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Re: ThumbDV and BlueDV

J G Shaw
 

Robert – yes, all you need is a PC with Internet access and running Windows, plus a ThumbDV, and the BlueDV software.  I use a Lenovo Thinkpad X-1 running Windows 10.   I gave a presentation back in June 2018 at the ARRL regional conference held in Seaside, OR on how to set things up. I’ve attached a pdf file of the slides I used.  Slides #4, #5, and #6 should provide all the information you will need.   

73

Jim WA6PX@...

 

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io [mailto:ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Raymond
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 3:38 PM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: [ambe] ThumbDV and BlueDV

 

I was led to believe by a fellow ham that the ThumbDV and BlueDv is all I would need to connect it to my wifi. Nothing was mentioned about any other hardware (such as megadv). All the instructions I find refer to hooking up megadv in conjunction with the thumbed and Blue Dv. Am I able to use this without a megadv device?  Thanks and 73

W7RJR

Re: ThumbDV and BlueDV

VE3MIC
 

Hi Robert,
Yes you can -with just your ThumbDV, but you need the AMBE version of BlueDV running.  Have a look at this>  ambepage  .
73 de Mike



Re: ThumbDV and BlueDV

 

A Windows computer with speaker and microphone, Internet Connection, ThumbDV, and BlueDV will get you into the network(s) for D-STAR and DMR.

This video shows how to setup.  https://youtu.be/291k3VxJCv0  (Baud rate is 460800)

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Robert Raymond <w7rjr@...> wrote:
I was led to believe by a fellow ham that the ThumbDV and BlueDv is all I would need to connect it to my wifi. Nothing was mentioned about any other hardware (such as megadv). All the instructions I find refer to hooking up megadv in conjunction with the thumbed and Blue Dv. Am I able to use this without a megadv device?  Thanks and 73

W7RJR




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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

ThumbDV and BlueDV

Robert Raymond <w7rjr@...>
 

I was led to believe by a fellow ham that the ThumbDV and BlueDv is all I would need to connect it to my wifi. Nothing was mentioned about any other hardware (such as megadv). All the instructions I find refer to hooking up megadv in conjunction with the thumbed and Blue Dv. Am I able to use this without a megadv device?  Thanks and 73

W7RJR

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

 

No worries and thanks for the referrals, they are much appreciated and your friends should enjoy the sale price -- http://nwdigitalradio.com/thumbdv-sale-has-been-extended-thru-august/

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:18 AM, <node750tt@...> wrote:
Thanks for directing my request, and my humble apologizes.

Just so you are aware I have directed (5) other hams to purchase the ThumbDV and you will see these orders coming through, you will be aware that I was the individual that directed them your way. That said, thanks for the guidance thus far. I think I nail the issue down to the USB Sound card.




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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 

Thanks for directing my request, and my humble apologizes.

Just so you are aware I have directed (5) other hams to purchase the ThumbDV and you will see these orders coming through, you will be aware that I was the individual that directed them your way. That said, thanks for the guidance thus far. I think I nail the issue down to the USB Sound card.

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 

John,
When I boot the Pi without USB Dongle Ambeserver will not run. I must boot the Pi with the Dongle in one of the USB ports. So I cannot test the Dongle in the Window 
PC using the Pi ip address in BlueDV as the ambeserver will not be running on the Pi.

Another thing in BlueDV setup under Ambe, when I uncheck ThumbDV / DV3000 box and tick use ambeserver box,  entered the ip address saved, open back up BlueDV setup page the tick in that box is not there. Do you think is is because BlueDV is realizing that the abmeserver is not running?

The server test fine on the Pi with the .py script. I also checked in ../log/opendv nothing in the logs show errors all shows fine. 

pi@DStar:/ $ sudo systemctl status ambeserver@...
 ambeserver@... - DV3000 Daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ambeserver@.service; enabled; vendor pres
   Active: active (running) since Wed 2018-08-01 07:11:08 UTC; 4min 18s ago
  Process: 442 ExecStartPre=/bin/chmod 0660 /dev/ttyUSB0 (code=exited, status=0/
  Process: 437 ExecStartPre=/bin/chgrp dialout /dev/ttyUSB0 (code=exited, status
 Main PID: 451 (AMBEserver)
   CGroup: /system.slice/system-ambeserver.slice/ambeserver@...
           ??451 /usr/sbin/AMBEserver -p 2460 -i /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 460800
 
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar systemd[1]: Starting DV3000 Daemon...
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar systemd[1]: Started DV3000 Daemon.
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar AMBEserver[451]: AMBEserver: Starting...
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar AMBEserver[451]: AMBEserver: Opened serial port /dev/ttyUS
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar AMBEserver[451]: AMBEserver: Initialized AMBE3000R version
Aug 01 07:11:08 DStar AMBEserver[451]: AMBEserver: Listening for connections on 
 
Server reply : a
                0AMBE3000R
I am able to drop or connect to any reflector, I double check my USB soundcard settings double check the alsamixer still no TX. only RX. Not sure what else to check.






Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

 

Hi Jeff,

Look at the logs in /var/log/opendv and see if it gives you an indication.

Support for ircddbgateway and dstarrepeater is through the Yahoo! groups.



On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:51 AM, <node750tt@...> wrote:
Hi John, can you tell me, I have RX fine but not getting the TX to work? I checked double checked the configuration but not getting out at all. Can you say where I went 
wrong. to track this down.

I can can connect to the various REF fine, hearing all just no TX. The ambeserver server is running on boot the ircddbgateway is connected and outputting data, same for the DR.

Thanks 




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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 

Hi John, can you tell me, I have RX fine but not getting the TX to work? I checked double checked the configuration but not getting out at all. Can you say where I went 
wrong. to track this down.

I can can connect to the various REF fine, hearing all just no TX. The ambeserver server is running on boot the ircddbgateway is connected and outputting data, same for the DR.

Thanks 

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 

Finally success.
Raspberry Pi3 B + with:
USB CMedia sound card:
compass image :
ambeserver:
dummy repeater:
ircddbgateway:
DVstick 30 dongle

setup and working fine on DStar.



Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 
Edited

So far I got Dummy Repeater to open and transmit, and got rid of this annoying debug screen. So I can get to the preference page. Went to home/pi ls -a open the file .Dummy Repeater and edit the dongle line to = 
Now on the preference page I set Dongle to DV3000 network, Save and restart, dummy repeater is opening and transmitting.

For ircddbgateway, went to sudo ircddbgatewayconfig, you must use sudo to be able to save your settings. I reset some configurations as per the instructions listed, hxxp://nwdigitalradio.com/install-dummy-repeater-and-ircddbgateway/,  ( not sure the rules of posting live links hence xx ), choose one of the freeservers save and restart. Ran sudo ircddbgateway restart,  opened fine just not connected to IRCDDB.

The last sage in this puzzle to solved.

BlueDV Error When installing

n0kyn@...
 

New hear and I am trying to install BlueDV on my Windows 10 computer for my ThumbDV,  and I get back an error message cannot make directory  " c:\users\nokyn\documents\bluedv " .  That is far as I can get.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick
N0KYN

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 

Thanks John for the reply.

ambeserver is running fine, tested it is fine and starts on reboot.
dummyrepeater is opening only on this debug screen,  what to do in order for it to open where I can get to the preference?
ircddbgateway how can I fix the error to get it working normally.

So the two pieces of the puzzle are:
Dummyrepeater
ircddbgateway

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

 

Welcome to the group.

The DVstick is a completely separate and independent product from the NW Digital Radio ThumbDV, but that being said, let's clear up some of the information.

Compass OS is really only required for the UDRC family of boards, to support a driver.  AMBEserver should run on almost any Linux, including stock Raspbian Stretch.  The newest 'Cedar' Compass images are Raspbian Stretch and the driver is now loadable either on Compass or Raspbian (see https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/compass/topics for discussion).

AMBEserver, DummyRepeater, and ircDDBgateway are installable on the Compass image (or Raspbian with the right repositories included) and are the development work of G4KLX and there are Yahoo! Groups to support them (ircDDBGateway and pcrepeatercontroller).

DummyRepeater can either talk to AMBEserver by selecting it in the configuration or directly to the USB port (with AMBEserver disabled, only one program can access the physical USB port at a time).   If you select the USB route, make sure you select the 'DV3000' (doing this from memory) and not DVDongle, they are different chipsets and have different drivers.

If your ambeserver is working properly, you can test it from your BlueDV install on your Windows box by selecting AMBEserver in BlueDV and giving it the IP address of your Pi that is running ambeserver.

If you run ambesocket.py (with a running AMBEserver) and it goes back to the command prompt, then it didn't execute.



On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:14 AM, <node750tt@...> wrote:
This is my first post, I have a RPi 3 B+ and my USB dongle is the European version of the ThumbDV it is DVstick 30 which I use with BlueDV on my windows machines.

I have installed
Compass OS
Ambeserver 
Dummy Repeater 
IrcDDBgateway

However I am unable to get on to DStar. I am not quite sure as to how exactly all goes.
I start the ambeserver with sudo systemctl ambeserver@... 
I check with sudo systemctl status ambeserver@... I see ACTIVE in green. I then run the python ambesocket.py script, it gives no output but a prompt on the screen.
I start dummyrepeater click on Transmit and get cannot tx.  
I check with dmesg | grep tty and see that the dongle is on ttyUSB0 and when I start ambeserver it shows it also, but when I set this in DummyRepeater under devices, it says it is not there.
Anyone can walk me through getting this to work. I will like to set the ambeserver to start every time I reboot my RPi.




