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Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

john.chabalko@...
 

Something you could try to narrow it down - although i doubt it'll show much - is to disconnect the radio from the pi, run fldigi for a period of time and see if it goes unresponsive, and then depending on what happens, remove the DRAWs hat from the pi and try running fldigi with and without the radio connected.

What version of fldigi are you using and which raspberry pi are you using? I've got 4.1.01 on mine - which appears to be the latest, i'm pretty sure i've updated it since i burned the disk image though.

DRAWs hat audio not working after Rpi update

john.chabalko@...
 

I ran a late night dist-upgrade last night on my card running the draws image (i know, i know)

Everything appears to work correctly except each of the programs that use audio are complaining of no input audio. When i navigate into the settings input and output audio are both blank. I can select output audio (plugw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0) but the dropdown for input audio isn't populated with anything. CAT control, and everything else, seems to work fine.

I'm running at FT-891 connected via USB and DRAWs audio. The Rpi is a 3b+

I'm going to do some more troubleshooting later tonight, i figured i'd post this here in case it's a softball for anyone.

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ uname -a
Linux n3ap-p 4.14.98-v7+ #1200 SMP Tue Feb 12 20:27:48 GMT 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ cat /etc/rpi-issue
Raspberry Pi reference 2018-11-18
Generated using pi-gen, https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen, d97b63d78128a6160ab3d209135de5b34096ef25, stage4

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], device 0: bcm2835 ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA]
  Subdevices: 7/7
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
card 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], device 1: bcm2835 ALSA [bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Re: DRAWs hat audio not working after Rpi update

john.chabalko@...
 

1 more:

appi@n3ap-p:~ $ aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA
    Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA
    Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI
    Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA
    Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI
    Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA
    Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1
    bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI
    Hardware device with all software conversions

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

KeithG [KG1MD]
 

I’m using a RPI 3 B+
After running the updater, it tells me that fldigi will be updated to 4.1.01, but that never happens.  I’ve run the updater several times.  Is there a step I’m missing?

I will disconnect the rig and see if fldigi continues to run.

Tnx again!

Keith. KG1MD 

On Apr 10, 2019, at 9:59 PM, "john.chabalko@..." <john.chabalko@...> wrote:

Something you could try to narrow it down - although i doubt it'll show much - is to disconnect the radio from the pi, run fldigi for a period of time and see if it goes unresponsive, and then depending on what happens, remove the DRAWs hat from the pi and try running fldigi with and without the radio connected.

What version of fldigi are you using and which raspberry pi are you using? I've got 4.1.01 on mine - which appears to be the latest, i'm pretty sure i've updated it since i burned the disk image though.

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

john.chabalko@...
 

I’m new to the raspberry pi too but I think you’ve got to initiate the update yourself, or at least you could check

Assuming your rip is connected to the internet, 
Shut down fldigi, and then in a terminal window type:
sudo apt-get upgrade fldigi 

answer yes (or hit enter) and you’ll get the update.

once it’s done you can reopen it. 

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

KeithG [KG1MD]
 

I’ll try that tomorrow.  Thank you!

On Apr 10, 2019, at 10:48 PM, "john.chabalko@..." <john.chabalko@...> wrote:

I’m new to the raspberry pi too but I think you’ve got to initiate the update yourself, or at least you could check

Assuming your rip is connected to the internet, 
Shut down fldigi, and then in a terminal window type:
sudo apt-get upgrade fldigi 

answer yes (or hit enter) and you’ll get the update.

once it’s done you can reopen it. 

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 

Stick with the beta images and pre-installed applications using the startup instructions from Basil. Once you have a working install, then you can experiment with updates and changes. 


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:54 KeithG [KG1MD] <keithgold@...> wrote:
I’ll try that tomorrow.  Thank you!

On Apr 10, 2019, at 10:48 PM, "john.chabalko@..." <john.chabalko@...> wrote:

I’m new to the raspberry pi too but I think you’ve got to initiate the update yourself, or at least you could check

Assuming your rip is connected to the internet, 
Shut down fldigi, and then in a terminal window type:
sudo apt-get upgrade fldigi 

answer yes (or hit enter) and you’ll get the update.

once it’s done you can reopen it. 

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

john.chabalko@...
 

