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Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Dev Gosine
 

Thanks Jorge...will certainly do...73 de Dev, 9Y4DG


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 8:24 AM Jorge <ct1jib@... wrote:
Hi Dev,

If you are admin of XLX299 contact David ( info@...) and ask him to routing your ambeserver to xlx299 R.



On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 11:51, Dev Gosine <dgosine@...> wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion, but I already use BlueDV.

I would like to link XLX 299 Module R to Peanut so that anyone using Peanut would have access to that reflector.

Thanks again...Dev, 9Y4DG

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 7:34 AM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@... wrote:
Well then, just pop over to the play store and get BlueDV AMBE. That's the correct client app, not Peanut.



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Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Dev Gosine
 

Thanks Gwen...73 Dev, 9Y4DG..


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 8:38 AM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@... wrote:
Sorry, Dev, we're singing the same song as before...you didn't say what you wanted clearly enough. I didn't know you even HAD BlueDV. You only mentioned Peanut.

Jorge is right -- you'll have to contact David PA7LIM to coordinate that with him. He'll have to add your server into his network.

Sorry again that we seem to be having some difficulties communicating. I hope David can help you get that set up.

73,
Gwendolyn Patton, NG3P

Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Gwen Patton
 

Sorry, Dev, we're singing the same song as before...you didn't say what you wanted clearly enough. I didn't know you even HAD BlueDV. You only mentioned Peanut.

Jorge is right -- you'll have to contact David PA7LIM to coordinate that with him. He'll have to add your server into his network.

Sorry again that we seem to be having some difficulties communicating. I hope David can help you get that set up.

73,
Gwendolyn Patton, NG3P

Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Jorge
 

Hi Dev,

If you are admin of XLX299 contact David ( info@...) and ask him to routing your ambeserver to xlx299 R.



On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 11:51, Dev Gosine <dgosine@...> wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion, but I already use BlueDV.

I would like to link XLX 299 Module R to Peanut so that anyone using Peanut would have access to that reflector.

Thanks again...Dev, 9Y4DG

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 7:34 AM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@... wrote:
Well then, just pop over to the play store and get BlueDV AMBE. That's the correct client app, not Peanut.



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73's

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Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Dev Gosine
 

Thank you for your suggestion, but I already use BlueDV.

I would like to link XLX 299 Module R to Peanut so that anyone using Peanut would have access to that reflector.

Thanks again...Dev, 9Y4DG

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 7:34 AM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@... wrote:
Well then, just pop over to the play store and get BlueDV AMBE. That's the correct client app, not Peanut.

Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Gwen Patton
 

Well then, just pop over to the play store and get BlueDV AMBE. That's the correct client app, not Peanut.

Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Dev Gosine
 

Yes Sir...a ThumbDV is connected to the AMBE Server...

That's how I can work DMR and DSTAR from anywhere.

But I agree with you that I should have mentioned that in the original post.

Thank you for your response......73 de Dev, 9Y4DG.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 23:35, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:
Do you have an AMBE device connected to that Pi, like a ThumbDV? AMBEServer doesn't work by itself, I don't think. It needs an AMBE chip in a piece of hardware to do the coding and decoding. 

Peanut is a VERY limited app that runs on David PA7LIM's servers, on the reflectors he's configured. You can't change them, I don't think. You'd need your own AMBE device on that AMBEServer, and then BlueDV AMBE for Android to connect to it. You can use Peanut without a server of your own, you're just limited to the reflectors and rooms David set up. His servers have AMBE devices on them that handle the part you're missing.

I have a ThumbDV on a Pi running AMBEServer, and BlueDV AMBE on my phone and my Inrico T320, and it works just like you want. But unless you've got some hardware for AMBE you didn't include in that post, you're missing some pieces. Perhaps this? http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/thumbdv/

If I'm mistaken, anyone please chime in.

Gwen, NG3P



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Re: How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Gwen Patton
 

Do you have an AMBE device connected to that Pi, like a ThumbDV? AMBEServer doesn't work by itself, I don't think. It needs an AMBE chip in a piece of hardware to do the coding and decoding. 

Peanut is a VERY limited app that runs on David PA7LIM's servers, on the reflectors he's configured. You can't change them, I don't think. You'd need your own AMBE device on that AMBEServer, and then BlueDV AMBE for Android to connect to it. You can use Peanut without a server of your own, you're just limited to the reflectors and rooms David set up. His servers have AMBE devices on them that handle the part you're missing.

I have a ThumbDV on a Pi running AMBEServer, and BlueDV AMBE on my phone and my Inrico T320, and it works just like you want. But unless you've got some hardware for AMBE you didn't include in that post, you're missing some pieces. Perhaps this? http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/thumbdv/

If I'm mistaken, anyone please chime in.

Gwen, NG3P

How to link XLX 299 R to Peanut Using AMBEServer on Raspberry Pi #peanut. #ambe, #anbeserver

Dev Gosine
 

Good day,
                     Does any one know how the steps to get XLX 299 R on Peanut???

I already have a Raspbery Pi 3B+ running AMBE Server and it has its own hostname and IP address which can be accessed from anywhere on the planet.

This also makes DMR and DSTAR accessible from anywhere.

Thank you for any assistance....Dev, 9Y4DG

More photos PIDV USB

Flavio VE2ZFP
 


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Re: ThumbDV / ambed / AMBEServer reliability on Raspberry Pi 2 ?

Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI)
 

Hi,

Le 17/01/2019 à 18:09, John D Hays - K7VE a écrit :
As far as Raspberry Pi in general, many of these issues are power supply related, both voltage (there is a drop through many leads and current output.   I would review my power supply first.

Yes, I'm aware of power supply problems. I usually use commercial 5V power supplies, or DC-DC converters from 12V. Here, it's just a test setup. And in order to avoid power problems, I'm using two official Rspberry Foundation power supplies, with their attached power cord.

About USB cords, I really understood that when I bought a tiny USB voltmeter/ammeter on a famous Chines marketplace. This clearly shows USB cords are not equal. And even "branded" cords have very thin copper gauge, which generates huge voltage drops. I usually buy my USB cords from the brand "Aukey", which has serious 20AWG wires.

Then, it's not a power supply problem, and it's not a cord problem. And, as far as ambed and AMBEserver are two completely different software, I don't think it's a software problem.

I did not get much answer on the XLX forum. It seems several people are using second hand PCs. Anyway, as I want to connect it in my 42U rack in my data center housing, two PCs would take too much room. I'd like to install the two AMBE transcoders in a rackable 1U cabinet. That's why I'm trying to use them with mini-machines such as RPis

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I've just connected the two ThumbDVs through powered USB hubs. Let's see what happens ;-)

If it happens again, I'll try to find some error in the logs, which would allow me to track the problem more seriously than waiting for a few hours, and listening if audio is scrambled or not...

73 de TK1BI

Re: Converting the PIDV to USB #pidv

Dan Porter (AI2M)
 

I would be interested.

Dan - AI2M

On 17 Jan 2019, at 14:24, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:

We have thought about offering a trade-in program for a PiDV toward a ThumbDV.

It would probably be along the lines of order a ThumbDV  and we credit you a $TBD rebate upon receipt of your PiDV within 30 days.

Who would be interested in such an offer?

Re: Converting the PIDV to USB #pidv

VE3MIC
 

John, please count me in(if shipping the DV3000 is economical from up here)... I had big ideas about salvaging that AMBE chip and reusing it. 
73 de Mike


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 2:25 PM, John D Hays - K7VE
<john@...> wrote:

We have thought about offering a trade-in program for a PiDV toward a ThumbDV.

It would probably be along the lines of order a ThumbDV  and we credit you a $TBD rebate upon receipt of your PiDV within 30 days.

Who would be interested in such an offer?

Re: Converting the PIDV to USB #pidv

 

We have thought about offering a trade-in program for a PiDV toward a ThumbDV.

It would probably be along the lines of order a ThumbDV  and we credit you a $TBD rebate upon receipt of your PiDV within 30 days.

Who would be interested in such an offer?

Converting the PIDV to USB #pidv

Flavio VE2ZFP
 

I've uploaded an image to the group showing how to convert the PiDV to USB.
 It allows you the use it on either Raspberry Pi or Windows computers using the USB port instead of
the header on the RPI.

73 de VE2ZFP

PIDV USB convertion #pidv

Flavio VE2ZFP
 

People have been asking for the this.
If you like to post it.
 
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Re: ThumbDV / ambed / AMBEServer reliability on Raspberry Pi 2 ?

 

This is part of the reason on the DRAWS™ board we provide a 12VDC buck converter to power the Pi without lead loss.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:35 AM Eric Osterberg <ejosterberg@...> wrote:
I would second that comment about power supplies. Nearly every problem (rare) I've ever had with my many Pi computers can be boiled down to weak power supply or the USB cable that feeds power... Keep cables in mind. All my problems in the past 24 months have been cable related. Even 12" long cables I have used in the past have become the 'power limiting' defect. These same cables still test and work for many things, just not power. New trusted, well made, large gauge cables have fixed my issues.

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Re: ThumbDV / ambed / AMBEServer reliability on Raspberry Pi 2 ?

Eric Osterberg
 

I would second that comment about power supplies. Nearly every problem (rare) I've ever had with my many Pi computers can be boiled down to weak power supply or the USB cable that feeds power... Keep cables in mind. All my problems in the past 24 months have been cable related. Even 12" long cables I have used in the past have become the 'power limiting' defect. These same cables still test and work for many things, just not power. New trusted, well made, large gauge cables have fixed my issues.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:10 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The XLX folks do not recommend the Raspberry Pi for ambed.

As far as Raspberry Pi in general, many of these issues are power supply related, both voltage (there is a drop through many leads and current output.   I would review my power supply first.



On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:05 AM Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI) <t.ottavi@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm running twi different setups :
- ambed with two ThumbDVs on a Raspberry Pi 2 (for XLX)
- AMBEserver with one ThumbDV on another Raspberry Pi 2 (for DVSwitch Analog_Bridge)
Both seem to malfunction after a while : scrambled audio, no audio at all, timeout errors in the logs, etc... Rebooting the RPi solves the problem, but the problem may appear again  later.

All the machines (XLX server, Analog_bridge, and the two RPIs) are in the same data center, and on the same VLAN. So, this is not a network latency problem, nor a port opening issue. Also, power supplies are "official" Raspberry Pi ones.

Did someone already encounter such issues with RPi 2 ? As USB problems are frequent topics in the RPi world, I'm thinking about connecting ThumbDVs through powered USB hubs. Any other ideas ?

Thank you in advance. 73 de TK1BI




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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: ThumbDV / ambed / AMBEServer reliability on Raspberry Pi 2 ?

 

The XLX folks do not recommend the Raspberry Pi for ambed.

As far as Raspberry Pi in general, many of these issues are power supply related, both voltage (there is a drop through many leads and current output.   I would review my power supply first.



On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:05 AM Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI) <t.ottavi@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm running twi different setups :
- ambed with two ThumbDVs on a Raspberry Pi 2 (for XLX)
- AMBEserver with one ThumbDV on another Raspberry Pi 2 (for DVSwitch Analog_Bridge)
Both seem to malfunction after a while : scrambled audio, no audio at all, timeout errors in the logs, etc... Rebooting the RPi solves the problem, but the problem may appear again  later.

All the machines (XLX server, Analog_bridge, and the two RPIs) are in the same data center, and on the same VLAN. So, this is not a network latency problem, nor a port opening issue. Also, power supplies are "official" Raspberry Pi ones.

Did someone already encounter such issues with RPi 2 ? As USB problems are frequent topics in the RPi world, I'm thinking about connecting ThumbDVs through powered USB hubs. Any other ideas ?

Thank you in advance. 73 de TK1BI




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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: ThumbDV / ambed / AMBEServer reliability on Raspberry Pi 2 ?

Kenny Richards
 

Santu,

As another data point, I've had AMBEServer running on a Raspberry Pi 2 for months at a time without any issues. I typically only have a single instance of Buster (Mac client) connected and it is running all the time since I use it to monitor my DSTAR repeater.

73,
Kenny, KU7M