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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: Ambe server on raspberry pi 3 B+

node750tt@...
 
Edited

This is my first post, I have a RPi 3 B+ and my USB dongle is the European version of the ThumbDV it is DVstick 30 which I use with BlueDV on my windows machines.

I have installed
Compass OS
Ambeserver 
Dummy Repeater 
IrcDDBgateway

However I am unable to get on to DStar. I am not quite sure as to how exactly all goes.
I start the ambeserver with sudo systemctl ambeserver@... 
I check with sudo systemctl status ambeserver@... I see ACTIVE in green. I then run the sudo python ambesocket.py script, it shows the server is fine and running.  
I start ircddbgateway and getting and error 
Cannot open var/log click OK get another error
Assertion Fail on Line 67 in file Common/logger.cpp and function DoLog:m_file->IsOpened()
Abort.
I set in Dummy Repeater DV-Dongle and Device ttyUSB0
When I start dummyrepeater it opens only with a DEBUG white screen
I check with dmesg | grep tty and see that the dongle is on ttyUSB0 
Now I cannot get dummyrepeater pass this screen, to reconfigure it.
Anyone can walk me through getting this going to onto DStar on RPi ?

Re: DV 3000

 

The ThumbDV (DV3000U) has no part in populating lists or connections to gateways, reflectors, etc.

The ThumbDV takes digitized voice over a USB serial port and converts it to AMBE, which it returns over the USB Serial port (and the reverse).  Everything else is the software application you are using, like Buster, BlueDV, DummyRepeater, or WinDV.  Support for those applications come from their authors.

People on the list may be able to help if you tell them what application you are running, what OS, etc.



On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Michael Masters via Groups.Io <masterscarpet@...> wrote:
My DV3000 apparently communicates with my computer as when I click on transmit, the dongle lights up. I can not connect to a gateway or get gateway info for that matter. My firewall is configured so it can get through??




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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

DV 3000

Michael Masters <masterscarpet@...>
 

My DV3000 apparently communicates with my computer as when I click on transmit, the dongle lights up. I can not connect to a gateway or get gateway info for that matter. My firewall is configured so it can get through??

Re: ThumbDV and Buster on OS X

Annaliese McDermond
 

Are you sure you have v1.2.1, the latest on the app store?  There was a bug with entitlements that cause it to fail to be able to get the microphone device.

— Anna

On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:18 PM, Gary McBroom <73064macgyver@...> wrote:

I have just installed Buster on a MacBook Pro.  Everything is working on the receive side but I am unable to transmit.  Anyone have any suggestions?

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 11:41 PM <Luke.evans@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 08:40 pm, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
If it doesn't work at 230400, wouldn't you repeat the process at 460800?
Indeed you would :)

Finally, the procedure outlined by Annaliese, including the trying it again with 460800, worked for me. 
Hoorah! 

I think I was previous having it fail, then closing Buster, believing that it would be better to try again with it 'clean' startup.  I had certainly been unplugging and reinserting the dongle *a lot* and indeed changing between the two serial speeds, but obviously this trick was to leave Buster running and trust that reinserting the USB would cause all the right handshaking to restart. 

Anyway, thanks to all.  I finally get to enjoy Buster :) 



Re: ThumbDV and Buster on OS X

Annaliese McDermond
 



On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Luke.evans@... wrote:

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 08:40 pm, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
If it doesn't work at 230400, wouldn't you repeat the process at 460800?
Indeed you would :)

Finally, the procedure outlined by Annaliese, including the trying it again with 460800, worked for me. 
Hoorah! 

I think I was previous having it fail, then closing Buster, believing that it would be better to try again with it 'clean' startup.  I had certainly been unplugging and reinserting the dongle *a lot* and indeed changing between the two serial speeds, but obviously this trick was to leave Buster running and trust that reinserting the USB would cause all the right handshaking to restart. 

Buster tries to remember the last working setup and always use that if it can.  That’s why restarting it doesn’t always help, because when you initially use the program, there is no good setup, so it can sometimes get confused.  I’ve tried to do an automatic baud rate detection, but without a hardware reset on the AMBE chip, it’s pretty much impossible.

— Anna



Anyway, thanks to all.  I finally get to enjoy Buster :) 

Re: How to return ThumbDV to original state after having modified USB Descriptor in FTProg

 

Correct. All ThumbDVs shipping now have the descriptor set to work with ambed and they work fine with older applications.


On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 03:47 TG9AOR <qrz@...> wrote:
John(K7VE): Thanks for the info. I take it BlueDV will work as well without having to modify the descriptor as well.

73 de TG9AOR