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Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

S. Wilk
 

Ms. Patten , thank you for the screen shot . But I cannot find anything remotely similar  in My folders ..  File management  is an area I am deficient in computers . I do not know How i got the bluedv to run at this point .


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

Gwen Patton
 

S. Wilk, here's a screen shot of my .\Documents\BlueDV folder, with arrows to what to do. Please note that there are NO SPACES in that path. It's "BlueDV", not "Blue DV", and you open that folder in the FILE EXPLORER, not the browser. To open the file in Notepad, right-click on the file name and choose "Open With...". It'll give you a list of programs to open it with, and one should be Notepad. Left click that, and I think you click the OK button at the bottom of that popup. (Or double-left-click Notepad) That should open the file in Notepad.

The rest of the instructions should be fairly clear.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:02 PM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
These instructions  calls for " navigating to .\Documents\blue Dv .. and that takes me to  the T.G.I.F  forum page  which is not I think where  you wanted to send me ..  I do not know  how to Open HBLink.txt.example   in Note pad .. as a matter of fact .. I do not see  NotePad  on my windows 10 laptop which I am  using for this .. .. I guess if I could  Open  HB link .... in Notebook I would see several lines of code ..  More information Please . 


Re: I want a refund !

Gwen Patton
 

Kevin's 99.9% correct. One thing that may be giving you issues is that there isn't an HBLink.txt file when you first install. Instead, there's a file named HBLink.txt.example. You need to make a copy of that file and remove the .example from the end so it's just named HBLink.txt. Then open that file in Notepad and edit it as the documentation says. I also gave some more details above.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM kevin via groups.io <kevin=prometheusinc.net@groups.io> wrote:
Click on file explorer on the bar at the bottom of your screen, click on Documents link on the left side.  You will see the BlueDV folder.  Double click that one.  Now you will see your HB file that needs to be edited.  If you press the Windows key and the press the letter R the run box comes up.  Type notepad and then press enter.  You should be able to the click on File and open and navigate to the Documents\BlueDV folder and select the HB file.  Make changes and then click on File, then save as, and type the name of the file per the instructions.  You have now added TGIF to your DMR+ list.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:52 AM -0500, ""S. Wilk"" <nk9a@...> wrote:

 How did you get T.G.I.F ?   KD5TJG  put together a way to do this . But I can not understand it .  " navigate to documents blue dv " just sends me to a PA7LIM site .. and I have no idea  how to open HBLink.txt in Notepad , / wordpad .. 


Re: I want a refund !

Gwen Patton
 

That's the PATH. Documents/BlueDV. Go to your Documents folder. There's a BlueDV folder under it. Navigate to that folder. You'll see the HBLink.txt.example file. Make a copy of it named HBLink.txt and open it in your editor. (.\Documents\BlueDV is what the documentation says to navigate to. The period and back-slashes MATTER. That's how you navigate to it. You put .\Documents\BlueDV into the path bar in Windows Explorer.

I added the line "TGIF-Network,tgif.network,passw0rd,62031" at the bottom (without the quote marks, of course!), then it was available as a chooseable network.
The document says use "TGIF, 74.91.125.81, passw0rd, 62031". That's functionally identical with what I used, "tgif.network" just translates to "74.91.125.81".

From there, the documentation on adding TGIF to BlueDV Windows is pretty straightforward.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:47 PM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
 How did you get T.G.I.F ?   KD5TJG  put together a way to do this . But I can not understand it .  " navigate to documents blue dv " just sends me to a PA7LIM site .. and I have no idea  how to open HBLink.txt in Notepad , / wordpad .. 


Re: I want a refund !

kevin@...
 

Click on file explorer on the bar at the bottom of your screen, click on Documents link on the left side.  You will see the BlueDV folder.  Double click that one.  Now you will see your HB file that needs to be edited.  If you press the Windows key and the press the letter R the run box comes up.  Type notepad and then press enter.  You should be able to the click on File and open and navigate to the Documents\BlueDV folder and select the HB file.  Make changes and then click on File, then save as, and type the name of the file per the instructions.  You have now added TGIF to your DMR+ list.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:52 AM -0500, ""S. Wilk"" <nk9a@...> wrote:

 How did you get T.G.I.F ?   KD5TJG  put together a way to do this . But I can not understand it .  " navigate to documents blue dv " just sends me to a PA7LIM site .. and I have no idea  how to open HBLink.txt in Notepad , / wordpad .. 


