,

  David PA7LIM


Op 13/11/2017 om 20:02 schreef mi0ceo_geo@...:
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 09:39 am, Tom Cichowicz wrote:
How did you change the DMR id? I cant change it on any of my devices (2 samsung tablets 1 huawei phone) thanks for any help

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Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV AMBE auto start?

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

David;

    YES! You-da-Man!

   I have a friend that is going to be testing my AmbeServer - from Long Island NY. I'm in South West Florida USA.

   I've already poked a hole in my router for port UDP 2460 --

 I've tested from the external address and it seems to work fine!

     longer distance (1,200miles) will be a much better test.

   I'll keep the group in the loop on our results.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:12 PM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,

Sure.. no problem.. Like this?

Please sent me an email so I can sent you a test version. info@...

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 13/11/2017 om 21:54 schreef Tom Cichowicz:
David;

   I have a server that I’m running the BlueDV AmbeServer on - I  reboot from time to time - so I have all the services I run autostart upon coming back up. Is there a way to have the server start by default? Or is the a command line switch I can use to do that?

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