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Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

This can certainly be done.  The program is called ambed.  It is part of the xlxd repository, but it can be built and installed completely separately from xlxd.  Good instructions are found in the README within the ambed folder.

Make sure that the internet connection for the ambed server has the lowest latency possible.  You cannot control your ISP, but do everything you can locally.

Used remotely, ambed--like xlxd--will need a static public IP address.  One thing not specifically mentioned in the README is that for a local (to xlxd) install, ambed should listen on the local-link address (127.0.0.1); for a remote (to xlxd) install, ambed should listen on the LAN address of the device running ambed.

All in all, the network considerations for running ambed remotely are a little greater than running both ambed and xlxd locally.  In the end, running both xlxd and ambed on a local server may still give you fewer headaches and better overall performance. 


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

John Ferrari
 

Thanks for the reply. Our gaol is to have Dstar, YSF and DMR on the same XLX module. I believe this link is for setting up a new reflector and transcoder on a local machine. We have an existing XLX reflector on a remote server with DMR and YSF  to be added soon. What I am looking for is information on setting up the local transcoder to receive transcode  and send back to the remote server. I've been told this has been done on a raspberry pi with 2 digital vocoders but can't find and information on the setup.  


On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 02:25 PM, Ryan Matthew Headley wrote:
The absolute quickest and easiest way to get a a transcoding XLX reflector up an running is the N7TAE's new-xlx:  https://github.com/n7tae/new-xlxd

If your goal is to use YSF and DMR, then you need no transcoder.  That is only required for D-Star to either of those modes.

A few cautions when using a Raspberry Pi for the XLX reflector:

1) use a Pi 4.  It will work on the Pi 3B+, but will struggle with too many connections--and the transcoder will have more 'hickups.'
2) In most cases, use an ethernet cable, not. WiFi for the internet connection. (Such a case would be if you do not know the which WiFi standard your router uses, or in any case where your router is provided by your ISP).


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

 

N7TAE has done some great work. 


On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:51 Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:
That should work out fine.  I just mentioned the Pi's because there is are quite few different guides online directing the use of a Pi.

I run two:  one is on a circa 2012 Dell Optiplex connected to Verizon business service in Brooklyn, NY.  The other is running in a Debian virtual machine on my Threadripper-powered desktop/server.  Both run without a hitch.

N7TAE's build is not only easier to build and install, but also has few extra features like DExtra linking.  He has also done a good bit of work cleaning up the code.  It is more stable than the main build, and can run for weeks or months without issue.

One other thing included in Tom's build is the ability to set it up for ipv6 connectivity.  The ability for every device to have its own global address solves a lot of problems with reflectors and hotspots.  I have my reflectors setup for ipv6 connectivity for D-Star, Fusion, and DMR.  The newest builds of DMRGateway and YSFClients have the ability to use ipv6 connections, and well as QnetGateway does for D-Star.


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

That should work out fine.  I just mentioned the Pi's because there is are quite few different guides online directing the use of a Pi.

I run two:  one is on a circa 2012 Dell Optiplex connected to Verizon business service in Brooklyn, NY.  The other is running in a Debian virtual machine on my Threadripper-powered desktop/server.  Both run without a hitch.

N7TAE's build is not only easier to build and install, but also has few extra features like DExtra linking.  He has also done a good bit of work cleaning up the code.  It is more stable than the main build, and can run for weeks or months without issue.

One other thing included in Tom's build is the ability to set it up for ipv6 connectivity.  The ability for every device to have its own global address solves a lot of problems with reflectors and hotspots.  I have my reflectors setup for ipv6 connectivity for D-Star, Fusion, and DMR.  The newest builds of DMRGateway and YSFClients have the ability to use ipv6 connections, and well as QnetGateway does for D-Star.


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Kenny Richards
 

Ryan,

Thank you for the recommendation on which XLXd reflector source tree to us, I found a bunch of them on GitHub and it isn't clear which is the 'right' one.