I have the same rig and have had it working great (until tonight when i ran a dist-upgrade ;) )

There's an FT-891 menu setup that you need to configure that i think will fix your transmit audio problem.
Menu 08-09: Data In Select: REAR

That should use the rear data port for audio, yours is probably set to "mic" which is the default i think.

Since mine isn't working at the moment because i'm rebuilding it i'm using my notes - but the audio devices i was using were:
Input: plughw:CARD=udrc,DEV=0 (mono)
Output: plughw:CARD=udrc,DEV=0 (mono)

I'm using the same port you are (next to the GPS port).

I don't know the peak to peak voltage but i'd been running mine with the program defaults and it was working fine, i hadn't been able to spend much time yet fine tuning it.

Re: DRAWs hat audio not working after Rpi update

Basil Gunn
 

You probably installed a competing tlv320aic32x4 driver from audiosense. Anna has fixed
that for future kernel releases.

update to latest scripts by doing this:
cd
cd n7nix
git pull

# The following script should remove the conflict, reboot after running it.
# This script is in the ~/n7nix/bin directory
cd bin
./chk_conflict.sh


If you need further help run & paste the output of showudrc.sh in an email to me.

~/n7nix/bin/showudrc.sh

If you want to update programs on your image run:
cd
cd n7nix/bin
./prog_refresh.sh

/Basil n7nix

john.chabalko@... writes:

I ran a late night dist-upgrade last night on my card running the draws image (i know, i know)

Everything appears to work correctly except each of the programs that use audio are complaining of no input audio. When i navigate into the settings input and output audio are both blank. I can select output audio (plugw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0) but the dropdown for input audio isn't populated with anything. CAT control, and everything else, seems to work fine.

I'm running at FT-891 connected via USB and DRAWs audio. The Rpi is a 3b+

I'm going to do some more troubleshooting later tonight, i figured i'd post this here in case it's a softball for anyone.

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ uname -a
Linux n3ap-p 4.14.98-v7+ #1200 SMP Tue Feb 12 20:27:48 GMT 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ cat /etc/rpi-issue
Raspberry Pi reference 2018-11-18
Generated using pi-gen, https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen, d97b63d78128a6160ab3d209135de5b34096ef25, stage4

pi@n3ap-p:/boot $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], device 0: bcm2835 ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA]
Subdevices: 7/7
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
card 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], device 1: bcm2835 ALSA [bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Basil Gunn
 

Look here:
https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/n7nix/blob/master/docs/IMAGE_README.md

Look for fldigi. I do not install it from a package because for Raspbian
stretch that will install fldigi version 3.23.14-1. I am currently
building & installing version 4.1.01

If you want to update to the latest versions first update the scripts
like this:

cd
cd n7nix
git pull

# Then run the update script in ~/n7nix/bin

cd bin
./prog_refresh.sh

/Basil n7nix

I’ll try that tomorrow. Thank you!

On Apr 10, 2019, at 10:48 PM, "john.chabalko@...<mailto:john.chabalko@...>" <john.chabalko@...<mailto:john.chabalko@...>> wrote:

I’m new to the raspberry pi too but I think you’ve got to initiate the update yourself, or at least you could check

Assuming your rip is connected to the internet,
Shut down fldigi, and then in a terminal window type:
sudo apt-get upgrade fldigi

answer yes (or hit enter) and you’ll get the update.

once it’s done you can reopen it.


Re: DRAWs hat audio not working after Rpi update

john.chabalko@...
 

Looks like that was it, thanks a lot Basil.

It's great you guys have these utilities ready to go. I'm going to spend some time in the n7nix/bin directory one of these evenings - and hopefully not bother you any more ;)

73

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Julian OH8STN <julian@...>
 

Hi Steve.
Just to be clear, I have never gotten the Yaesu ft-891 to work well with the DRAWS hat. It works, but not without lots of noise. So weak signal digital work on HF isn't possible at the moment. I'm sure it's just the levels, but the perfect configuration has been on a unobtainable. Like you I have a working system with both the zlp miniproSC and Wolphilink.

Pulling Pin 6 is necessary. 
Johns comment about the menu setting would make sense if you didn't already have the signalink working. If you have the rear Port selected already, you may be experiencing the same noise as I have on the DRAWS hat, with the ft-891. I'm very suspicious of Johns comment regarding the ft-891 working "well" with the DRAWS hat. Like I said "it works", but its not nearly as quiet, or as simple to get the levels right as the Signalink, Zlp miniproSC or wolphilink with a usb soundcard. 

