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Re: TOTALLY CONFUSED...

Gwen Patton
 

Kenny,

Thank you! I pulled a clone of that repository, did a make, then make install, and now I have it working both from my Win7 pc on BlueDV AND from my Android phone on BlueDV.

It's still an experiment, but I have it actually functioning, so that's the important part.

The instructions prior to this are piecemeal, confusing, and as you've shown, full of obfuscations and incorrect information. THIS worked.

NOTHING on the Wiki worked at all. That wiki page needs to be edited to remove all the deprecated information.


Re: TOTALLY CONFUSED...

Marco Della Cagna
 

I use this solution:
If you want try use ip 2.227.228.81 in your client.
73
Marco IK6IOQ

Il lun 17 set 2018, 22:23 Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> ha scritto:
Ok, I'm going to have to echo some of the plaintive requests by others who have asked this same thing before me.

I have a RasPi 3B+ that I want to install AMBEserver on. I would rather NOT have to build a whole new microSD with Compass on it, and from what John has said in earlier topics, it's not necessary -- you can install it on Raspbian Stretch, which is what I have currently. I can't install from an apt-get install ambeserver, it can't find the package. So I used the "quick build on Linux" instructions that John pointed to. I have an AMBEserver executable.

I created /etc/opendv because I didn't have one. I moved my executable there. I created the "ambeserver-ttyUSB0.conf" file using the information at the top of the Addendum.

I do NOT have an "ambeserver-ttyUSB0.service" file. I don't know how to BUILD that file. Since I'm not working with a system image that has any of the other files built into it, don't assume I have ANYTHING ELSE other than the executable and that .conf file, because there are no working instructions for how to GET them other than using a Compass image, and THAT is listed as "deprecated" or "unstable". There are posts saying that it should be able to run with any new Linux distro, including Raspbian Stretch, which I have.

Do I get this by installing OpenDV? Some other package? Is there a repository I can attach to?

This is a complete mess. There are no comprehensive and complete instructions anywhere. Everything is either old, or superceded, or incomplete, or doesn't work.

I just want to put the ThumbDV on a RasPi so I can access it using my phone around the house. I can put the ThumbDV on my phone using OTG, but then the battery drains like an inflatable pool hit with a weed whacker, and I can't charge it AND use the ThumbDV at the same time. Eventually, it'd be nice if I can port forward this out into the world so I can access it from the net anywhere, but that would be a much larger project. I'd be happy to be able to do it from my workbench without moving the ThumbDV and microphone there from my main shack PC.

How do I get the REST of the application suite required to get AMBEserver up and running on this Raspbian machine?

Gwen, NG3P


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Kenny Richards
 

I am pretty sure the ThumbDV I am using is of the second generation, so it doesn't need to be forced to the 460800 baud rate. I had forgot about that requirement for some people, but as you said, it can also be done from the command line.

At the moment I don't have anything running on the Pi/ThumbDV board, but AMBEserver. It is now a custom version, since I added the code to have it write out status to the syslog file, but I never got around to writing a sys.d file since I was starting and stopping custom versions all the time. 

I personally use Buster to connect to reflectors with the setup. (I'm primarily a Mac/Linux person) 

73,
Kenny, KU7M


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Cliff Miller
 

Kenny - Thank you very much.  The instructions about how to start it as a service made me wonder if that was required.  I created the /etc/opendv folder and put the config file given in the wiki there.  Al it does is change the baud rate to that appropriate for the A model ThumbDV (460800, I think).  Even that can be part of the command line, so the config file would not be necessary.  Good news!

What other software do you run along with AMBEserver to do DStar?

73 - Cliff W4HGR Evans, GA


Re: TOTALLY CONFUSED...

Kenny Richards
 

Gwen,

You shouldn't need any other packages or applications (suites), if you have successfully built AMBEserver from the source. I couldn't find default Github repo, but this one has what I remember as a working approach for building and running the app.

https://github.com/ea4aoj/AMBEServer/blob/master/README.md

You can start the program from the command line to get started, all the configuration required is given as command line parameters. (As outlined in the above README.md)  I believe the ambeserver-ttyUSB0.service file you referenced is just necessary to have AMBEserver auto start when the Pi boots.  

I hope that helps...

Thanks
Kenny


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Kenny Richards
 

There really isn't any configuration files, you just need to start it from the command line. This is the command I use to start it on my server at home, with a ThumbDV. I don't have the PiDV running at the moment, but the start up is similar (just point to the correct device). 

At some point I should create a systemd file to-do this automatically and I should also create a pull request for the changes that write out status messages to syslog....

Hope that helps,
Kenny

sudo /usr/bin/AMBEserver -i /dev/ttyUSB0


TOTALLY CONFUSED...

Gwen Patton
 

Ok, I'm going to have to echo some of the plaintive requests by others who have asked this same thing before me.

I have a RasPi 3B+ that I want to install AMBEserver on. I would rather NOT have to build a whole new microSD with Compass on it, and from what John has said in earlier topics, it's not necessary -- you can install it on Raspbian Stretch, which is what I have currently. I can't install from an apt-get install ambeserver, it can't find the package. So I used the "quick build on Linux" instructions that John pointed to. I have an AMBEserver executable.

I created /etc/opendv because I didn't have one. I moved my executable there. I created the "ambeserver-ttyUSB0.conf" file using the information at the top of the Addendum.

I do NOT have an "ambeserver-ttyUSB0.service" file. I don't know how to BUILD that file. Since I'm not working with a system image that has any of the other files built into it, don't assume I have ANYTHING ELSE other than the executable and that .conf file, because there are no working instructions for how to GET them other than using a Compass image, and THAT is listed as "deprecated" or "unstable". There are posts saying that it should be able to run with any new Linux distro, including Raspbian Stretch, which I have.

Do I get this by installing OpenDV? Some other package? Is there a repository I can attach to?

This is a complete mess. There are no comprehensive and complete instructions anywhere. Everything is either old, or superceded, or incomplete, or doesn't work.

I just want to put the ThumbDV on a RasPi so I can access it using my phone around the house. I can put the ThumbDV on my phone using OTG, but then the battery drains like an inflatable pool hit with a weed whacker, and I can't charge it AND use the ThumbDV at the same time. Eventually, it'd be nice if I can port forward this out into the world so I can access it from the net anywhere, but that would be a much larger project. I'd be happy to be able to do it from my workbench without moving the ThumbDV and microphone there from my main shack PC.

How do I get the REST of the application suite required to get AMBEserver up and running on this Raspbian machine?

Gwen, NG3P


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Cliff Miller
 

Ambeserver compiled just fine, but it’s the “create configuration and autostart files“ that’s not so clear.  
Working with a raspbian setup I didn’t want to lose, about to give up and just go the compass linux route.

Is there any documentation or more detailed instructions?


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

 

Yes, ambeserver pre-compiled is available on Compass Linux or building from source https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe/wiki/AMBEserver-Addendum#Quick-Build-on-Linux (pretty easy).

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:16 AM <ik6ioq@...> wrote:
Ok Tnx i will try Compass Linux.
73
Marco - IK6IOQ



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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Marco Della Cagna
 

Ok Tnx i will try Compass Linux.
73
Marco - IK6IOQ


Re: sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Ian
 

Marco,

There is a message, five messages back, that may provide you with some help.

Regards,
Ian..
link to message


sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Marco Della Cagna
 

hallo,
i try to install amberser on my Rapsberry but when i write in a terminal:
sudo apt-get install ambeserver
i receive this message:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt-get install AMBEServer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package AMBEServer
---------------------------------------------------
How can i fix this error ?
73 Marco - IK6IOQ


sudo apt-get install ambeserver

Marco Della Cagna
 

Hallo,
i try to install ambeserver and i digit:
sudo apt-get install ambeserver
But i have this message:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt-get install ambeserver
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package ambeserver

How can do ?
Thank you for Help
Marco - IK6IOQ


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

js3cop@...
 

