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Re: newbie trouble

Gordon W Tippett
 

Hi Ken

You need to go into device manager check your ports make sure you know what com port number your is on and port settings your ThumbDV baud rate should be 460800 for a new one and 230400 an older one.

Once windows 10's port is set properly for the ThumbDV you'll have tell BlueDV for Windows what com port to look for and all of your other information it needs to know.

Wes

N3WZU


On 12/5/2017 22:23, Ken Jamrogowicz via Groups.Io wrote:
well - I must be doing something wrong.  I have tried BlueDV on two different PC's and it does not talk to my ThumbDV.
The thumbtest program says:  0AMBE3000R -   1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208
and I have tried BlueDV for Windows versions 1.0.0.9410 and 1.0.0.9452
OS is Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
What could be wrong? 

Ken

 



Re: newbie trouble

David Smith
 

Is the Thumbdv brand new? Is your internet connection high speed. Is the USB port supplying the right power. If you are daisy chaining it try direct connecting it. 
Also if Windows 10 1709 version might be Windows. Is BlueDV installed correctly?

I had a similar problem months ago. I finally had to ship it to Northwest digital. They found out the chip was bad and they sent me a new one. 

I have been using ever since and it works great. Try the steps I gave you 1st and see if it fixes it.

David Smith 

On Dec 6, 2017 5:57 AM, Gordon W Tippett <n3wzu1@...> wrote:

Hi Ken

You need to go into device manager check your ports make sure you know what com port number your is on and port settings your ThumbDV baud rate should be 460800 for a new one and 230400 an older one.

Once windows 10's port is set properly for the ThumbDV you'll have tell BlueDV for Windows what com port to look for and all of your other information it needs to know.

Wes

N3WZU


On 12/5/2017 22:23, Ken Jamrogowicz via Groups.Io wrote:
well - I must be doing something wrong.  I have tried BlueDV on two different PC's and it does not talk to my ThumbDV.
The thumbtest program says:  0AMBE3000R -   1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208
and I have tried BlueDV for Windows versions 1.0.0.9410 and 1.0.0.9452
OS is Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
What could be wrong? 

Ken

 




Re: newbie trouble

David Smith
 

By the way Ken,  Northwest Digital stands behind their product very well. I just saw Gordons response which
was also a very good response.

We hope you get it working. Just to let you know I have an Icom ID 51A I could use here locally through
the repeater we have in our local area. However I find myself using the ThumbDV 100 % of the time that is how
good it works when functioning right.

David Smith - KA5DJS

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 6:47 AM
Is the Thumbdv brand new? Is your internet connection high speed. Is the USB port supplying the right power. If you are daisy chaining it try direct connecting it. 
Also if Windows 10 1709 version might be Windows. Is BlueDV installed correctly?

I had a similar problem months ago. I finally had to ship it to Northwest digital. They found out the chip was bad and they sent me a new one. 

I have been using ever since and it works great. Try the steps I gave you 1st and see if it fixes it.

David Smith 



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Re: newbie trouble

Ken Jamrogowicz
 

Thanks for the replies guys. Operator error here.  I had the right com port (thumbtest worked remember) but I filled it in the wrong box on the setup.
Now the problem I have is that while I hear the "over-beeps" and connect/disconnect "boop" I don't get any audio when people are talking.
Or I get little random noises.  I could record them if that would help.
But, in any case, I am not getting voice out of my PC speakers. And when I click the PTT ("on the air" slider) it is seen to transmit for only about 1 second (as viewed from the receiving end).

The other thing I noticed is that sometimes I have to unplug and re-plug the device to get it to talk to the program (after a setup change for example).

I am wondering if the inability to make and decode audio might mean I have a bad device?

Full disclosure: I also run a Freestar homebrew repeater here on the same network, so there may be some port conflict issues ... although ... I have run the OpenSpot device here without problems on all three of its modes.  I have an internal reflector (does not go through the firewall) and I figured if I connect to that then no port conflicts should happen. 

Ken


Re: newbie trouble

David Smith
 

That is the same issue I was having. Send it in to NW Digital and have them check it out.
They found the chip to be defective and simply replaced it.

David Smith - KA5DJS

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:17 AM
Thanks for the replies guys. Operator error here.  I had the right com port (thumbtest worked remember) but I filled it in the wrong box on the setup.
Now the problem I have is that while I hear the "over-beeps" and connect/disconnect "boop" I don't get any audio when people are talking.
Or I get little random noises.  I could record them if that would help.
But, in any case, I am not getting voice out of my PC speakers. And when I click the PTT ("on the air" slider) it is seen to transmit for only about 1 second (as viewed from the receiving end).

The other thing I noticed is that sometimes I have to unplug and re-plug the device to get it to talk to the program (after a setup change for example).

I am wondering if the inability to make and decode audio might mean I have a bad device?

Full disclosure: I also run a Freestar homebrew repeater here on the same network, so there may be some port conflict issues ... although ... I have run the OpenSpot device here without problems on all three of its modes.  I have an internal reflector (does not go through the firewall) and I figured if I connect to that then no port conflicts should happen. 

Ken

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Re: newbie trouble

 

Do both LEDs flash?

Bryan K7UDR


Re: newbie trouble

kevin@...
 


I am new as well.  I have ambe server up and running and can connect with my android phone. Great product.  Was curious how to get the windows bluedv to attach to the ambe server across the network.  That way I can access the thumbdv remote with laptop.  


Re: newbie trouble

Patrice Quilici <f1hmr@...>
 

The red one


Le 6 décembre 2017 à 17:03:02, Bryan Hoyer (bhhoyer@...) a écrit:

Do both LEDs flash?

Bryan K7UDR




73’s F1HMR


Re: newbie trouble

Patrice Quilici <f1hmr@...>
 

The red one


Le 6 décembre 2017 à 17:03:02, Bryan Hoyer (bhhoyer@...) a écrit:

Do both LEDs flash?

Bryan K7UDR




73’s F1HMR


BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

 

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM


Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

Jose Manuel Martinez Barbera
 

nice work David!
when will be enable Fusion too??



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2017-12-08 16:45 GMT+00:00 David PA7LIM <info@...>:

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM



Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

David Smith
 

Hi David,

I am going to download this new one you posted. This program
just keeps getting better and better.

Cheers,

David Smith - KA5DJS

Friday, December 8, 2017 10:45 AM

Hi All,

Uploaded a new version of the BlueDV Windows 9457. Added some nice features for AMBE ( ThumbDV ).
Now you can lookup a call or lookup Talkgroup on Brandmeister and click on it to connect it. 



Have fun!
    David PA7LIM


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Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

mi0ceo_geo@...
 

Hi David 
Sorry to tell you that you have been sited in a divorce case here in N.Ireland that my wife has instigated naming you as a reason of the break down in our marriage.
The BlueDv for windows and ThumbDv is now the only way I use DMR or Dstar. This latest update has kept me away from my wife for 24hrs (thank you). The Brandmeister lookup has set the world of DMR,Dstar alight for me, marvelous. I have passed your software to all my friends and the response is phenomenal. Have a well earned rest and a Merry Christmas from everyone here in N.Ireland. Thanks again.

Best George MI0CEO 


Re: BlueDV for Windows new AMBE features

 

If your friends need to buy ThumbDVs, if they order 2 or more on the same order, to single address, use coupon code transcode for a discount.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:06 PM, <mi0ceo_geo@...> wrote:
Hi David 
Sorry to tell you that you have been sited in a divorce case here in N.Ireland that my wife has instigated naming you as a reason of the break down in our marriage.
The BlueDv for windows and ThumbDv is now the only way I use DMR or Dstar. This latest update has kept me away from my wife for 24hrs (thank you). The Brandmeister lookup has set the world of DMR,Dstar alight for me, marvelous. I have passed your software to all my friends and the response is phenomenal. Have a well earned rest and a Merry Christmas from everyone here in N.Ireland. Thanks again.

Best George MI0CEO 
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WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.


Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.




On Dec 10, 2017 05:09, "Chris Day" <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.
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Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

 

Hi Chris,

Yes this is related to the 3G/4G connection. Reflector and AMBEServer traffic is UDP so when a frame is dropped you will hear a gap. I am buffering a lot so I can deal with some jitter. The OTG version will give better quality because you only have reflector traffic left. Even when you miss some traffic, I am filling that up with white noise ( only DSTAR ).

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 10/12/2017 om 14:09 schreef Chris Day:

I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.


Re: OTG charging issue

kyle@...
 

This is of particular interest to me so I've been looking around for a possible solution.
Note that I've had the same issue finding an OTG adapter that will charge the phone (USB-C in my case) while allowing external devices to be connected. It has been frustrating to say the least. I did finally find one that works but the current to the phone is so low that it barely registers as a charge. The end result is that my phone's battery just drains more slowly. In any case, since my phone uses USB-C, if I do find such a cable, you couldn't use it anyway.

Here's a summary of what I've found so far for micro-USB devices:
1) Most OTG/"charge" cables provide OTG capabilities and "charge" the device connected to the other leg of the "Y", no current is sent to the phone/tablet
2) There are some OTG "powered hubs" that can charge the phone/tablet while providing power to the device(s) connected to the hub. However, this ability to charge both host and device simultaneously depends heavily on the particular phone/tablet in use. In the end, it appears to be trial and error for everyone out there.

I did find 2 devices that "may" work on your phone:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-3-Feet-Cable-External-Drive/dp/B0047AALS0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512940939&sr=8-1&keywords=startech+Y+cable
works on "some" tablets and "some" phones. You'll need a USB-A gender changer (female-to-female) to plug in the ThumbDV

https://www.banggood.com/3-USB-to-Micro-USB-OTG-Charge-HUB-Adapter-4-In-1-Charging-Universal-For-Samsung-For-Android-p-1202252.html?gmcCountry=US&currency=USD&createTmp=1&cur_warehouse=CN&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_elc&utm_content=zouzou&utm_campaign=pla-us-mpa-cc-pc
has a switch to change modes from OTG to Charge. However, on some devices, putting the switch in "Charge" mode allows the phone/tablet to charge AND the OTG continues to function.

One of these might be worth a try.

Good luck - keep us posted. To me, this is the holy grail (run everything from my Android phone)


Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

no

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
This is purely a networking problem.  What is important for voice over IP (including AMBE) is a factor called jitter.  Here is a test page, https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ -- see the jitter results (detail page).   Run this against your LAN and through your 4G network.  Dropouts can cause gaps in audio.




On Dec 10, 2017 05:09, "Chris Day" <ad4zu.fl@...> wrote:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.




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Re: WiFi vs. 3G/4G AMBEServer

Chris Day <ad4zu.fl@...>
 

Hi David,

Yes this is the 3G/4G on my end. The delays are quite long and the audio is slow and distorted. However, the app works great across wifi at my home, where I've run DSTAR and other nodes, even a full duplex Allstarlink repeater, for years.

What did you mean by the "OTG" version.

Thanks, 73 Chris

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, David PA7LIM <info@...> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yes this is related to the 3G/4G connection. Reflector and AMBEServer traffic is UDP so when a frame is dropped you will hear a gap. I am buffering a lot so I can deal with some jitter. The OTG version will give better quality because you only have reflector traffic left. Even when you miss some traffic, I am filling that up with white noise ( only DSTAR ).

Greets and 73,

David PA7LIM

Op 10/12/2017 om 14:09 schreef Chris Day:
I really like this setup. I note in my testing though that audio over 3G/4G is slow slightly broken. WiFi audio over my own network flawless. Has anyone else experienced this?  Wondering if this is purely related to my cellular carrier. Signal looks good from the local tower. Ultimately, I'd like to route back to the ThumbDV over the cell network, so if there's something I can do to address this, I'd like to know what it is.