I'm sorry I never finished that thread with the ft-891. I was so frustrated, I needed to put everything down, let the documentation and beta images mature, then come back to it. I'm hoping beta 10 will be the one. Other than those very finicky levels, everything else works really well. The GPS, external power, the software packages, ...

73
Julian oh8stn 


Julian OH8STN
www.oh8stn.org
www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN

On 11 Apr 2019 01:15, Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Trying to get WSJT-X working for the next video. Details First, Questions at the end.

Radio: Yaesu FT-891
CAT control works over USB
Radio connected via LEFT Audio port (closest to GPS port)
RIGHT Audio port disabled via DRAWS Manager
I’ve ran `sudo bin/setalsa-ft817.sh`

Audio Input of `sysdefault:CARD=udrc/Mono` works fine and I’m decoding signals

I am unable to find an audio output setting that does anything.  Valid choices are:

default
sysdefault:card=alsa
sysdefault:card=udrc
hw:card=alsa,dev=0
plughw:card=alsa,dev=0
plughw:card=alsa,dev=1
plughw:card=udrc,dev=0

This radio works fine with a separate signalink and linux PC.

The FT-891 manuals do not specify what the “Peak to Peak Input Voltage” is, so I can not complete the calculations.

It appears that when the software triggers the PTT, that ambient shack noise is being transmitted instead of the audio/data stream from the DRAWS. (I can't whistle FT8 yet, but I'm getting close)

I have not pulled out pin 6 yet, the prev thread with Julian didn’t conclude if that was necessary or not.

Questions:
  1. What is the Peak to Peak Input Voltage of the FT-891
  2. What is the proper sound output device
  3. Any suggestions for what might be missing or what to try next?
73s,
Steve, KM9G

fusion on bluedv #thumbdv

mike W8VPC
 

Hello,

Was wondering if fusion is working on DV3000 with bluedv yet?
I searched for posts however, nothing posted lately.

Tnx
Mike W8VPC

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Julian OH8STN <julian@...>
 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.
Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.
73
Julian oh8stn 

Julian OH8STN
www.oh8stn.org
www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN

Re: fusion on bluedv #thumbdv

 

That would be a question for info@... -- also David frequents the AMBE subgroup  https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe

The ThumbDV provides AMBE encoding/decoding but the various protocols (D-STAR, Fusion, DMR, ...) are handled by applications like BlueDV.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:37 AM mike W8VPC <mjc4502@...> wrote:
Hello,

Was wondering if fusion is working on DV3000 with bluedv yet?
I searched for posts however, nothing posted lately.

Tnx
Mike W8VPC



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Jack Spitznagel
 

The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Julian OH8STN
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.

Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.

73

Julian oh8stn 

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jack Spitznagel <kd4iz@...> wrote:

The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Julian OH8STN
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.

Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.

73

Julian oh8stn 



--


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

John Amdor III
 

After making my own cable to connect an IC-706 to the DRAWS, I think the hammadeparts.com cable is worth the price.

John K0MXL

On 4/11/19 4:29 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
Ham Made Parts makes a cable - https://hammadeparts.com/shop-for-cables?olsPage=products%2Ficom-13-pin-din-acc-port-to-nw-digital-draws-hat-6-pin-mini-din-packet-port-plug&page=3&sortOption=ascend_by_name
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg <mailto:@flyingfrawg>> wrote:
The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create
an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If
you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for
the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.____
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*KD4IZ____*
*Jack Spitznagel____*
*FM19oo____*
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*From:* main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
<main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Julian OH8STN
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
*To:* main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi____
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It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card
(audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You
must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the
7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after
its configuration.____
Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.____
73____
Julian oh8stn ____
Julian OH8STN
www.oh8stn.org <http://www.oh8stn.org>
www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN <http://www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN>____
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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>

Kenwood TM-281a Cable

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

I'm looking to make a cable for my 281 so I can get APRS up and running. 

Here are my thoughts:

DIN PIN   Purpose Radio PIN
1         AFIN     6               
2         GND      5 
3         PTT      4               
4         DISCOUT  N/C               
5         AFOUT    Rear Speaker Ring
6         SQL      N/C

Kenwood Mic Cable:
image.png

How does that look to yous guys?

- Steve, KM9G

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

john.chabalko@...
 

I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)