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Re: ThumbDV and HP Laptop - 17-by3053cl

Clay Welsh
 

No I didn't use the tool because I'd been using this thumb TV for at least 3 years on my Acer laptop and nothing had changed when I plugged it into the new laptop. The factory remains there are no com ports and the thumb DV does require com ports.

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On 2/4/21, 12:35 PM Art Olson <olson339@...> wrote:
Clay

Assume you used the test tool for the thumb dv 


Art
N2AJO 


On Feb 4, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Clay Welsh <cjwelsh@...> wrote:


This is a recent review I did on Amazon: "I have had an Acer laptop that was getting old and I needed a replacement. I ordered a "Renewed" HP 17" Laptop to replace it. The laptop is beautiful and is so easy to type on. Even the keyboard lights up while you are typing. Using the "Plugable USB 2.0 cable, I was able to transfer 60GB of files from the old computer to the new one. This is a terrific product and I am very happy with its purchase.
I am editing this review today, 2/4/2021, because I have run into a problem that was unexpected. I am an Amateur Radio Operator and I use a device called a ThumbDV by Northwest Digital Radio. This looks like any thumb drive with the only exception being that it is transparent. This device requires Serial Ports (1-4). Believe it or not, this computer does not have any Serial Ports. When I checked the Device Manager, there was no indication of any com ports. I spent hours on the phone with HP and went through 3 levels of Tech Support and they couldn't help me either. So in retrospect I say this: "All things being equal, this is a great computer, but if you are a Ham Radio Operator and want to use the ThumbDV, avoid purchasing this model HP Laptop - 17-by3053cl."


Re: ThumbDV and HP Laptop - 17-by3053cl

Art N2AJO
 

Clay

Assume you used the test tool for the thumb dv 


Art
N2AJO 


On Feb 4, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Clay Welsh <cjwelsh@...> wrote:


This is a recent review I did on Amazon: "I have had an Acer laptop that was getting old and I needed a replacement. I ordered a "Renewed" HP 17" Laptop to replace it. The laptop is beautiful and is so easy to type on. Even the keyboard lights up while you are typing. Using the "Plugable USB 2.0 cable, I was able to transfer 60GB of files from the old computer to the new one. This is a terrific product and I am very happy with its purchase.
I am editing this review today, 2/4/2021, because I have run into a problem that was unexpected. I am an Amateur Radio Operator and I use a device called a ThumbDV by Northwest Digital Radio. This looks like any thumb drive with the only exception being that it is transparent. This device requires Serial Ports (1-4). Believe it or not, this computer does not have any Serial Ports. When I checked the Device Manager, there was no indication of any com ports. I spent hours on the phone with HP and went through 3 levels of Tech Support and they couldn't help me either. So in retrospect I say this: "All things being equal, this is a great computer, but if you are a Ham Radio Operator and want to use the ThumbDV, avoid purchasing this model HP Laptop - 17-by3053cl."


Re: After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

Charles Wiant
 

You have to update you password

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 2:52 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

 

After months of proper operation, the DMR mode of BlueDV has quit functioning.  I am using Brandmeister and DMR Master 3102.  I tried 3101, 3102, and 3103 and no connection.
I tried using DMRPLUS and IPSC2-EA1Master.  I get a log in message.  However, no talk group activity.
D-STAR and FUSION modes work properly.

Has anything changed regarding DMR use of BlueDV.

Bob, KN4HH


Re: After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

Greg Speakman
 

You are welcome.  I am glad it worked.

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via groups.io
Sent: January 29, 2021 04:08 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

 

Thanks, Greg.  I set a password and all is good.

 

73, Bob, KN4HH

 

On Friday, January 29, 2021, 3:53:49 PM EST, Greg Speakman <greg225@...> wrote:

 

 

The requirement of BM hotspot password?

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via groups.io
Sent: January 29, 2021 03:52 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

 

After months of proper operation, the DMR mode of BlueDV has quit functioning.  I am using Brandmeister and DMR Master 3102.  I tried 3101, 3102, and 3103 and no connection.
I tried using DMRPLUS and IPSC2-EA1Master.  I get a log in message.  However, no talk group activity.
D-STAR and FUSION modes work properly.

Has anything changed regarding DMR use of BlueDV.

Bob, KN4HH


Re: After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

Bob Watson
 

Thanks, Greg.  I set a password and all is good.

73, Bob, KN4HH

On Friday, January 29, 2021, 3:53:49 PM EST, Greg Speakman <greg225@...> wrote:


The requirement of BM hotspot password?