Re: I want a refund !

S. Wilk
 

 How did you get T.G.I.F ?   KD5TJG  put together a way to do this . But I can not understand it .  " navigate to documents blue dv " just sends me to a PA7LIM site .. and I have no idea  how to open HBLink.txt in Notepad , / wordpad ..


Re: I want a refund !

Gwen Patton
 

I have AMBEServer running on a RasPi, with the ThumbDV on a powered hub. I have a daemon loaded to reset my dynamic DNS pointers if my IP address changes. I use this on the go with two devices so far, a Samsung Galaxy 10+ phone, and an Inrico T320 phone with PTT. If I'm at a computer somewhere, I can use the Windows version of BlueDV to connect from anywhere via dynamic DNS. I bounce back and forth as the mood takes me from Brandmeister to TGIF -- Brandmeister seems really snooty and doesn't seem to like people using their network, and pretty much wrecked The Guild by changing their connection rules. But TGIF is awfully sparse on people to talk to a lot of the time. So I spend a lot of my time on DStar instead, where it's very useful. I have a Kenwood TH-D74 handheld, but the local D-Star repeater is at the area EOC, and they don't appear to like it when you link to another reflector. I tried once, and within a couple of minutes it got switched back. So I assume they either have it set to switch REALLY quickly, or an admin on the repeater didn't like that I'd changed it and put it back.

I didn't know that the BlueDV AMBE Android app had a way to handle editing or adding hosts...but I haven't needed it, as I generally just talk on what's already supported. BlueDV is a wonderful contribution to the digital amateur radio community by David, and I have just GALLONS of appreciation for his efforts.

Would I LIKE it if ThumbDV was more "turnkey"? Sure. It'd save me some time and skull-sweat. Same goes for DRAWS. These are hobbyist products, not consumer products. 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:54 AM Brent LeFevre <brent.lefevre@...> wrote:
I've used it on my droid phone, ot works amazing well.

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 11:52 Patrick Perdue <patrick@...> wrote:

Same. I have a bunch of ThumbDV's, some of which I'm using for XLX transcoders, others for DMR to Allstar bridges. I keep one connected to a Raspberry Pi for general use with BlueDV wherever I am. However, I don't have an Android phone, and it doesn't appear that the iOS version of BlueDV supports audio, just modem/control of compatible radios, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, I've had no problems with the several ThumbDV's I own. I've never tried DMRPlus, but have had success with both TGIF and Brandmeister, as well as DSTAR with BlueDV on Windows.

On 5/4/2020 11:05 AM, kevin via groups.io wrote:

I don't have to carry the thumbdv with me.  I can access it over the internet from my Android phone or my laptop.  So it is very convenient.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM -0500, ""Dave Slotter, W3DJS"" <slotter@...> wrote:

What does running BlueDV with the AMBE server bring you versus running BlueDV without?

73,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM kevin via groups.io <kevin=prometheusinc.net@groups.io> wrote:
I love my thumbdv, just wish the bluedv ambe server would support multiple users on different talkgroups.  But it works beautifully.

Kevin KS0EGL




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:24 AM -0500, "Bryan Hoyer" <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

We do not write or support the SW, which is offered for free from dedicated Hams and supported by the community via our forums.

The ThumbDV has a 30 day money back guarantee.

For a refund, send it to:

NW Digital Radio
RMA<order#>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On May 4, 2020, at 7:02 AM, S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: I want a refund !

S. Wilk
 

 How did you get T.G.I.F ?   KD5TJG  put together a way to do this . But I can not understand it .  " navigate to documents blue dv " just sends me to a PA7LIM site .. and I have no idea  how to open HBLink.txt in Notepad , / wordpad .. 


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

Rick
 

Thanks, John.

Regards,

Rick

K 7 R I X

Remember the Golden Rule:
The guy with all the gold makes the rules.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:42 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
To use it to monitor traffic, none.  

To use it to transmit out repeaters over the network, a Technician License should be sufficient.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:40 AM Rick <rix.dryheat@...> wrote:
Hi folks,

Can someone tell me what grade of license you need to use this device?  Thanks.

