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Re: Compass & DRAWS

ml000-0013@...
 

  Is this procedure still the current way to add UDRC packages to Raspbian?

  https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/compass/wiki/Compass-Linux-Packages-on-Other-Debian-Based-Systems

  Would this be compatible with releases of Raspbian newer than Jessie (i.e. Stretch), or is this a YMMV situation?

  Thanks
  Mike

Re: Compass & DRAWS

 


The image for DRAWS will be based on this version of Compass and will be the best place to start, after the DRAWS image is released.  From that point forward you will be able to update Raaspbian packages directly,

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:56 PM <ml000-0013@...> wrote:
  Is this procedure still the current way to add UDRC packages to Raspbian?

  https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/compass/wiki/Compass-Linux-Packages-on-Other-Debian-Based-Systems

  Would this be compatible with releases of Raspbian newer than Jessie (i.e. Stretch), or is this a YMMV situation?

  Thanks
  Mike



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Specs on DRAWS accessory port?

Steve Stroh
 

Could you provide more details on the accessory port of DRAWS such as whether the serial port is TTL levels or RS-232 levels (I’ll guess the former)?

And what are the specs of the analog input port?

Thanks!
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Re: DRAWS

Chris - KC9AD
 

Jeff,

 

Assuming that the DRAWS will operate similarly to the existing RPi/UDRC-II kit:

 

I know that there are many RPi/UDRC users who are using it for APRS running XASTIR. Personally, my primary interests are twofold:

1-     Running Fldigi in FSQ-6 mode and/or MT63 mode for local simplex digital comms.

2-     Running DireWolf to make the DRAWS into a network-attached TNC so that I can run RMS Express on my network-attached Windows PC.

73

Chris KC9AD

 

Re: DRAWS

 

In addition to FSQ I plan to add in FT8Call as an option for my portable station.

73, tom w7sua

On 9/22/2018 9:52 AM, Chris - KC9AD wrote:
Jeff,
Assuming that the DRAWS will operate similarly to the existing RPi/UDRC-II kit:
I know that there are many RPi/UDRC users who are using it for APRS running XASTIR. Personally, my primary interests are twofold:
1- Running Fldigi in FSQ-6 mode and/or MT63 mode for local simplex digital comms.
2- Running DireWolf to make the DRAWS into a network-attached TNC so that I can run RMS Express on my network-attached Windows PC.
73
Chris KC9AD

Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Early Adopters Pre-Sale for the Digital Radio Amateur Workstation - DRAWS

Walter Holmes K5WH
 

Any information about which digital voice modes will be available via the Hotspot feature?

 

Many thanks,

 

Walter/K5WH

 

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Subject: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Early Adopters Pre-Sale for the Digital Radio Amateur Workstation - DRAWS

 

DRAWS - Raspberry Pi HAT

image.png


[The boards will be run in the next couple of weeks, this is an opportunity to order early and save $20 on the board, and $5 on the GPS LNA Antenna]

HW Features: 

• Raspberry Pi 3 Compliant HAT 

• Power HAT and Pi from 6-15VDC 

• Onboard Voltage Monitor 

• 2 Radio Interfaces 

• Mini DIN-6 Connectors 

• Cables Included 

• On Board GPS 

• Optional External Antenna w/LNA 

• PPS for Stratum 1 Time Source 

• Battery Backed Real Time Clock 

• Accessory Port 

• PWR, IO, Serial Port, Analog In 

 

Operating Modes: 

• Headless, operate from your Computer 

• Network Attach or VNC 

• Workstation, operate locally by adding 

• HDMI Monitor 

• USB Keyboard & Mouse 

 

Open Source Software: 

DRAWS™ self identifies to the OS for configuration. An image will be available on release with popular applications pre-installed, including: 

• Packet 

• DIREWOLF 1200/9600 

• APRS, WinLink, ARDOP 

• Soundcard Digital 

• FLDIGI, WSJT-X 

• Digital Voice Repeater/Hotspot



Order at  http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/draws-digital-radio-amateur-workstation/

For those who were not in attendance at DCC or the NWAPRS Summer Gathering, NW Digital Radio will be offering a tiered roll out of the DRAWS product.

Individual components such as the DRAWS HAT, GPS LNA Antenna, Metal Case, Pre-loaded SD Card, ... will be available for purchase independently. 

