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BlueDV data display question

Bob Watson
 

I have D-STAR and DMR working on BlueDV.  However I have a question.  When I transmit on DMR, I do not see any of my data displayed (Call, Name, etc).  The only thing displayed is my DMR number.  Most stations do not see my data either.  However, one station in the US said he saw all my data.  My setup is exactly what has been specified by others on this group.  Is this possibly a database update issue.  I have only been registered on DMR for three days.

Thanks for any comments.

73, Bob, KN4HH


Re: Fw: Bluedv not recognizing Thumbdv

pikam@...
 

I had a similar problem and I had to set the speed of com3 to match the data speed of the dongle!!

 

 

Peter Moore ZL2HM

 

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Watson via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2020 2:16 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] Fw: Bluedv not recognizing Thumbdv

 



Sorry for the redundant posting.  I thought I would supply a bit more information than previous posts.  The screenshots are of my Bluedv and Device Manager settings.  I hope this will spark some suggestions on the problem.  As in other posts, I have the Thumbdv installed as COM3 and Thumbdv set accordingly.  When I toggle the Serial button on Bluedv, the Thumbdv green led flashes continuously for about three seconds and extinguishes.  The Bluedv panel shows Firmware Not Detected.  I tried running ThumbTest.exe.  I set the COM port and Baud rate and hit Enter and the pc returns to the home screen before display any results.

 

I would appreciate any suggestions on a remedy.

73, bob, KN4HH

 

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Re: Fw: Bluedv not recognizing Thumbdv

Bob Watson
 

My apologies for the previous post.  Dual posts with dual images really gum up the bandwidth.  I did discover that I had the wrong baud rate set for my Thumbdv.  I thought I had an earlier unit and I actually have a 3000R Chip.  I increased the baud rate and now I have good results with D-STAR.
  
Thanks for your patience.

73,  Bob, KN4HH 


On Feb 17, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Bob Watson via Groups.Io <kn4hhptc@...> wrote:



Sorry for the redundant posting.  I thought I would supply a bit more information than previous posts.  The screenshots are of my Bluedv and Device Manager settings.  I hope this will spark some suggestions on the problem.  As in other posts, I have the Thumbdv installed as COM3 and Thumbdv set accordingly.  When I toggle the Serial button on Bluedv, the Thumbdv green led flashes continuously for about three seconds and extinguishes.  The Bluedv panel shows Firmware Not Detected.  I tried running ThumbTest.exe.  I set the COM port and Baud rate and hit Enter and the pc returns to the home screen before display any results.

I would appreciate any suggestions on a remedy.
73, bob, KN4HH

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Fw: Bluedv not recognizing Thumbdv

Bob Watson
 


Sorry for the redundant posting.  I thought I would supply a bit more information than previous posts.  The screenshots are of my Bluedv and Device Manager settings.  I hope this will spark some suggestions on the problem.  As in other posts, I have the Thumbdv installed as COM3 and Thumbdv set accordingly.  When I toggle the Serial button on Bluedv, the Thumbdv green led flashes continuously for about three seconds and extinguishes.  The Bluedv panel shows Firmware Not Detected.  I tried running ThumbTest.exe.  I set the COM port and Baud rate and hit Enter and the pc returns to the home screen before display any results.

I would appreciate any suggestions on a remedy.
73, bob, KN4HH

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Re: Differentiating the two Versions of the Thumbdv by inspection

 

Hi Jay,

The very first units did not have the FCC Sticker on the back. They are all 230k4 Baud

Units ordered after July 9th 2015 are 460k8 baud

There have been a number of small tweaks to the board over the years with no change in operability.

The best way to confirm the baud rate is to try it.

