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Re: Pre BETA version of BlueDV AMBE OTG

Ko Seokki
 
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testing video
REF 001 E tx testing ok
D STAR and DMR QSO TEST OK.
https://youtu.be/EkDRB2REig8

Re: newbie trouble

lowbytes@...
 

Hello
I´m also new to this group and hope that i´m posting to the right thread.
Im running BlueDV on different setups and with different hardware
On my windows machine (Surface 3 Pro) im running an ambe3000 board as a dongle without any Problem
On this machine also my BT BlueDV Hardware (vie USB) running without problems
But i´m in Trouble to run BlueDV on Android or Linux - the only device running BlueDV without any Problems (BlueStack paired via BT) is my Samsung S8Plus
On all other devices (Nexus 7 - Samsung Galaxy s6Edge Plus HP Touchpad@android7 and Raspberry PI3) i can only connect to the BM Network ! Each time i try to connect
to DMR+ Network there is no connection to any DMR+ Server - the Setup the field for choosing any DMR+ Server is empty - If i start up BlueDV in DMR+ mode - i always getting an
Error ........... Trying to connect - Reconnecting - but never getting a connection to DMR+ - I wonder that there is no way to select a DMR+ Server like it is for Brandmeister .....
Any Suggestion how to get it up and running ? BTW the S8Plus is not rooted - all other android devices are rooted - may this causes my problem?????
Thanks for sharing your ideas 
73 de DG3DBV

Pre BETA version of BlueDV AMBE OTG

 

Hi All,

If you have an OTG cable, a phone/tablet that supports OTG, ThumbDV and time to test... 
Please sent me the following in an email:

- The email address that is used in the play store
- Photo of the OTG cable 
- The type/brand of the OTG cable ( to build up a database of working cables )
- Type of phone/tablet ( to build up a database of working devices)
- Your call

My email: info@...

Will pick randomly 10 persons after 12 hours from now so every timezone can test.
Keep in mind that the OTG version is still very buggy because I am still working on it. 

Greets and thanks!
    David PA7LIM

Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

Hi Chris,

OTG will be added soon. Then you can connect the ThumbDV directly to your phone.
See video : https://youtu.be/FMtZkeXP4yg

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 11/12/2017 om 03:22 schreef Chris Day:

Hi David,

Yes this is the 3G/4G on my end. The delays are quite long and the audio is slow and distorted. However, the app works great across wifi at my home, where I've run DSTAR and other nodes, even a full duplex Allstarlink repeater, for years.

What did you mean by the "OTG" version.

Thanks, 73 Chris

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yes this is related to the 3G/4G connection. Reflector and AMBEServer traffic is UDP so when a frame is dropped you will hear a gap. I am buffering a lot so I can deal with some jitter. The OTG version will give better quality because you only have reflector traffic left. Even when you miss some traffic, I am filling that up with white noise ( only DSTAR ).

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 10/12/2017 om 14:09 schreef Chris Day:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.




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Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

Thanks, I was wondering :)

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
Sorry the "no" was meant to be typed in an other window. Please disregard.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
no

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

Sorry the "no" was meant to be typed in an other window. Please disregard.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
no

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.




On Dec 10, 2017 05:09, "Chris Day" <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.




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Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

Hi David,

Yes this is the 3G/4G on my end. The delays are quite long and the audio is slow and distorted. However, the app works great across wifi at my home, where I've run DSTAR and other nodes, even a full duplex Allstarlink repeater, for years.

What did you mean by the "OTG" version.

Thanks, 73 Chris

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yes this is related to the 3G/4G connection. Reflector and AMBEServer traffic is UDP so when a frame is dropped you will hear a gap. I am buffering a lot so I can deal with some jitter. The OTG version will give better quality because you only have reflector traffic left. Even when you miss some traffic, I am filling that up with white noise ( only DSTAR ).

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 10/12/2017 om 14:09 schreef Chris Day:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.




Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

no

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.




On Dec 10, 2017 05:09, "Chris Day" <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.




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Re: OTG charging issue

kyle@...
 

This is of particular interest to me so I've been looking around for a possible solution.
Note that I've had the same issue finding an OTG adapter that will charge the phone (USB-C in my case) while allowing external devices to be connected. It has been frustrating to say the least. I did finally find one that works but the current to the phone is so low that it barely registers as a charge. The end result is that my phone's battery just drains more slowly. In any case, since my phone uses USB-C, if I do find such a cable, you couldn't use it anyway.