I personally was going to run this on a real computer in my home lab, which is connected with business class broadband, for our area. I can see how a Pi would struggle with the large IO needs of shuffling packets between the networks.

73,
Kenny


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

The absolute quickest and easiest way to get a a transcoding XLX reflector up an running is the N7TAE's new-xlx:  https://github.com/n7tae/new-xlxd

If your goal is to use YSF and DMR, then you need no transcoder.  That is only required for D-Star to either of those modes.

A few cautions when using a Raspberry Pi for the XLX reflector:

1) use a Pi 4.  It will work on the Pi 3B+, but will struggle with too many connections--and the transcoder will have more 'hickups.'
2) In most cases, use an ethernet cable, not. WiFi for the internet connection. (Such a case would be if you do not know the which WiFi standard your router uses, or in any case where your router is provided by your ISP).


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Kenny Richards
 

John,

I came up with better Google search terms and found this nice description. https://ww8tf.club/building-a-transcoding-xlxd-pi/

I haven't tried it yet, but a quick scan suggests it will lead me in the right direction.

73,
Kenny


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

John Ferrari
 

That was my understanding but I'm looking to bridge the Dstar to the DMR/Fusion side. I'm just having a hard time finding information on software and configuration to use with the ThumbDVs.


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

 

DMR and Fusion HR use the same AMBE vocoder mode, so the reflector only needs to handle the digital wrappers and network transit. 


On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 10:40 Brett <zl2aus@...> wrote:

The latest version XLXd is a DMR / Fusion system and doesn't need any trans-coding .. trans-coding is needed for Dstar connections .. my XLX has trans-coding but I can listen to DMR transmissions on my fusion radio connected to my XLX reflector .. I may be wrong but it works for me ...

Regards
Brett ZL2AUS


At 07:01 am 8/01/2021, you wrote:
I'm try to find information on setting up transcoding between an XLX reflector, DMR and fusion. It is my understanding that DMR and fusion will be setup on the same remote server remotely . I also understand that the DMR/Fusion systems need transcoding to talk with the XLX reflector. 2 thumbDV modules are on the way. Can somebody point me in a direction to setting up the transcoding on a raspberry pi locally?  What software is required? Are there any good links with instructions?

Thanks,
John


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Brett
 


The latest version XLXd is a DMR / Fusion system and doesn't need any trans-coding .. trans-coding is needed for Dstar connections .. my XLX has trans-coding but I can listen to DMR transmissions on my fusion radio connected to my XLX reflector .. I may be wrong but it works for me ...

Regards
Brett ZL2AUS


At 07:01 am 8/01/2021, you wrote:
I'm try to find information on setting up transcoding between an XLX reflector, DMR and fusion. It is my understanding that DMR and fusion will be setup on the same remote server remotely . I also understand that the DMR/Fusion systems need transcoding to talk with the XLX reflector. 2 thumbDV modules are on the way. Can somebody point me in a direction to setting up the transcoding on a raspberry pi locally?  What software is required? Are there any good links with instructions?

Thanks,
John


Re: DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

Kenny Richards
 

Please include the pointers here, I'm also curious in setting something similar up.

73,
Kenny


DMR XLX Fusion Linking #thumbdv

John Ferrari
 

I'm try to find information on setting up transcoding between an XLX reflector, DMR and fusion. It is my understanding that DMR and fusion will be setup on the same remote server remotely . I also understand that the DMR/Fusion systems need transcoding to talk with the XLX reflector. 2 thumbDV modules are on the way. Can somebody point me in a direction to setting up the transcoding on a raspberry pi locally?  What software is required? Are there any good links with instructions? 

Thanks,
John


Re: BlueDV Windows not logging DMR #bluedv

Dionisis “Dennis” Drakopoulos
 

Thanks everybody!
Root cause found. SYSOP of GR 2021 Master Node helped me teoublehoot. Root cause was the setting of FREQUENCY field in BlueDV setup. Being a non true RF Hotspot I was using all zero frequency, worked since summer but not any more. Now I have to input a mockup frequency for BM to accept my login!
Of course you do have to setup in BM the Hotspot Security and use this password as DMR Master node password.

73 es HNY to all!


Re: BlueDV Windows not logging DMR #bluedv

Gwen Patton
 

Dennis, did you actually go to the Brandmeister site, create an account for yourself, and set the password? You do that in the Self-Care section of the site. If you only put some random password in BlueDV, it's not going to work. You have to be matching a password you created for yourself on Brandmeister.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,Gwen, NG3P


On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 7:05 AM Dionisis “Dennis” Drakopoulos <sv1cdn@...> wrote:
Unfortunatelly, 12h after and still not able to login. Emailed David ABT this issue.

73 es HNY all! Stay safe!
Dennis.


Re: BlueDV Windows not logging DMR #bluedv

Dionisis “Dennis” Drakopoulos
 

Unfortunatelly, 12h after and still not able to login. Emailed David ABT this issue.

73 es HNY all! Stay safe!
Dennis.


Re: ThumbDV & BlueDV

Dave Hayes
 

Fixed! The PC was assigning COM3. I changed it in Device Manager to COM4, and it seems to work.

There must be something to do with COM3 that prevents it being assigned to this.

Thanks to all.

Dave.

On 2020-12-26 8:53 p.m., Dave Hayes via groups.io wrote:
Greetings all,

I've had the above combination working for some time now on Win 10; both on my desktop and my laptop. My desktop was running 32 bit win 10, and my laptop was on 64 bit win 10.

I have just changed my desktop over to 64 bit win 10. I have reinstalled BlueDV, but I cannot get my ThumbDV to work with it.

It appears to not recognize the Com port; i.e. I see the Com port added when I plug in the ThumbDV but BlueDV cannot open the Com port.

I have the same setup on both PCs. The ThumbDV and BlueDV see each other on the laptop, but not the Desktop. The only difference is the date on the FTDI driver. It is 8/26/2014 (version 2.12.0.0) on the laptop, and 2017-08-16 (version 2.12.28.0) on the desktop.

Is there something I am overlooking?

Dave Hayes - VE3JX





thumbtest results

Dave Hayes
 

I tried the ThumbTest. The results are below:

9

0AMBE3000R

1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208

I'm guessing that, since it came back with "AMBE300R" that the computer is seeing the ThumbDV. That means that there is something between BlueDV and the COM port?

Dave.


ThumbDV & BlueDV

Dave Hayes
 

Greetings all,

I've had the above combination working for some time now on Win 10; both on my desktop and my laptop. My desktop was running 32 bit win 10, and my laptop was on 64 bit win 10.

I have just changed my desktop over to 64 bit win 10. I have reinstalled BlueDV, but I cannot get my ThumbDV to work with it.

It appears to not recognize the Com port; i.e. I see the Com port added when I plug in the ThumbDV but BlueDV cannot open the Com port.

I have the same setup on both PCs. The ThumbDV and BlueDV see each other on the laptop, but not the Desktop. The only difference is the date on the FTDI driver. It is 8/26/2014 (version 2.12.0.0) on the laptop, and 2017-08-16 (version 2.12.28.0) on the desktop.

Is there something I am overlooking?

Dave Hayes - VE3JX


Re: BlueDV Windows not logging DMR #bluedv

Dionisis “Dennis” Drakopoulos
 

Thank you both!
I found the following and acted accordingly, yet still can't connect - even to USA Masters. Will give it some time in case this password change takes a while to propagate.
https://news.brandmeister.network/hotspot-security-password-now-required-for-connections-to-us-masters/

73!


Re: BlueDV Windows not logging DMR #bluedv

Wayne Lewis
 

SV1CDN, Dennis. In your BlueDV , change the BM password to your own BM password. It happen to me also. KB3WCV, Wayne

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