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Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Hi,

Last version for tonight.
Fixes:
- More volume on DMR
- hostname is now 30 chars. Was 20.
- You can change the DMR password now
- Ping between the AMBEServer is extended


Issues:

- 204000 as DMR
- You have to restart the app after setup

http://www.pa7lim.nl/test/AMBE/
File will be removed after 10 minutes. So be quick :-)

Greets,
   David


Op 15/11/2017 om 21:44 schreef k6fed via Groups.Io:

Hi David

I've tested the app with the PIDV server android phone. I changed the DMR ID to mine but when I transmit the DMR ID on the other unit appears as 2040000. The receive audio is fine.



Frank K6FED


From: David PA7LIM <info@...>
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ambe] BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

Hi,
Greets,
   David PA7LIM

Op 15/11/2017 om 20:56 schreef Steven Blackford:
David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:
Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 
Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM

--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM



--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Oeps.. :-)

Can you restart the app please? Think it will reload the value again.

Greets,

    David PA7LIM


Op 15/11/2017 om 21:44 schreef k6fed via Groups.Io:

Hi David

I've tested the app with the PIDV server android phone. I changed the DMR ID to mine but when I transmit the DMR ID on the other unit appears as 2040000. The receive audio is fine.



Frank K6FED


From: David PA7LIM <info@...>
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ambe] BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

Hi,
Greets,
   David PA7LIM

Op 15/11/2017 om 20:56 schreef Steven Blackford:
David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:
Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 
Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM

--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM



--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

k6fed@...
 

Hi David

I've tested the app with the PIDV server android phone. I changed the DMR ID to mine but when I transmit the DMR ID on the other unit appears as 2040000. The receive audio is fine.



Frank K6FED


From: David PA7LIM <info@...>
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ambe] BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

Hi,
Greets,
   David PA7LIM

Op 15/11/2017 om 20:56 schreef Steven Blackford:
David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:
Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 
Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM

--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM


Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

If it is not working.. Please uninstall and use the version from the BETA store.

Greets,

    David


Op 15/11/2017 om 21:08 schreef David PA7LIM:

Hi,

You can download the APK: http://www.pa7lim.nl/test/BlueDV-AMBE-12.apk

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 15/11/2017 om 20:56 schreef Steven Blackford:
David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:

Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 

Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM


--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Hi,

You can download the APK: http://www.pa7lim.nl/test/BlueDV-AMBE-12.apk

Greets,

   David PA7LIM


Op 15/11/2017 om 20:56 schreef Steven Blackford:

David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:

Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 

Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM


--
Greets and 73, David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

Steven Blackford
 

David,
   I can test it on my link system. 

Steve

On Nov 15, 2017 14:53, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:

Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 

Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Hi All,

DMR on BlueDVAMBE for Android is implemented and have buggy version available now. 

Is there someone who can test the volume difference between DMR and DSTAR when sending? The AMBE sound of DMR is over modulated and needs to be tuned.
Please sent me an email so I can sent you an APK file. info@...

Greets,
    David PA7LIM

Re: Ambe connection problem

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

Must give it a try later ,well done. Still i wonder what is causing the problem with connection with the phone. 

Re: Ambe connection problem

Paul Menown <pako20@...>
 

I decided to try the server with the Huawei phone that i could not connect with, but using my noip address via the mobile network rather than my home wifi and it worked flawlessly.  So more head scratching to work out why is it being blocked on my home network but working over my mobile network, must be a firewall problem somewhere on my home wifi.

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

K7FZO
 

Thanks John I'll make that my next round of experiments. 

~ Thom

On Nov 14, 2017, at 4:11 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Thom,

You could put the ThumbDV on your Pi (that is in your shack) with AMBEserver (Linux), forward a port from your Internet connection and use BlueDV Android wherever you roam, as long as you have network.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:36 PM, K7FZO <k7fzo.thom@...> wrote:
David,
Thank you for making your garage project available for all of us to play with.
It is a great piece of software.
I installed the BlueDV AMBRE Server on Win7 that I am running inside a virtual machine on a MacBook with the ThumbDV attached. 
The BlueDV android app is installed and running on an old slow Nexus tablet that seems to handle the process easily. 

I've kept the BlueDV android app attached to REF 029 A and have had several successful QSO's.

Next I'll take it on the road using the WiFi network my truck provides.

Thanks again for allowing us to be involved.

Cheers & 73 de Thom / K7FZO

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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Thom,

You could put the ThumbDV on your Pi (that is in your shack) with AMBEserver (Linux), forward a port from your Internet connection and use BlueDV Android wherever you roam, as long as you have network.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:36 PM, K7FZO <k7fzo.thom@...> wrote:
David,
Thank you for making your garage project available for all of us to play with.
It is a great piece of software.
I installed the BlueDV AMBRE Server on Win7 that I am running inside a virtual machine on a MacBook with the ThumbDV attached. 
The BlueDV android app is installed and running on an old slow Nexus tablet that seems to handle the process easily. 

I've kept the BlueDV android app attached to REF 029 A and have had several successful QSO's.

Next I'll take it on the road using the WiFi network my truck provides.

Thanks again for allowing us to be involved.

Cheers & 73 de Thom / K7FZO

--


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

K7FZO
 

David,
Thank you for making your garage project available for all of us to play with.
It is a great piece of software.
I installed the BlueDV AMBRE Server on Win7 that I am running inside a virtual machine on a MacBook with the ThumbDV attached. 
The BlueDV android app is installed and running on an old slow Nexus tablet that seems to handle the process easily. 

I've kept the BlueDV android app attached to REF 029 A and have had several successful QSO's.

Next I'll take it on the road using the WiFi network my truck provides.

Thanks again for allowing us to be involved.

Cheers & 73 de Thom / K7FZO


On Nov 14, 2017, at 12:36 PM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Absolutely not finished yet.. I can make make a QSO on BM with myself now ( private call to 9990 ). There is still a lot to do!!!!! Hope to deploy a working version in the upcoming weeks ( all depending on my private time ).

Keep in mind that this version will be in the garage so only fun to try and play with. See: www.pa7lim.nl/garage 

https://youtu.be/skc_rRACLWo

Greets,
    David PA7LIM 

Re: AMBEserver

Chris Andrist
 

David,

Thanks for the reply.

This is the output.

root@ambeserver:/src/AMBEserver # ./AMBEserver -i /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 460800
AMBEserver: Starting...
AMBEserver: error when opening /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory

I know that the port is correct because, AMBEtest works.

I am not sure what it is getting hung up on.

Thanks Again.

Chris Andrist, KC7WSU

BlueDV Android AMBE making first DMR QSO with myself :-)

 

Hi All,

Absolutely not finished yet.. I can make make a QSO on BM with myself now ( private call to 9990 ). There is still a lot to do!!!!! Hope to deploy a working version in the upcoming weeks ( all depending on my private time ).

Keep in mind that this version will be in the garage so only fun to try and play with. See: www.pa7lim.nl/garage 

https://youtu.be/skc_rRACLWo

Greets,
    David PA7LIM 

Re: Ambe connection problem

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

Ok, thanks for the detailed explanation. I know understand the traffic related issues that may arise. 

  Looking at my specific situation I would like to be able to share my AmbeServer with another Ham. Which seems to work fine so far. However I have been aware of his use and when. The problem lies in that when do we know when the server is currently busy? I guess we don't. 

   Ok thanks again and this provides yet another optional use for my ThumbDV!

-- 
 
  ☀️ KM4VIG
   🌴 ~TomC.

Sent by pressing a send button. 

On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:00 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

The AMBEserver has nothing to do with connecting to various protocols, reflectors, etc.  That is all handled by the client software, eg BlueDV.  ThumbDV/AMBEserver only has one function: take in PCM encoded audio and return AMBE or take in AMBE and return PCM encoded audio (to the client).

Again, it is a simple system, it gets a PCM packet from a client and returns an AMBE packet to that client, receives an AMBE packet from a client and returns a PCM packet to that client.   A single AMBE-3000 chip handles a single stream, and having multiple clients would divide that stream up between the clients in an unpredictable way.  The AMBEserver doesn't have multiplexing capability.  If you are asking if you can use the same AMBEserver by different clients at different times, that works just fine -- simultaneous use is going to have problems.

Ambed, by the folks who are doing the XLX reflectors, handles multiplexing multiple streams to multiple AMBE devices on a timeshared basis, that is currently only supported by the XLXd service.

We are contemplating kick-starting a multi-ambe device for such applications as Ambed.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...> wrote:
John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

-- 
 
  ☀️ KM4VIG
   🌴 ~TomC.

Sent by pressing a send button. 

On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).




--


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: Ambe connection problem

 

The AMBEserver has nothing to do with connecting to various protocols, reflectors, etc.  That is all handled by the client software, eg BlueDV.  ThumbDV/AMBEserver only has one function: take in PCM encoded audio and return AMBE or take in AMBE and return PCM encoded audio (to the client).

Again, it is a simple system, it gets a PCM packet from a client and returns an AMBE packet to that client, receives an AMBE packet from a client and returns a PCM packet to that client.   A single AMBE-3000 chip handles a single stream, and having multiple clients would divide that stream up between the clients in an unpredictable way.  The AMBEserver doesn't have multiplexing capability.  If you are asking if you can use the same AMBEserver by different clients at different times, that works just fine -- simultaneous use is going to have problems.

Ambed, by the folks who are doing the XLX reflectors, handles multiplexing multiple streams to multiple AMBE devices on a timeshared basis, that is currently only supported by the XLXd service.

We are contemplating kick-starting a multi-ambe device for such applications as Ambed.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...> wrote:
John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

-- 
 
  ☀️ KM4VIG
   🌴 ~TomC.

Sent by pressing a send button. 

On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).




--


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: Ambe connection problem

Tom Cichowicz <tcichowicz@...>
 

John;

   Question... Can there be multiple client connections to the AmbeServer? If so how is it handled, first come first served? Will both clients be able to hear/control connections to different reflectors?

-- 
 
  ☀️ KM4VIG
   🌴 ~TomC.

Sent by pressing a send button. 

On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:28 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).

Re: Ambe connection problem

 

AMBEserver, whether Linux or Windows is a simple thing.  It listens on a know UDP port (usually 2460) at a given IP address and forwards PCM and AMBE packets over that port.  If the server responds properly to requests for one device, but not another, the debugging needs to be on the client setup.

The phone, computer, or tablet must be configured to send to and receive from the given IP address and PORT of the server.  This can be a LAN address (in which case the client must be on the LAN) or a routable Internet address (in which case the client must be on the Internet).

Re: Ambe connection problem

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

Im having problems with Huawei P8 as well, tablet samsung 7" no problems, old chineese Levono phone no probs odd with the Huawei

Re: Ambe connection problem

Paul Menown <pako20@...>
 

Ok I resurrected an old motorola phone and it is working ok, but can't get other 2 items to connect..strange