The initial offering will be only for the HAT and optional antenna.  Other offerings will roll out over the 4th quarter.

There will also be an offer for a complete, assembled system with all components integrated in a single package.

Specific bundles (e.g. everything but the Raspberry Pi) may be offered as well.

 


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA

K7VE

 

   

 

Re: Specs on DRAWS accessory port?

 

Hi Steve,

I’m working on page 2 of the brochure which has all the details but briefly all IO is 0-3.3V. 5Vdc is also provided.

On Sep 22, 2018, at 3:51 AM, Steve Stroh <steve.stroh@...> wrote:

Could you provide more details on the accessory port of DRAWS such as whether the serial port is TTL levels or RS-232 levels (I’ll guess the former)?

And what are the specs of the analog input port?

Thanks!
,_._,_


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Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@...

"... this report of my death was an exaggeration." -- Mark Twain 1897

 


It was reported to me that someone on the International D-STAR net said that the ThumbDV was going out of production.  THIS IS NOT TRUE.

The ThumbDV is on sale for $99.95 on existing stock. NW Digital Radio is continuing the ThumbDV.  See http://nwdigitalradio.com/thumbdv-clearance-sale/ for details.  If you miss the sale, there is no functional difference, but the new batch will be back at full price.

It is best to go the source for information.

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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: [DVSwitch] Early Adopters Pre-Sale for the Digital Radio Amateur Workstation - DRAWS

 

John,


Nice product, why not make the little unit compatible with other SBCs other than Rasberry Pi?  Maybe an added usb port to interface would make the unit interface with many SBCs and making sales go up even more?


Will / W4WWM


On 9/21/2018 3:52 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
DRAWS - Raspberry Pi HAT

image.png

[The boards will be run in the next couple of weeks, this is an opportunity to order early and save $20 on the board, and $5 on the GPS LNA Antenna]

HW Features: 
• Raspberry Pi 3 Compliant HAT 
• Power HAT and Pi from 6-15VDC 
• Onboard Voltage Monitor 
• 2 Radio Interfaces 
• Mini DIN-6 Connectors 
• Cables Included 
• On Board GPS 
• Optional External Antenna w/LNA 
• PPS for Stratum 1 Time Source 
• Battery Backed Real Time Clock 
• Accessory Port 
• PWR, IO, Serial Port, Analog In 

Operating Modes: 
• Headless, operate from your Computer 
• Network Attach or VNC 
• Workstation, operate locally by adding 
• HDMI Monitor 
• USB Keyboard & Mouse 

Open Source Software: 
DRAWS™ self identifies to the OS for configuration. An image will be available on release with popular applications pre-installed, including: 
• Packet 
• DIREWOLF 1200/9600 
• APRS, WinLink, ARDOP 
• Soundcard Digital 
• FLDIGI, WSJT-X 
• Digital Voice Repeater/Hotspot


Order at  http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/draws-digital-radio-amateur-workstation/

For those who were not in attendance at DCC or the NWAPRS Summer Gathering, NW Digital Radio will be offering a tiered roll out of the DRAWS product.

Individual components such as the DRAWS HAT, GPS LNA Antenna, Metal Case, Pre-loaded SD Card, ... will be available for purchase independently. 

The initial offering will be only for the HAT and optional antenna.  Other offerings will roll out over the 4th quarter.

There will also be an offer for a complete, assembled system with all components integrated in a single package.

Specific bundles (e.g. everything but the Raspberry Pi) may be offered as well.



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: [DVSwitch] Early Adopters Pre-Sale for the Digital Radio Amateur Workstation - DRAWS

 

Will,

It uses some of the GPIO busses and pins. These are not compatible across SBCs. A lot of the capability is due to the use of this functionality and would be limited by making it a USB device. 

Raspberry Pi has sufficient computing for the applications we are designing for and there are millions of them deployed. They are inexpensive and have active development and community.

Our development and support costs go up with more platforms.

We are going to offer the DRAWS as a complete and integrated unit to drop into a station, at which point the SBC is just a part of the solution. We prefer to focus our efforts on this 


On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 19:11 Will - W4WWM <w4wwm@...> wrote:

John,


Nice product, why not make the little unit compatible with other SBCs other than Rasberry Pi?  Maybe an added usb port to interface would make the unit interface with many SBCs and making sales go up even more?


Will / W4WWM


On 9/21/2018 3:52 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
DRAWS - Raspberry Pi HAT



[The boards will be run in the next couple of weeks, this is an opportunity to order early and save $20 on the board, and $5 on the GPS LNA Antenna]

HW Features: 
• Raspberry Pi 3 Compliant HAT 
• Power HAT and Pi from 6-15VDC 
• Onboard Voltage Monitor 
• 2 Radio Interfaces 
• Mini DIN-6 Connectors 
• Cables Included 
• On Board GPS 
• Optional External Antenna w/LNA 
• PPS for Stratum 1 Time Source 
• Battery Backed Real Time Clock 
• Accessory Port 
• PWR, IO, Serial Port, Analog In 

Operating Modes: 
• Headless, operate from your Computer 
• Network Attach or VNC 
• Workstation, operate locally by adding 
• HDMI Monitor 
• USB Keyboard & Mouse 

Open Source Software: 
DRAWS™ self identifies to the OS for configuration. An image will be available on release with popular applications pre-installed, including: 
• Packet 
• DIREWOLF 1200/9600 
• APRS, WinLink, ARDOP 
• Soundcard Digital 
• FLDIGI, WSJT-X 
• Digital Voice Repeater/Hotspot


Order at  http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/draws-digital-radio-amateur-workstation/

For those who were not in attendance at DCC or the NWAPRS Summer Gathering, NW Digital Radio will be offering a tiered roll out of the DRAWS product.

Individual components such as the DRAWS HAT, GPS LNA Antenna, Metal Case, Pre-loaded SD Card, ... will be available for purchase independently. 

The initial offering will be only for the HAT and optional antenna.  Other offerings will roll out over the 4th quarter.

There will also be an offer for a complete, assembled system with all components integrated in a single package.

Specific bundles (e.g. everything but the Raspberry Pi) may be offered as well.



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


What is DRAWS

 


See new blog post at:

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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: [DVSwitch] Early Adopters Pre-Sale for the Digital Radio Amateur Workstation - DRAWS

 

Jason, thanks for recording the conference.  I am looking forward to watching the talks.


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:58 AM Jason Johnston <kc5hwb@...> wrote:
I saw and recorded the excellent DRAWS presentation at this year's TAPR DCC.  Look for it to post soon here:  https://www.youtube.com/c/hamradio20

About to order one of these boards also, thanks for copying me.


photo
Jason Johnston
KC5HWB, Ham Radio 2.0

817-601-7228 | jason@...

www.HamRadio2.com

  

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:36 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Will,

It uses some of the GPIO busses and pins. These are not compatible across SBCs. A lot of the capability is due to the use of this functionality and would be limited by making it a USB device. 

Raspberry Pi has sufficient computing for the applications we are designing for and there are millions of them deployed. They are inexpensive and have active development and community.

Our development and support costs go up with more platforms.

We are going to offer the DRAWS as a complete and integrated unit to drop into a station, at which point the SBC is just a part of the solution. We prefer to focus our efforts on this 


On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 19:11 Will - W4WWM <w4wwm@...> wrote:

John,


Nice product, why not make the little unit compatible with other SBCs other than Rasberry Pi?  Maybe an added usb port to interface would make the unit interface with many SBCs and making sales go up even more?


Will / W4WWM


On 9/21/2018 3:52 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
DRAWS - Raspberry Pi HAT

image.png

[The boards will be run in the next couple of weeks, this is an opportunity to order early and save $20 on the board, and $5 on the GPS LNA Antenna]

HW Features: 
• Raspberry Pi 3 Compliant HAT 
• Power HAT and Pi from 6-15VDC 
• Onboard Voltage Monitor 
• 2 Radio Interfaces 
• Mini DIN-6 Connectors 
• Cables Included 
• On Board GPS 
• Optional External Antenna w/LNA 
• PPS for Stratum 1 Time Source 
• Battery Backed Real Time Clock 
• Accessory Port 
• PWR, IO, Serial Port, Analog In 

Operating Modes: 
• Headless, operate from your Computer 
• Network Attach or VNC 
• Workstation, operate locally by adding 
• HDMI Monitor 
• USB Keyboard & Mouse 

Open Source Software: 
DRAWS™ self identifies to the OS for configuration. An image will be available on release with popular applications pre-installed, including: 
• Packet 
• DIREWOLF 1200/9600 
• APRS, WinLink, ARDOP 
• Soundcard Digital 
• FLDIGI, WSJT-X 
• Digital Voice Repeater/Hotspot


Order at  http://nwdigitalradio.com/product/draws-digital-radio-amateur-workstation/

For those who were not in attendance at DCC or the NWAPRS Summer Gathering, NW Digital Radio will be offering a tiered roll out of the DRAWS product.

Individual components such as the DRAWS HAT, GPS LNA Antenna, Metal Case, Pre-loaded SD Card, ... will be available for purchase independently. 

The initial offering will be only for the HAT and optional antenna.  Other offerings will roll out over the 4th quarter.

There will also be an offer for a complete, assembled system with all components integrated in a single package.

Specific bundles (e.g. everything but the Raspberry Pi) may be offered as well.



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


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73 de
Jason - KC5HWB



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: DRAWS

kc7pmu
 
Edited

In light of the article in QST, Oct 2018, "The WSJT-X Appliance" ( page 44) that states the Raspberry Pi does not have sufficient performance to run the FT8 and FT8Call protocols, have you test results on prototypes that would contradict this article?

Re: DRAWS

 

I haven't read the QST article yet -- however, I have successfully run WSJT-X using the CODEC on the DRAWS board on Raspberry Pi 3


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:26 AM <kc7pmu@...> wrote:
In light of the article in QST, Oct 2918, "The WSJT-X Appliance" ( page 44) that states the Raspberry Pi does not have sufficient performance to run the FT8 and FT8Call protocols, have you test results on prototypes that would contradict this article?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

DRAWS Technical Documents

 

Re: DRAWS Technical Documents

Steve Stroh
 

Must this be on a site that requires a login? Why not just post in on the main NWDR site as part of the priduct info?

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 16:39 John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/files/DRAWSTech.pdf

 

Schematic and pinout documentation.

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Re: DRAWS Technical Documents

Michael Barnes <barnes9443@...>
 

If you are receiving this email, then you already have a login on the groups.io website. You had to sign up to join this forum. So, what's the issue? It's the same place the various other files related to NWDR are posted.

Michael WA7SKG


Steve Stroh wrote on 09/25/2018 04:43 PM:

Must this be on a site that requires a login? Why not just post in on the main NWDR site as part of the priduct info?
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 16:39 John D Hays - K7VE <@john_hays <mailto:@john_hays>> wrote:
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/files/DRAWSTech.pdf
Schematic and pinout documentation.
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Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@... <mailto:stevestroh@...>

Re: DRAWS

 

Frankly, that is one person's experience/opinion.  As I stated earlier, my experience with WSJT-X on the Raspberry Pi, with the CODEC used in the DRAWS, is that FT-8 runs fine.   This also seems to be the experience of those in this thread. https://groups.io/g/ft8call/topic/26219896#533

Two points --


"What technical support is provided for DRAWS?

NW Digital Radio supports the DRAWS HAT hardware and its driver software.  All other applications are provided on an ‘as is’ basis, with support for configuration and operation of those applications provided by the authors and user community for those applications.  NW Digital Radio’s DRAWS HAT driver and configuration is Open Source Software and is free for amateur radio use."

  • Secondly, NW Digital Radio has a generous Warranty 


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:21 AM <kc7pmu@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

In light of the article in QST, Oct 2018, "The WSJT-X Appliance" ( page 44) that states the Raspberry Pi does not have sufficient performance to run the FT8 and FT8Call protocols, have you test results on prototypes that would contradict this article?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: DRAWS

 

NW Digital Radio has both a 1 year warranty and a 30 day money-back guarantee on all of it’s products.

Bryan K7UDR

Re: DRAWS

WW3N <squeeze.box@...>
 

Gwen,
Did you ever get a functional description document, youtube, powerpoint, smoke signals  on Draws from anyone?   Oct QST or the schematic posted to groups.io  doesn’t do it for me.. Maybe there is a West Coast secret club keeping the East Coast folks in the dark.. Sorry in advance for being so thick….

Dan ww3n