Regards,

Rick

K 7 R I X






--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: I want a refund !

Brent LeFevre
 

I've used it on my droid phone, ot works amazing well.


On Mon, May 4, 2020, 11:52 Patrick Perdue <patrick@...> wrote:

Same. I have a bunch of ThumbDV's, some of which I'm using for XLX transcoders, others for DMR to Allstar bridges. I keep one connected to a Raspberry Pi for general use with BlueDV wherever I am. However, I don't have an Android phone, and it doesn't appear that the iOS version of BlueDV supports audio, just modem/control of compatible radios, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, I've had no problems with the several ThumbDV's I own. I've never tried DMRPlus, but have had success with both TGIF and Brandmeister, as well as DSTAR with BlueDV on Windows.

On 5/4/2020 11:05 AM, kevin via groups.io wrote:

I don't have to carry the thumbdv with me.  I can access it over the internet from my Android phone or my laptop.  So it is very convenient.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM -0500, ""Dave Slotter, W3DJS"" <slotter@...> wrote:

What does running BlueDV with the AMBE server bring you versus running BlueDV without?

73,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM kevin via groups.io <kevin=prometheusinc.net@groups.io> wrote:
I love my thumbdv, just wish the bluedv ambe server would support multiple users on different talkgroups.  But it works beautifully.

Kevin KS0EGL




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:24 AM -0500, "Bryan Hoyer" <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

We do not write or support the SW, which is offered for free from dedicated Hams and supported by the community via our forums.

The ThumbDV has a 30 day money back guarantee.

For a refund, send it to:

NW Digital Radio
RMA<order#>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On May 4, 2020, at 7:02 AM, S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

S. Wilk
 

 .. An HF radio , some coax and wire for a dipole  was way easier to figure out than this network computer stuff ... Heck we had study guides for the ham tests , and Get on the air  books  for getting a station set-up .  This  stuff just seems way harder .. I was never that good at computers  Just  finished with my formal education  a couple years before the computer revolution  Hit . 


Re: I want a refund !

Patrick Perdue
 

Same. I have a bunch of ThumbDV's, some of which I'm using for XLX transcoders, others for DMR to Allstar bridges. I keep one connected to a Raspberry Pi for general use with BlueDV wherever I am. However, I don't have an Android phone, and it doesn't appear that the iOS version of BlueDV supports audio, just modem/control of compatible radios, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, I've had no problems with the several ThumbDV's I own. I've never tried DMRPlus, but have had success with both TGIF and Brandmeister, as well as DSTAR with BlueDV on Windows.

On 5/4/2020 11:05 AM, kevin via groups.io wrote:

I don't have to carry the thumbdv with me.  I can access it over the internet from my Android phone or my laptop.  So it is very convenient.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM -0500, ""Dave Slotter, W3DJS"" <slotter@...> wrote:

What does running BlueDV with the AMBE server bring you versus running BlueDV without?

73,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM kevin via groups.io <kevin=prometheusinc.net@groups.io> wrote:
I love my thumbdv, just wish the bluedv ambe server would support multiple users on different talkgroups.  But it works beautifully.

Kevin KS0EGL




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:24 AM -0500, "Bryan Hoyer" <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

We do not write or support the SW, which is offered for free from dedicated Hams and supported by the community via our forums.

The ThumbDV has a 30 day money back guarantee.

For a refund, send it to:

NW Digital Radio
RMA<order#>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On May 4, 2020, at 7:02 AM, S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: I want a refund !

S. Wilk
 

 I finally met with some success on D Star ..  .. So I am not returning the unit .. However , as I have said  elsewhere  IF  someone  had  taken the time to  include a " template " of values   to get one started  Things would have gone a lot smoother . 


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

 

To use it to monitor traffic, none.  

To use it to transmit out repeaters over the network, a Technician License should be sufficient.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:40 AM Rick <rix.dryheat@...> wrote:
Hi folks,

Can someone tell me what grade of license you need to use this device?  Thanks.

Regards,

Rick

K 7 R I X






--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: Absolute beginner Thumb-dv

Rick
 

Hi folks,

Can someone tell me what grade of license you need to use this device?  Thanks.

Regards,

Rick

K 7 R I X





Re: I want a refund !

kevin@...
 

I can't wait to try it out.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:05 AM -0500, "David PA7LIM" <info@...> wrote:

I hope to deploy a new Windows version with a very nice addition for AMBE in about two weeks.

 

 

Greets and 73,

    David PA7LIM

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nomis Bayan Jr. via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 17:02
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] I want a refund !

 

FYI Only - I had mine for over two years with no issue. I bought another two in about 6 months ago for the another server and works fine.

On 5/4/2020 7:42 AM, Lou Fisher wrote:

Have had mine for nearly four years works great with BlueDV on Dstar and DMR  love it



On May 4, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Brent LeFevre <brent.lefevre@...> wrote:



Well said John, 

 

I've had my ThumbDV for well over two years and love it!!!

 

 


Brent LeFevre

.-- ....- -.-. .... ..-.

 

 

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Contact sales@... to return.

 

The ThumbDV™ is sold as bare hardware and, as is stated on the website, software and software support are from the authors of such software. 

 

You have a satisfaction guarantee and by contacting sales can return it for a refund. 

 

Or you can spend a little time asking other users how to overcome your operational problems. 

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 07:02 S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 


Re: I want a refund !

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Perhaps you can turn your unpleasurable experience into something positive by creating a HOWTO of how you overcame your hurdles, or even a YouTube video HOWTO? Just a thought, because you do seem to be passionate about this and how else better to turn lemons into lemonade?

73,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:08 AM S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:
 Well I   gave the DMR side of this thing a rest ..  And tried D star  where I immediately  got some success .  Heck I even came across some familiar  call signs and voices ..  my apologies ..  But  if Some one had even supplied a rudimentary template  of values  with this thing , it would have been a better confidence booster .  


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: I want a refund !

S. Wilk
 

 Well I   gave the DMR side of this thing a rest ..  And tried D star  where I immediately  got some success .  Heck I even came across some familiar  call signs and voices ..  my apologies ..  But  if Some one had even supplied a rudimentary template  of values  with this thing , it would have been a better confidence booster .  


Re: I want a refund !

kevin@...
 

I don't have to carry the thumbdv with me.  I can access it over the internet from my Android phone or my laptop.  So it is very convenient.




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM -0500, ""Dave Slotter, W3DJS"" <slotter@...> wrote:

What does running BlueDV with the AMBE server bring you versus running BlueDV without?

73,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM kevin via groups.io <kevin=prometheusinc.net@groups.io> wrote:
I love my thumbdv, just wish the bluedv ambe server would support multiple users on different talkgroups.  But it works beautifully.

Kevin KS0EGL




On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:24 AM -0500, "Bryan Hoyer" <bhhoyer@...> wrote:

We do not write or support the SW, which is offered for free from dedicated Hams and supported by the community via our forums.

The ThumbDV has a 30 day money back guarantee.

For a refund, send it to:

NW Digital Radio
RMA<order#>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On May 4, 2020, at 7:02 AM, S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 


--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: I want a refund !

 

I hope to deploy a new Windows version with a very nice addition for AMBE in about two weeks.

 

 

Greets and 73,

    David PA7LIM

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nomis Bayan Jr. via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 17:02
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] I want a refund !

 

FYI Only - I had mine for over two years with no issue. I bought another two in about 6 months ago for the another server and works fine.

On 5/4/2020 7:42 AM, Lou Fisher wrote:

Have had mine for nearly four years works great with BlueDV on Dstar and DMR  love it



On May 4, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Brent LeFevre <brent.lefevre@...> wrote:



Well said John, 

 

I've had my ThumbDV for well over two years and love it!!!

 

 


Brent LeFevre

.-- ....- -.-. .... ..-.

 

 

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

Contact sales@... to return.

 

The ThumbDV™ is sold as bare hardware and, as is stated on the website, software and software support are from the authors of such software. 

 

You have a satisfaction guarantee and by contacting sales can return it for a refund. 

 

Or you can spend a little time asking other users how to overcome your operational problems. 

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 07:02 S. Wilk <nk9a@...> wrote:

 I can not believe how Gosh Darn tough  this thing is to set-up . I got it working   on DMR plus using  Blue DV  program  but I can not  get it set for T.G.I.F .  network , can not log in to brandmeister .  This product support  or lack of it  is like being dropped into a dessert with no resources at all . Do I send it right back to you ? 

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