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fusion on bluedv #thumbdv

mike W8VPC
 

Hello,

Was wondering if fusion is working on DV3000 with bluedv yet?
I searched for posts however, nothing posted lately.

Tnx
Mike W8VPC

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Julian OH8STN <julian@...>
 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.
Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.
73
Julian oh8stn 

Julian OH8STN
www.oh8stn.org
www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN

Re: fusion on bluedv #thumbdv

 

That would be a question for info@... -- also David frequents the AMBE subgroup  https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/ambe

The ThumbDV provides AMBE encoding/decoding but the various protocols (D-STAR, Fusion, DMR, ...) are handled by applications like BlueDV.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:37 AM mike W8VPC <mjc4502@...> wrote:
Hello,

Was wondering if fusion is working on DV3000 with bluedv yet?
I searched for posts however, nothing posted lately.

Tnx
Mike W8VPC



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Jack Spitznagel
 

The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Julian OH8STN
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.

Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.

73

Julian oh8stn 

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jack Spitznagel <kd4iz@...> wrote:

The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Julian OH8STN
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

 

It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card (audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the 7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after its configuration.

Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.

73

Julian oh8stn 



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

John Amdor III
 

After making my own cable to connect an IC-706 to the DRAWS, I think the hammadeparts.com cable is worth the price.

John K0MXL

On 4/11/19 4:29 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
Ham Made Parts makes a cable - https://hammadeparts.com/shop-for-cables?olsPage=products%2Ficom-13-pin-din-acc-port-to-nw-digital-draws-hat-6-pin-mini-din-packet-port-plug&page=3&sortOption=ascend_by_name
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg <mailto:@flyingfrawg>> wrote:
The IC-7300 has only a 13 pin DIN connector. You would need create
an adapter with the 13 pin DIN pigtail that came with the rig. If
you no longer have (or never had) one, the MFJ-5213 will work for
the rig end. See the pinouts on page 12-1 of the IC-7300 manual.____
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*KD4IZ____*
*Jack Spitznagel____*
*FM19oo____*
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*From:* main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
<main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Julian OH8STN
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:22
*To:* main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
<mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nw-digital-radio] fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi____
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It sounds like you're running the 7300 from its internal sound card
(audio codec) via the USB port, rather than from the DRAWS hat. You
must connect the DRAWS hat to the 6 pin mini-din on the rear of the
7300. Then select the DRAWS hat as the audio source in fldigi, after
its configuration.____
Apologies if I misunderstood your configuration.____
73____
Julian oh8stn ____
Julian OH8STN
www.oh8stn.org <http://www.oh8stn.org>
www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN <http://www.youtube.com/c/OH8STN>____
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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>

Kenwood TM-281a Cable

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

I'm looking to make a cable for my 281 so I can get APRS up and running. 

Here are my thoughts:

DIN PIN   Purpose Radio PIN
1         AFIN     6               
2         GND      5 
3         PTT      4               
4         DISCOUT  N/C               
5         AFOUT    Rear Speaker Ring
6         SQL      N/C

Kenwood Mic Cable:
image.png

How does that look to yous guys?

- Steve, KM9G

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

john.chabalko@...
 

I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Dave Phelps
 

I'm curious as to why we would need to use the miniconnector rather than just use the usb?  That's a step backwards imho.

I haven't tried the draws hat or image yet, but i can run my 7200 and fldigi off a straight pi with only the usb.  

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

You can do it either way, but if you're not using the DIN connector, you're not using the DRAWS.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:39 AM Dave Phelps <dave.phelps@...> wrote:
I'm curious as to why we would need to use the miniconnector rather than just use the usb?  That's a step backwards imho.

I haven't tried the draws hat or image yet, but i can run my 7200 and fldigi off a straight pi with only the usb.  

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

So that is really interesting.

On my working setup I made a few contacts on 40m last night.  This setup uses the radio in USB mode, not Data/Pkt.

When I switch DRAWS to Data/Pkt I am able to transmit and my signals are heard, but I no longer can decode any signals.

So I can have one, but not the other.

Still stumped, but maybe that is some progress in there?

Purple is from 40m on the working setup from last night, Yellow is from today on the DRAWS on 20m.  No receive on DRAWS

image.png

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:14 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:
I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Steve, N9VW
 

Dave,
A short answer to your question.

In your case with the ICOM products you are %100 correct in that most of the things you want to do are embedded in the radio. However, you are limiting yourself in many other opportunities.  The DRAWS hat provides you with two interfaces to work with along with a much more capable CODEC for a stunning variety of other applications and modes. It is an experimentation environment ripe for you to go and expand your horizons.

Hope this helps...
73 de Steve, N9VW

On 4/12/2019 6:39 AM, Dave Phelps wrote:
I'm curious as to why we would need to use the miniconnector rather than just use the usb?  That's a step backwards imho.

I haven't tried the draws hat or image yet, but i can run my 7200 and fldigi off a straight pi with only the usb.  

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

Alright, making progress left and right today.

Turns out my input audio levels are too low.  I get to decode some signals, but not all of what is out there.  I'm currently getting about 2 or 3 signals per cycle.

I followed the steps in Brian's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWiDYMcRn4) where he uses alsamixer to set levels.  LO is at -6.0 and PCM is at -11 and that is where my ALC starts to move.

The signals coming in are not great and my waterfall looks like its been truncated:

image.png

I called Yaesu tech support and they actually didn't have a reference for this input (-1 for Yaesu!).  But they told me no more than .5 volt and the recommended setting is 100mV

Using Brian's spreadsheet I get

for .5 volts I get -3
for .1 volts I get -17

Neither of them improve the results or the waterfall.

For reference when I have the rig set to "USB" this is what the waterfall looks like and I get lots of signals in:

image.png

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:28 AM Temporarily Offline <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
So that is really interesting.

On my working setup I made a few contacts on 40m last night.  This setup uses the radio in USB mode, not Data/Pkt.

When I switch DRAWS to Data/Pkt I am able to transmit and my signals are heard, but I no longer can decode any signals.

So I can have one, but not the other.

Still stumped, but maybe that is some progress in there?

Purple is from 40m on the working setup from last night, Yellow is from today on the DRAWS on 20m.  No receive on DRAWS

image.png

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:14 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:
I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Jack Spitznagel
 

Steve,

 

Looks like you have a very narrow filter width defined in the radio? Can you open that up?

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve McGrane
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 13:36
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

 

Alright, making progress left and right today.

 

Turns out my input audio levels are too low.  I get to decode some signals, but not all of what is out there.  I'm currently getting about 2 or 3 signals per cycle.

 

I followed the steps in Brian's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWiDYMcRn4) where he uses alsamixer to set levels.  LO is at -6.0 and PCM is at -11 and that is where my ALC starts to move.

 

The signals coming in are not great and my waterfall looks like its been truncated:

 

image.png

 

I called Yaesu tech support and they actually didn't have a reference for this input (-1 for Yaesu!).  But they told me no more than .5 volt and the recommended setting is 100mV

 

Using Brian's spreadsheet I get

 

for .5 volts I get -3

for .1 volts I get -17

 

Neither of them improve the results or the waterfall.

 

For reference when I have the rig set to "USB" this is what the waterfall looks like and I get lots of signals in:

 

image.png

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:28 AM Temporarily Offline <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:

So that is really interesting.

 

On my working setup I made a few contacts on 40m last night.  This setup uses the radio in USB mode, not Data/Pkt.

 

When I switch DRAWS to Data/Pkt I am able to transmit and my signals are heard, but I no longer can decode any signals.

 

So I can have one, but not the other.

 

Still stumped, but maybe that is some progress in there?

 

Purple is from 40m on the working setup from last night, Yellow is from today on the DRAWS on 20m.  No receive on DRAWS

 

image.png

 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:14 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:

I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

 

Yes that definitely looks like a narrow filter on the 'data' setting.

The calculation (which is also built into DRAWS™ Manager - http://localhost:8080https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5C3cWVVz_A ) is for the transmitter side of things and has nothing to do with your received audio.

In DRAWS™ Manager -- use the Input from Receiver "Analog Gain" control.  Actually this is usually very tolerant, and since you get lots of signals on USB, it is probably fine -- again, this looks like a filter problem.

Screen Shot 2019-04-12 at 10.59.06 AM.png



On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:36 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Alright, making progress left and right today.

Turns out my input audio levels are too low.  I get to decode some signals, but not all of what is out there.  I'm currently getting about 2 or 3 signals per cycle.

I followed the steps in Brian's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWiDYMcRn4) where he uses alsamixer to set levels.  LO is at -6.0 and PCM is at -11 and that is where my ALC starts to move.

The signals coming in are not great and my waterfall looks like its been truncated:

image.png

I called Yaesu tech support and they actually didn't have a reference for this input (-1 for Yaesu!).  But they told me no more than .5 volt and the recommended setting is 100mV

Using Brian's spreadsheet I get

for .5 volts I get -3
for .1 volts I get -17

Neither of them improve the results or the waterfall.

For reference when I have the rig set to "USB" this is what the waterfall looks like and I get lots of signals in:

image.png

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:28 AM Temporarily Offline <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
So that is really interesting.

On my working setup I made a few contacts on 40m last night.  This setup uses the radio in USB mode, not Data/Pkt.

When I switch DRAWS to Data/Pkt I am able to transmit and my signals are heard, but I no longer can decode any signals.

So I can have one, but not the other.

Still stumped, but maybe that is some progress in there?

Purple is from 40m on the working setup from last night, Yellow is from today on the DRAWS on 20m.  No receive on DRAWS

image.png

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:14 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:
I'll have to dig around on this. To add some context to my comment - i've got a huge amount of interference around my home so just getting anything workable is a near miracle for me. I need to understand the signal processing options of the DRAWs better but just using FT8 and i was doing the same with WSPR, i'm getting what i consider to be successful transmission (but my bar is low, no doubt ;) )

For the OP, the other thing you could check is that you're in the right mode. I forgot to put my radio in "data" mode at one point and when it transmitted it opened the mic causing feedback. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on. I have SSB set to use the mic, and data set to use the rear connector (in the menus)



--


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

john.chabalko@...
 

I was looking at the menus last night and it was getting too late for me to spend much time on it.

That's great info you got form Yaesu, i was thinking of doing the same today. Maybe you get to figure out the right filter settings for the rest of us now too

73
;)

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

john.chabalko@...
 

I ca post all the relevant menu configuration i'm using later tonight (PDT). I haven't modified much from the defaults, possibly which sideband to use (USB) in data mode, 

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

Here are my signal reports for today.  Pretty good overall I'd say:

image.png

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:53 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:
I ca post all the relevant menu configuration i'm using later tonight (PDT). I haven't modified much from the defaults, possibly which sideband to use (USB) in data mode, 

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

Got you in the logs Jack!  -15 both ways.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Temporarily Offline <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Here are my signal reports for today.  Pretty good overall I'd say:

image.png

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:53 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:
I ca post all the relevant menu configuration i'm using later tonight (PDT). I haven't modified much from the defaults, possibly which sideband to use (USB) in data mode, 

locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

Jack Spitznagel
 

Yep… good contact and you went “automagically” into my HRD logbook here.  Not too shabby. There was a lot of nearby traffic so I was afraid it wouldn’t go through. Enjoy the DRAWS hat… I have two here, one of the initial early experience release units and one I received about a week ago. The older one is in dedicated Xastir service as my digi/gateway (kd4iz-3), so the new one is going to be used for all my portable unit experimentation. My side of contact was made with the IC-7300 @80W and a GAP Titan vertical dipole. Terminal was my Windoze workstation… this time – no DRAWS (sigh).

 

73

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve McGrane
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 16:37
To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

 

Got you in the logs Jack!  -15 both ways.

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Temporarily Offline <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:

Here are my signal reports for today.  Pretty good overall I'd say:

 

image.png

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:53 PM <john.chabalko@...> wrote:

I ca post all the relevant menu configuration i'm using later tonight (PDT). I haven't modified much from the defaults, possibly which sideband to use (USB) in data mode,