Cheers,
Bryan K7UDR


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Gwen Patton
 

I have my ThumbDV on a powered USB hub connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 running AMBEserver. I got a dynamic DNS connection for it, and I can access it from anywhere using BlueDV (Windows and Android). Handier than carrying a radio to reach repeaters that might not have the talkgroups or reflectors I want to talk on.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 9:29 AM Michael Mandell <mikemandell@...> wrote:

I think you may have confused "Blue DV" ---the software package that drives a dongle and is pretty new to the older, original DV Dongle (not the ThumbDV) that is colored blue. The DV Dongle was the Internet Labs thing, same company that made the DVAP (Dongle with a radio in it and is red). The ThumbDV (what I use) is more similar to the newer dongle Internet Labs came out with, I assume because NW Digital Radio and their products were much cheaper and did much more (with a better AMBE chip). I used WinDV with my ThumbDV when I first got it. It's fine. However, Blue DV is alot nicer and also can do DMR if you have an actual THumbDV (you need the better AMBE chip). 
I prefer using a radio, but there are times (such as last week in Arizona) where I can't use DStar over a regular radio and repeater (only brought an ID51 and was too far from both Phoenix repeaters) so ThumbDV and Blue DV software allowed me to participate in our weekly D-Star/D-Rats training net. 


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Michael Mandell
 

I think you may have confused "Blue DV" ---the software package that drives a dongle and is pretty new to the older, original DV Dongle (not the ThumbDV) that is colored blue. The DV Dongle was the Internet Labs thing, same company that made the DVAP (Dongle with a radio in it and is red). The ThumbDV (what I use) is more similar to the newer dongle Internet Labs came out with, I assume because NW Digital Radio and their products were much cheaper and did much more (with a better AMBE chip). I used WinDV with my ThumbDV when I first got it. It's fine. However, Blue DV is alot nicer and also can do DMR if you have an actual THumbDV (you need the better AMBE chip). 
I prefer using a radio, but there are times (such as last week in Arizona) where I can't use DStar over a regular radio and repeater (only brought an ID51 and was too far from both Phoenix repeaters) so ThumbDV and Blue DV software allowed me to participate in our weekly D-Star/D-Rats training net. 


Differentiating the two Versions of the Thumbdv by inspection

Jay
 

I know I have seen an article on how to tell if the Thumbdv is an old version or new by visual inspection.  Google cant find it and I see no mention on this message board.  Can someon point me to it or just tell me.  I have have several and I know at least on is the old version.

Thanks in advance

jb  N4NQY


Re: [AMBED] AMBEDon buster?

 

This would be better addressed on the xlxd project on GitHub 


On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 07:54 Russell, KV4S <russelljthomas@...> wrote:
Ok what needs to be done to make XLX in the cloud use this ambed server?

I resolved my original problem by installing the full version of stretch. The Lite version of buster and stretch got the same error.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 7:47 PM Russell, KV4S via Groups.Io <russelljthomas=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have a fresh install of buster light and I'm working on installing ambed.

Any idea why I'm getting this?

g++ -c -std=c++11 -pthread cvocodecinterface.cpp -o cvocodecinterface.o
g++ -std=c++11 -pthread  cusb3003hrinterface.o cusb3003df2etinterface.o ccallsign.o cudpsocket.o cambepacket.o cambeserver.o cstream.o cusb3000interface.o cusb3xxxinterface.o main.o ctimepoint.o cpacket.o cvocodecchannel.o cftdidevicedescr.o cusb3003interface.o cip.o cvocodecs.o cvoicepacket.o cpacketqueue.o cbuffer.o ccontroller.o cvocodecinterface.o -lftd2xx -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -o ambed
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.so when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.a when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lftd2xx
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [makefile:11: ambed] Error 1
mkdir -p /ambed
cp ambed /ambed/
cp: cannot stat 'ambed': No such file or directory
make: *** [makefile:21: install] Error 1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont see an AMBED file after compiling. Look at the errors above and try again. Exiting.....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Re: [AMBED] AMBEDon buster?

 

Ok what needs to be done to make XLX in the cloud use this ambed server?