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via groups.io
Sent: January 29, 2021 03:52 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

 

After months of proper operation, the DMR mode of BlueDV has quit functioning.  I am using Brandmeister and DMR Master 3102.  I tried 3101, 3102, and 3103 and no connection.
I tried using DMRPLUS and IPSC2-EA1Master.  I get a log in message.  However, no talk group activity.
D-STAR and FUSION modes work properly.

Has anything changed regarding DMR use of BlueDV.

Bob, KN4HH


Re: After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

Greg Speakman
 

The requirement of BM hotspot password?

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via groups.io
Sent: January 29, 2021 03:52 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

 

After months of proper operation, the DMR mode of BlueDV has quit functioning.  I am using Brandmeister and DMR Master 3102.  I tried 3101, 3102, and 3103 and no connection.
I tried using DMRPLUS and IPSC2-EA1Master.  I get a log in message.  However, no talk group activity.
D-STAR and FUSION modes work properly.

Has anything changed regarding DMR use of BlueDV.

Bob, KN4HH


After months of normal operation, DMR not functioning using BlueDV

Bob Watson
 

After months of proper operation, the DMR mode of BlueDV has quit functioning.  I am using Brandmeister and DMR Master 3102.  I tried 3101, 3102, and 3103 and no connection.
I tried using DMRPLUS and IPSC2-EA1Master.  I get a log in message.  However, no talk group activity.
D-STAR and FUSION modes work properly.

Has anything changed regarding DMR use of BlueDV.

Bob, KN4HH


Re: ThumbDV my old PiDV did the same

kb8pmy@...
 

It is not registering when you plug it in to USB. Is there anyway around this?


On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 12:58 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Ryan,

It's pretty rare to have either a ThumbDV™ or PiDV™ fail.

Have you run the test program (in files,  the .exe for Windows or the Python program on Linux) and what were the results?

What program are you using with your ThumbDV™?

If it fails the test program, contact sales@...


On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:44 PM <kb8pmy@...> wrote:
Have you ever seen the ThumbDV just quit working? It was working during a converstion. It just quit in midstream. I have tried it on three different computers. It is doing nothing.

My PiDV did the same thing. That is why I ordered a ThumbDV.

Any ideas?

Ryan



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: ThumbDV my old PiDV did the same

 

Ryan,

It's pretty rare to have either a ThumbDV™ or PiDV™ fail.

Have you run the test program (in files,  the .exe for Windows or the Python program on Linux) and what were the results?

What program are you using with your ThumbDV™?

If it fails the test program, contact sales@...


On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:44 PM <kb8pmy@...> wrote:
Have you ever seen the ThumbDV just quit working? It was working during a converstion. It just quit in midstream. I have tried it on three different computers. It is doing nothing.

My PiDV did the same thing. That is why I ordered a ThumbDV.

Any ideas?

Ryan



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


ThumbDV my old PiDV did the same

kb8pmy@...
 

Have you ever seen the ThumbDV just quit working? It was working during a converstion. It just quit in midstream. I have tried it on three different computers. It is doing nothing.

My PiDV did the same thing. That is why I ordered a ThumbDV.

Any ideas?

Ryan


Re: Portable ambe server

Nutters (vk1nut)
 

Thanks guys,
I seem to have all your suggested bases covered at this stage.
I was wondering is this Portable AMBE Server using the same distro of Debian  as NW does?
I don't know enough about identifying linux distros so I have a screen capture of the File structure in the hopes that I can get an idea of the distro and the contents of
Issue.txt:
Raspberry Pi reference 2017-11-29
Generated using pi-gen, https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen, b71bf3179310aadf9aaf2ffcdf094a88e488dce8, stage2

I would appreciate any input that recognises the distro.
The AMBEDConfig.exe sets up the IP address and Ports and the server does work, but it just appears to be intermittent so I am thinking I am mismanaging it somehow.

Thnx in advance
Glenn,vk1nut


Re: Portable ambe server

 

I cannot answer for that specific product, since it is not a NW Digital Radio product like the ThumbDV™

However a couple of data points:
  • The AMBEserver (generic) software is port and IP address agnostic, so you just configure it to run on whatever address and port you want, whether public or private.  (ThumbDV™ install of AMBEserver.)
  • The network protocol is UDP, not TCP, which means it is 'unreliable'.  The packets are not assured of delivery and unacknowledged, so they may get lost if the network circuit has any loss.  (SSH on the other hand uses TCP)
  • The daemon really only supports one simultaneous client, so if you have more than one client running you may get lost packets.
  • Make sure the port you choose is forwarded through the router.


On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 8:31 PM Glenn Taylor VK1NUT <vk1nut@...> wrote:
hi,
I have a portable ambe server
https://reflectorloversclub.jimdofree.com/shop/
and am trying to accertain if moving the default port (2465) to match local ambeservers (2462) would effect the reliability of the connection.
I can connect externally from bluedv ambe for android and bluedv for windows to a static ip address as I don't need dyn dns etc.
Unfortunately the connection seems to be unrealiable at best to others.
The server can be accessed by me anywhere even ssh everytime.
Has anyone had experience with these as I would appreciate your help.
thanks

Glenn vk1nut


--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: Portable ambe server

Frank
 

HI
I've been using the same system for a few years. I can tell you that I have made some soft and hardware changes to the master which improves the latency a little when you are on the go (auto) as a slave.

This does less unpack, so in mine I did this:

1. I modified the various ports to be independent and avoid default access using its internal config in the sd

2. you must have a configuration without automatic dhcp but fixed ip for and in your ambe

3. in any case inform your router with the NAT port you use towards the IP of the ambe (for external access)

4. there is a recent change to be made on the ambe server hardware to improve the latency which then brings it from 230400bd to 460800bd (a simple hardware soldering) and then also mod speed in the soft AMBEs you use

5. Change the SD and port to the new speed and the new soft to download iso for the SD

6. have a fixed IP or use any system dyndns or no-ip or other to reach it even from outside the home on the internet

7. I have activated the SSH app to be able to reboot and turn off and turn on the master again if it crashes

With the DVSWITCH app you don't need an AMBE, as everything is contained via soft.
A single raspberry on the network as a server and the DvSwitch app with its iso on the configured sd, obviously with the NAT configured and fixed ip or dyndns / no-ip for access from outside your home network.

73


Re: Portable ambe server

Gwen Patton
 

I run my AMBEServer on a Raspberry Pi, with the ThumbDV on a powered hub. I have a port forwarded to Dyndns so I can access it from anywhere using my phone or any other internet-connected machine. It's not portable, but it doesn't have to be. I activate it by SSH'ing to the RasPi and bringing up the AMBEServer. Then I leave the session open but minimized. I can use the same computer to run BlueDV, or my Android phone to run BlueDV AMBE. Works great. I use ExtraPuTTY (a fork of PuTTY that has file transfer protocols, and other features) for the access.

If I used it more, I might pop for a static IP for mine as well, but the DynDNS works ok so long as I have a daemon on the RasPi that updates it if my home network's IP changes.

Note that I ONLY run AMBEServer. I don't run Buster or any other programs except the dynamic DNS daemon, which runs in the background and starts on boot. What else might you want to know?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:31 PM Glenn Taylor VK1NUT <vk1nut@...> wrote:
hi,
I have a portable ambe server
https://reflectorloversclub.jimdofree.com/shop/
and am trying to accertain if moving the default port (2465) to match local ambeservers (2462) would effect the reliability of the connection.
I can connect externally from bluedv ambe for android and bluedv for windows to a static ip address as I don't need dyn dns etc.
Unfortunately the connection seems to be unrealiable at best to others.
The server can be accessed by me anywhere even ssh everytime.
Has anyone had experience with these as I would appreciate your help.
thanks

Glenn vk1nut


Portable ambe server

Nutters (vk1nut)
 

hi,
I have a portable ambe server
https://reflectorloversclub.jimdofree.com/shop/
and am trying to accertain if moving the default port (2465) to match local ambeservers (2462) would effect the reliability of the connection.
I can connect externally from bluedv ambe for android and bluedv for windows to a static ip address as I don't need dyn dns etc.
Unfortunately the connection seems to be unrealiable at best to others.
The server can be accessed by me anywhere even ssh everytime.
Has anyone had experience with these as I would appreciate your help.
thanks

Glenn vk1nut


Re: AMBE not detected by Thumb DV

 

Have you run the ThumbTest.exe from https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe/files  ???

The ThumbDV™ appears to the operating system and applications as a simple serial device.  There is no user firmware to be loaded to the ThumbDV™  -- that warning is a 'red herring' that applies to other devices that BlueDV interacts with. 

The driver is simply the FTDI USB drivers (which on Windows should just automatically load and on Linux they are built in).  The serial (COM) port either is there or it isn't. 

If you can talk to the right COM port at the right data rate, using the test program for Windows (or the python scripts for Linux), then the ThumbDV™ is good --  it is then a configuration issue or an application/operating system issue to be debugged.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tim Lawrence <kj4hpg@...> wrote:
Hello all,

I am using Thumb DV with Blue dV version 9572 download.  I have installed everything correctly and am using the correct COM port.  However upon startup Blue DV does not recognize the AMBE software.  I get a firmware not detected error or if I uncheck the thumb DV box in the AMBE section of Blue DV I says connected to zumspot however I have no control over the AMBE setting mic gain, output etc and can hear no audio.  I have updated software and looked for a firmware upgrade for teh thumb DV however have came up empty.  Has anyone else experience this issue?

KJ4HPG
Tim



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: AMBE not detected by Thumb DV

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Tim,

These are my (redacted) settings for BlueDV for Windows.

Where I have filled in "YOURCALL", you should put in your callsign. Where I have filled in "DMR_ID" in three places, you should put in your assigned DMR ID number. I have both a ThumbDV and another (competitor) AMBE USB Dongle. I have the AMBE USB dongle plugged into COM4 -- you should confirm you have the right COM port. Notice I select COM4 under "Serial Port Radio" and also under "AMBE Serial Port" (two places). Depending on how new or old your ThumbDV is, you should either select 230400 baud or 460800 baud.

Are you able to share what your settings look like?



On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:01 AM, Tim Lawrence wrote:
I have tried the different baud rates and it does not seem to have an effect.  The COM ports are correct it usually defaults to COM 6.  Looks like the software is just not communicating with the AMBE chip.  All settings are there just grayed out and can't adjust anything or use PTT function.  When I check the box to use the dongle the COM ports will not connect. When I uncheck it everything connects but just no audio.  It is receiving data.  I was going to install this on my PC and then if I want to connect to PC remotely via desktop would be able to pull up Dstar or DMR.
 
KJ4HPG
TIM

 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: AMBE not detected by Thumb DV

Mike, AA9VI
 

Tim,
Have a look at these 2 links.  I'm wondering if the driver install isn't quite right.  I know these instructions are for the XLX utility, but the driver install is probably identical.  I also used the 1.3.6 driver since the newer 1.4.8 did not work.

I'd try and get the 1.3.6 drivers first.  I got them from the XLXbbs:

make sure you have the build-essential and g++ packages installed

Then follow this to install:

Be sure to also add your username to the device group.  (i.e dialout for debian in the device group)



Mike, AA9VI



Re: AMBE not detected by Thumb DV

Brad N8PC
 

baud rate of the Thumbdv is not a common baud rate it is 460800. try that in the software for the ambe server

On 1/20/2021 11:00 AM, Tim Lawrence wrote:
I have tried the different baud rates and it does not seem to have an effect.  The COM ports are correct it usually defaults to COM 6.  Looks like the software is just not communicating with the AMBE chip.  All settings are there just grayed out and can't adjust anything or use PTT function.  When I check the box to use the dongle the COM ports will not connect. When I uncheck it everything connects but just no audio.  It is receiving data.  I was going to install this on my PC and then if I want to connect to PC remotely via desktop would be able to pull up Dstar or DMR.

KJ4HPG
TIM

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM AB4WS - Jack <Ab4wsnews@...> wrote:
Check your communication speed for the port the ThumbDV is plugged into, early versions of the ThumbDV required slower communication speed while the newer device requires a faster speed.


On Jan 19, 2021, at 16:06, Tim Lawrence <kj4hpg@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I am using Thumb DV with Blue dV version 9572 download.  I have installed everything correctly and am using the correct COM port.  However upon startup Blue DV does not recognize the AMBE software.  I get a firmware not detected error or if I uncheck the thumb DV box in the AMBE section of Blue DV I says connected to zumspot however I have no control over the AMBE setting mic gain, output etc and can hear no audio.  I have updated software and looked for a firmware upgrade for teh thumb DV however have came up empty.  Has anyone else experience this issue?

KJ4HPG
Tim


Re: AMBE not detected by Thumb DV

Tim Lawrence
 

I have tried the different baud rates and it does not seem to have an effect.  The COM ports are correct it usually defaults to COM 6.  Looks like the software is just not communicating with the AMBE chip.  All settings are there just grayed out and can't adjust anything or use PTT function.  When I check the box to use the dongle the COM ports will not connect. When I uncheck it everything connects but just no audio.  It is receiving data.  I was going to install this on my PC and then if I want to connect to PC remotely via desktop would be able to pull up Dstar or DMR.

KJ4HPG
TIM

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM AB4WS - Jack <Ab4wsnews@...> wrote:
Check your communication speed for the port the ThumbDV is plugged into, early versions of the ThumbDV required slower communication speed while the newer device requires a faster speed.


On Jan 19, 2021, at 16:06, Tim Lawrence <kj4hpg@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I am using Thumb DV with Blue dV version 9572 download.  I have installed everything correctly and am using the correct COM port.  However upon startup Blue DV does not recognize the AMBE software.  I get a firmware not detected error or if I uncheck the thumb DV box in the AMBE section of Blue DV I says connected to zumspot however I have no control over the AMBE setting mic gain, output etc and can hear no audio.  I have updated software and looked for a firmware upgrade for teh thumb DV however have came up empty.  Has anyone else experience this issue?

KJ4HPG
Tim

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