Here's a summary of what I've found so far for micro-USB devices:
1) Most OTG/"charge" cables provide OTG capabilities and "charge" the device connected to the other leg of the "Y", no current is sent to the phone/tablet
2) There are some OTG "powered hubs" that can charge the phone/tablet while providing power to the device(s) connected to the hub. However, this ability to charge both host and device simultaneously depends heavily on the particular phone/tablet in use. In the end, it appears to be trial and error for everyone out there.

I did find 2 devices that "may" work on your phone:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-3-Feet-Cable-External-Drive/dp/B0047AALS0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512940939&sr=8-1&keywords=startech+Y+cable
works on "some" tablets and "some" phones. You'll need a USB-A gender changer (female-to-female) to plug in the ThumbDV

https://www.banggood.com/3-USB-to-Micro-USB-OTG-Charge-HUB-Adapter-4-In-1-Charging-Universal-For-Samsung-For-Android-p-1202252.html?gmcCountry=US&currency=USD&createTmp=1&cur_warehouse=CN&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_elc&utm_content=zouzou&utm_campaign=pla-us-mpa-cc-pc
has a switch to change modes from OTG to Charge. However, on some devices, putting the switch in "Charge" mode allows the phone/tablet to charge AND the OTG continues to function.

One of these might be worth a try.

Good luck - keep us posted. To me, this is the holy grail (run everything from my Android phone)

Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

Hi Chris,

Yes this is related to the 3G/4G connection. Reflector and AMBEServer traffic is UDP so when a frame is dropped you will hear a gap. I am buffering a lot so I can deal with some jitter. The OTG version will give better quality because you only have reflector traffic left. Even when you miss some traffic, I am filling that up with white noise ( only DSTAR ).

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 10/12/2017 om 14:09 schreef Chris Day:

I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.

Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.




On Dec 10, 2017 05:09, "Chris Day" <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.
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WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.

Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

 

If your friends need to buy ThumbDVs, if they order 2 or more on the same order, to single address, use coupon code transcode for a discount.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:06 PM, <mi0ceo_geo@...> wrote:
Hi David 
Sorry to tell you that you have been sited in a divorce case here in N.Ireland that my wife has instigated naming you as a reason of the break down in our marriage.
The BlueDv for windows and ThumbDv is now the only way I use DMR or Dstar. This latest update has kept me away from my wife for 24hrs (thank you). The Brandmeister lookup has set the world of DMR,Dstar alight for me, marvelous. I have passed your software to all my friends and the response is phenomenal. Have a well earned rest and a Merry Christmas from everyone here in N.Ireland. Thanks again.

Best George MI0CEO 
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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

Hi David 
Sorry to tell you that you have been sited in a divorce case here in N.Ireland that my wife has instigated naming you as a reason of the break down in our marriage.
The BlueDv for windows and ThumbDv is now the only way I use DMR or Dstar. This latest update has kept me away from my wife for 24hrs (thank you). The Brandmeister lookup has set the world of DMR,Dstar alight for me, marvelous. I have passed your software to all my friends and the response is phenomenal. Have a well earned rest and a Merry Christmas from everyone here in N.Ireland. Thanks again.

Best George MI0CEO 

Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

David Smith
 

Hi David,

I am going to download this new one you posted. This program
just keeps getting better and better.

Cheers,

David Smith - KA5DJS

Friday, December 8, 2017 10:45 AM

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM


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Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

Jose Manuel Martinez Barbera
 

nice work David!
when will be enable Fusion too??



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2017-12-08 16:45 GMT+00:00 David PA7LIM <info@...>:

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM


BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

 

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM

Re: newbie trouble

Patrice Quilici <f1hmr@...>
 

The red one


Le 6 décembre 2017 à 17:03:02, Bryan Hoyer (bhhoyer@...) a écrit:

Do both LEDs flash?

Bryan K7UDR




73’s F1HMR

Re: newbie trouble

Patrice Quilici <f1hmr@...>
 

The red one


Le 6 décembre 2017 à 17:03:02, Bryan Hoyer (bhhoyer@...) a écrit:

Do both LEDs flash?

Bryan K7UDR




73’s F1HMR

Re: newbie trouble

kevin@...
 


I am new as well.  I have ambe server up and running and can connect with my android phone. Great product.  Was curious how to get the windows bluedv to attach to the ambe server across the network.  That way I can access the thumbdv remote with laptop.