I resolved my original problem by installing the full version of stretch. The Lite version of buster and stretch got the same error.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 7:47 PM Russell, KV4S via Groups.Io <russelljthomas=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have a fresh install of buster light and I'm working on installing ambed.

Any idea why I'm getting this?

g++ -c -std=c++11 -pthread cvocodecinterface.cpp -o cvocodecinterface.o
g++ -std=c++11 -pthread  cusb3003hrinterface.o cusb3003df2etinterface.o ccallsign.o cudpsocket.o cambepacket.o cambeserver.o cstream.o cusb3000interface.o cusb3xxxinterface.o main.o ctimepoint.o cpacket.o cvocodecchannel.o cftdidevicedescr.o cusb3003interface.o cip.o cvocodecs.o cvoicepacket.o cpacketqueue.o cbuffer.o ccontroller.o cvocodecinterface.o -lftd2xx -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -o ambed
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.so when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.a when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lftd2xx
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [makefile:11: ambed] Error 1
mkdir -p /ambed
cp ambed /ambed/
cp: cannot stat 'ambed': No such file or directory
make: *** [makefile:21: install] Error 1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont see an AMBED file after compiling. Look at the errors above and try again. Exiting.....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


[AMBED] AMBEDon buster?

 

I have a fresh install of buster light and I'm working on installing ambed.

Any idea why I'm getting this?

g++ -c -std=c++11 -pthread cvocodecinterface.cpp -o cvocodecinterface.o
g++ -std=c++11 -pthread  cusb3003hrinterface.o cusb3003df2etinterface.o ccallsign.o cudpsocket.o cambepacket.o cambeserver.o cstream.o cusb3000interface.o cusb3xxxinterface.o main.o ctimepoint.o cpacket.o cvocodecchannel.o cftdidevicedescr.o cusb3003interface.o cip.o cvocodecs.o cvoicepacket.o cpacketqueue.o cbuffer.o ccontroller.o cvocodecinterface.o -lftd2xx -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -o ambed
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.so when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/local/lib/libftd2xx.a when searching for -lftd2xx
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lftd2xx
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [makefile:11: ambed] Error 1
mkdir -p /ambed
cp ambed /ambed/
cp: cannot stat 'ambed': No such file or directory
make: *** [makefile:21: install] Error 1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont see an AMBED file after compiling. Look at the errors above and try again. Exiting.....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

 

This forum is about the ThimbDV™ and PiDV AMBE  devices. 

BlueDV allows you to use these devices with your computer.

There are other groups for hotspots. Including the UDRC and DRAWS™ when paired with a radio. 


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Wa4kfz
 

On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:42 PM, Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL) <jblake8061@...> wrote:


Michael, 
Maybe my little DV Dongle that called itself Blue DV is not what you are using now. I know when I purchased this little DV Dongle, I was told by several folks that it was old technology and that was early last year. I purchased the little dongle so I could just plug it into my laptop, put on headset and not worry about having a radio. I have been on D-Star for the last 4 year and own the Icom 7100, 5100, 51A special edition and recently the Kenwood D74. I also use C4FM Fusion, and DMR. I stared out using a DV dongle the red one with my 7100 and laptop to get on DStar. After I purchased the Nano Spot which does all three of the most common modes I use it almost 100% of the time. I do have some local repeaters for DMR access, which I use when I want to chat local. So maybe my little Blue DV Dongle is not same was what you folks are talking about. Yes I know Echolink is FM, but it's easy to use. I also have a ILRP node. I was looking at a 220 AllStar node at Frost Fest last Saturday and am considering setting one of those up when money permits. I am always open to new ways to use ham radio. One thing using a phone is not as much fun as using a radio. although in reality a smart cell phone is just a Handie Talkie on 900 mhz talking though a repeater (tower). So basically when you are on a cell phone you are using a two way radio.
73 
Jack L. Blake



On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:45 PM Chui K9CHU <chui.muro@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
There is a use case for remote access to a local repeater. 