Hallo John,
I downloaded AMBEserver.c. And I compiled it with gcc. I found a.out just under root. I ran it.
I am using DVstick 30, but is this caused by?
root @ debian: ~ #. / a.out
AMBEserver: Starting ...
AMBEserver: Opened serial port / dev / ttyUSB 0 at 230400 bps.
AMBEserver: Could not find start byte in serial data
AMBEserver: error receiving response to reset
AMBEserver: Could not initialize the DV3K!

Thanks


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

Shuji Chiba
 

Many thanks John.

I am 76 years old but  have to learn about Linux much much much more. LOL

Shu

 

From: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io [mailto:ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of John D Hays - K7VE
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:34 AM
To: ambe@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ambe] I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

 

You should be able to build it on any Linux or Unix system.  Compass is Raspbian which is a version of Debian. 

 

On older Raspbian a special kernel had to be created to support the UDRC's sound chip, which became Compass. This is not a requirement with newer Raspbian Stretch, and not needed at all for the ThumbDV and AMBEserver. 

 

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 15:05 Shuji Chiba <jo3klssc@...> wrote:

Hello Jhon,

 Unfortunately I do not have much knowledge of Linux. But  I am very interested in his question as well.

Once I build AMBEserver with Compass on Raspberry Pi Zero W, it works comfortably.

Does your advice mean that the OS of AMBEserver must be Compass? Is there a way to build AMBEserver with Debian?

73

 

Shu

JA3GQJ


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

js3cop@...
 

Thank you Jhon,
I am using Debian stretch. Actually I want to make it in CentOS.
I think that Ambe server and reflector will run on CentOS, but I think that it is easier to use Debian.
Because commands etc. are common with Raspbian.


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

js3cop@...
 

I found a way to make raspberry pi's Ambe server image with the URL below.
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe/wiki/home
Basically I think Raspbian is a derivative of Debian, so I can install it in Debian this way.
And what should you do the settings you taught?


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

 

You should be able to build it on any Linux or Unix system.  Compass is Raspbian which is a version of Debian. 

On older Raspbian a special kernel had to be created to support the UDRC's sound chip, which became Compass. This is not a requirement with newer Raspbian Stretch, and not needed at all for the ThumbDV and AMBEserver. 

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 15:05 Shuji Chiba <jo3klssc@...> wrote:

Hello Jhon,

 

Unfortunately I do not have much knowledge of Linux. But  I am very interested in his question as well.

Once I build AMBEserver with Compass on Raspberry Pi Zero W, it works comfortably.

Does your advice mean that the OS of AMBEserver must be Compass? Is there a way to build AMBEserver with Debian?

73

 

Shu

JA3GQJ


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

Shuji Chiba
 

Hello Jhon,

 

Unfortunately I do not have much knowledge of Linux. But  I am very interested in his question as well.

Once I build AMBEserver with Compass on Raspberry Pi Zero W, it works comfortably.

Does your advice mean that the OS of AMBEserver must be Compass? Is there a way to build AMBEserver with Debian?

73

 

Shu

JA3GQJ


Re: I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian.

 

There are two Ambeservers that run with BlueDV.  

Original AMBEserver is for Linux -- a quick build instruction is at https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe/wiki/AMBEserver-Addendum#Quick-Build-on-Linux
The author of BlueDV, created a version for Windows -- See http://software.pa7lim.nl/BlueDV-AMBEServer/

You can run AMBEserver on the network and access it from other programs over UDP.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 1:05 PM <js3cop@...> wrote:
I want to run BlueDV AMBE Server on Debian. I operate the reflector and the BlueDV AMBE Server with two raspberries pi. I want to operate these two with one Debian Server. Is this difficult for me? Today I installed the reflector on the Debian Server. After that I can only open various ports to Debian. However, I would like to set up BlueDV AMBE Server on this server. Is this difficult? If BlueDV AMBE works only on raspberry pi, or if the operation becomes unstable, is it better to move the raspberry pi OS virtually on Debian? However, I think that this plan is difficult because the OS of raspberry pi with BlueDV AMBE Server built in is available only with img. Is there a good idea?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE