Re: Codec2
"David Lake (dlake)" <dlake@...>
"What concerns me more is the (political) resistance to allowing
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interoperability/gateways between systems." Now.... Article 1.56 of the ITU Radio Regulations define amateur service as "A Radiocommunication service for the purpose of self-training, intercommunications and technical investigations carried out by amateurs, that is by duly authorized persons interested in radio technique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest." That sounds pretty clear to me. Intercommunication, technical investigations, no pecuniary interest. BTW, you have not mentioned Motorola. So far, they are the worst offender and they have bite. Icom are trying to be open and so far, things have gone pretty well with them (especially Icom US). It's early days for Yaesu. Hardware is only half the battle - software and protocols are needed to interconnect the hardware. Both parts are important, and that is what I hope this group manages to achieve. David
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From: UniversalDigitalRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:UniversalDigitalRadio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dnolder@...m Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:52 PM To: UniversalDigitalRadio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [UniversalDigitalRadio] Re: Codec2 "this is something that should have been done ten years ago" QFT Unfortunately it wasn't, and that the biggest issue I have with the development of D-Star. Having said that, Amateur Radio is already a splintered hobby with many niches, so it's nothing new. What concerns me more is the (political) resistance to allowing interoperability/gateways between systems. The transcoding, gateways and transports themselves are all relatively minor feats in comparison. All it takes is "someone" saying they won't allow gating from IRLP to Echolink, Echolink to D-Star, or P25 to whatever, and a segment becomes isolated. We're our own worst enemy and we'll pay for it in real dollars. I don't want to have to take three HT with me when I leave the house, or have a rack of three mobile rigs in the car. I also don't want my investment in D-Star to become worthless. The Icom/Yaesu situation is a classic. Can you imagine a CW/AM/SSB/FM transceiver that would only work with another transceiver of the same brand? That's effectively what we're talking about. I really think hardware is the key. An extensible, fully open, software defined, HT, mobile and base with enough processing power on-board to handle whatever is required, even if it has to have an AMBE chip sitting to the side for backwards compatibility. Give the developers the platform and let them have at it. Icom is the incumbent with the monopoly. Yeasu has played the FUD card with their "Digital Vision" document and the subsequent presentation of their solution at Dayton. We'll be the ones that pay if we play the game. --- In UniversalDigitalRadio@yahoogroups.com, Perry Chamberlain <canoeman@...> wrote: and is cool amateur radio engineering, the hundreds, and hundreds of thousands of dollars that has been spent on the AMBE CODEC EMBEDED equipment, is a massive barrier to this ever changing the Dstar system. And why yaesu, has decided to come out with yet another digital mode, is baffling. ( just a note, I own 6 yeasu radios, so I am a yaesu fan) But, thatschoose a common codec. I'm financially entrenched in Icom D-star now, so I'm locked in. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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