Local group has a regular net, but does not connect to a reflector.  A  member of that group is remote (vacation, business, ...) and wants to join the network.  BlueDV connected remotely to a 'local' repeater solves that problem.
 
I do prefer RF to a repeater, but there are legitimate use cases such as above.
This is exactly the case for me.
We practiced our ARES/RACES net, weekly, on Wednesdays.
This was previously done through a local repeater.
We lost access to that repeater, and have gone to simplex VHF.
We've tried to relay the information, and also have information distributed via Winlink.
This had caused our nets to drop to about a 20% retention rate.
We have installed a D-Star repeater, and a GIG-E internet drop, but as the radios are an investment...most of us do not participate in the nets anymore.

I'm not trying to use the BlueDV as a replacement, but it would be great to continue participating until "the old fashioned way" can come through fruition; for those us us with limited budgets.

73,
-Chui


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL)
 

Michael, 
Maybe my little DV Dongle that called itself Blue DV is not what you are using now. I know when I purchased this little DV Dongle, I was told by several folks that it was old technology and that was early last year. I purchased the little dongle so I could just plug it into my laptop, put on headset and not worry about having a radio. I have been on D-Star for the last 4 year and own the Icom 7100, 5100, 51A special edition and recently the Kenwood D74. I also use C4FM Fusion, and DMR. I stared out using a DV dongle the red one with my 7100 and laptop to get on DStar. After I purchased the Nano Spot which does all three of the most common modes I use it almost 100% of the time. I do have some local repeaters for DMR access, which I use when I want to chat local. So maybe my little Blue DV Dongle is not same was what you folks are talking about. Yes I know Echolink is FM, but it's easy to use. I also have a ILRP node. I was looking at a 220 AllStar node at Frost Fest last Saturday and am considering setting one of those up when money permits. I am always open to new ways to use ham radio. One thing using a phone is not as much fun as using a radio. although in reality a smart cell phone is just a Handie Talkie on 900 mhz talking though a repeater (tower). So basically when you are on a cell phone you are using a two way radio.
73 
Jack L. Blake



On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:45 PM Chui K9CHU <chui.muro@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
There is a use case for remote access to a local repeater. 

Local group has a regular net, but does not connect to a reflector.  A  member of that group is remote (vacation, business, ...) and wants to join the network.  BlueDV connected remotely to a 'local' repeater solves that problem.
 
I do prefer RF to a repeater, but there are legitimate use cases such as above.
This is exactly the case for me.
We practiced our ARES/RACES net, weekly, on Wednesdays.
This was previously done through a local repeater.
We lost access to that repeater, and have gone to simplex VHF.
We've tried to relay the information, and also have information distributed via Winlink.
This had caused our nets to drop to about a 20% retention rate.
We have installed a D-Star repeater, and a GIG-E internet drop, but as the radios are an investment...most of us do not participate in the nets anymore.

I'm not trying to use the BlueDV as a replacement, but it would be great to continue participating until "the old fashioned way" can come through fruition; for those us us with limited budgets.

73,
-Chui


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Chui K9CHU
 
Edited

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
There is a use case for remote access to a local repeater. 

Local group has a regular net, but does not connect to a reflector.  A  member of that group is remote (vacation, business, ...) and wants to join the network.  BlueDV connected remotely to a 'local' repeater solves that problem.
 
I do prefer RF to a repeater, but there are legitimate use cases such as above.
This is exactly the case for me.
We practiced our ARES/RACES net, weekly, on Wednesdays.
This was previously done through a local repeater.
We lost access to that repeater, and have gone to simplex VHF.
We've tried to relay the information, and also have information distributed via Winlink.
This had caused our nets to drop to about a 20% retention rate.
We have installed a D-Star repeater, and a GIG-E internet drop, but as the radios are an investment...most of us do not participate in the nets anymore.

I'm not trying to use the BlueDV as a replacement, but it would be great to continue participating until "the old fashioned way" can come through fruition; for those us us with limited budgets.

73,
-Chui


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Andrew O'Brien
 

One of my major disappointments in Dstar is the focus on reflectors and the lack of support by some sysops and software developers for the repeater linking and call routing capabilities of Dstar .



Andy K3UK. 


On Feb 13, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Michael Mandell <mikemandell@...> wrote:

Jack,
Blue DV is relatively new software. How much have you used Echolink? Yes, it links FM repeaters over the internet kind of OK. Allstar is a MUCH superior method of doing this if FM linking is what you want to do. Still, FM linking is not what we're doing here. It's like saying why use a ham radio when you can use a phone. Two different technologies. 


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Michael Mandell
 

Jack,
Blue DV is relatively new software. How much have you used Echolink? Yes, it links FM repeaters over the internet kind of OK. Allstar is a MUCH superior method of doing this if FM linking is what you want to do. Still, FM linking is not what we're doing here. It's like saying why use a ham radio when you can use a phone. Two different technologies. 


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

 

If the repeater isn't D-STAR and isn't connected to the network, it's kind of a moot point.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:08 PM Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL) <jblake8061@...> wrote:
John
Your point well taken. Unfortunately not all  repeaters have internet access. The Blue DV is old tech. I do have one myself but having used it much since I got my Nano Spot. I might suggest that local repeater owners look into just adding Echolink to their repeater. This would make it easier for anyone who wants to check into a local net a lot easier. No additional hardware to purchase. Echolink or a IRLP node are good choices. Echolink can be used from your smart phone, laptop or a tablet.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:16 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
There is a use case for remote access to a local repeater. 

Local group has a regular net, but does not connect to a reflector.  A  member of that group is remote (vacation, business, ...) and wants to join the network.  BlueDV connected remotely to a 'local' repeater solves that problem.

I do prefer RF to a repeater, but there are legitimate use cases such as above.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:11 PM Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL) <jblake8061@...> wrote:
With the Blue-DV you should just access the reflectors. If you want to access a local repeater I would suggest you do it the old fashioned way with a radio and using RF.
73's/AI4LL

Jack L. Blake




--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Michael Mandell
 

Ha! Like me, right now! I am going to "remote in" to our W30I repeater, but asked if someone local could link it to a reflector we have the near-exclusive use of so if there is somebody else out there like me, they can also link. 
I don't believe bandwidth is an issue when linking one user to a repeater. This is exactly the same bandwidth callsign routing would use, which is a base function of D-Star. 
I intitially was just going to link to the repeater but remembered we have another member in Florida who may want to get on. I'm not sure D-Star will allow multiple people to remotely link...I think it says "already linked" when you try. 
KC3BLF


Re: Newbie : Access repeaters rather than reflectors using BlueDV ?

Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL)
 

John
Your point well taken. Unfortunately not all  repeaters have internet access. The Blue DV is old tech. I do have one myself but having used it much since I got my Nano Spot. I might suggest that local repeater owners look into just adding Echolink to their repeater. This would make it easier for anyone who wants to check into a local net a lot easier. No additional hardware to purchase. Echolink or a IRLP node are good choices. Echolink can be used from your smart phone, laptop or a tablet.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:16 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
There is a use case for remote access to a local repeater. 

Local group has a regular net, but does not connect to a reflector.  A  member of that group is remote (vacation, business, ...) and wants to join the network.  BlueDV connected remotely to a 'local' repeater solves that problem.

I do prefer RF to a repeater, but there are legitimate use cases such as above.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:11 PM Jack L. Blake Sr (AI4LL) <jblake8061@...> wrote:
With the Blue-DV you should just access the reflectors. If you want to access a local repeater I would suggest you do it the old fashioned way with a radio and using RF.
73's/AI4LL

Jack L. Blake




--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE