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Re: DRAWS Boot and GPS issues #support

Chuck - VA7UL/VA7ULD/VE1CAM
 

Thanks John!  Private reply sent with three attachments.

73,  Chuck

Re: DRAWS Boot and GPS issues #support

 

Chuck -- how long do you leave cgps or gpsmon running (in case of loss of satellite data and the GPS is cold starting)? 

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:22 PM Chuck - VA7UL/VA7ULD & VE1CAM <va7ul@...> wrote:
Thanks John!  Private reply sent with three attachments.

73,  Chuck



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

okiejim
 

Time for an update. I tried every combination on wsjtx for PTT on my Yeasue FT-847. No joy. So I went to rigctl direct. when I just use command  uppercase T, the 847 beeps twice and the led display say ERROR. So I assume this is an error in hamlib and not WSJT-x? All this is trying to use the CAT for PTT control. Since Xastir works fine via the minidin cable is there a way to have WSJT to work the same way via that cable? The CAT is working for setting the Freqs on my rig just not the PTT.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:25 AM okiejim via Groups.Io <kd6vpe=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
John and John,
Thank you for getting back to me. No I havea not had a chance to chase this down. My shack build is taking up alot of time. Im buiilding the shack in a RV Toyhauler that is why the
Draw Hat was so important to me. I will do some work with it this week. I saw an article on HamLib that said you could use RTS with the comport the same of the CAT port. I will try that first.
And yes I do use two cables the CAT cable has to be a null modem cable. It does work on my 847 and the Draws. More to come sorry for the delay.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:32 PM <jstnsclark@...> wrote:
OK, I am starting to understand it. Sorry, i am new to HAM and very new to the whole digital side of things. Its a learning curve and I am taking it on head first. hah
Thanks John for the help and continued support. I will do some more researching into what GPIO to select in FLDigi

Re: DRAWS Boot and GPS issues #support

 

I ran some tests, with a weak battery and no battery.  In each case, if the power is removed from the DRAWS™ HAT, then the GPS has to cold start and can take up to a few minutes to begin reporting time and position.  If you do not remove power, and/or have a fresh battery, then it should come up quickly.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:52 PM John D Hays - K7VE via Groups.Io <john=hays.org@groups.io> wrote:
Chuck -- how long do you leave cgps or gpsmon running (in case of loss of satellite data and the GPS is cold starting)? 

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:22 PM Chuck - VA7UL/VA7ULD & VE1CAM <va7ul@...> wrote:
Thanks John!  Private reply sent with three attachments.

73,  Chuck



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: DRAWS Boot and GPS issues #support

mathison ott
 

I know that the first 2 batches of 10k units didnt responded to low voltage. Is the board regulating 5v properly. check to see what thr voltage is on battery vs psu. 

Just my thoughts. https://www.dimensionengineering.com makes some good voltege regulators. 

73 KJ6DZB

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 6:23 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
I ran some tests, with a weak battery and no battery.  In each case, if the power is removed from the DRAWS™ HAT, then the GPS has to cold start and can take up to a few minutes to begin reporting time and position.  If you do not remove power, and/or have a fresh battery, then it should come up quickly.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:52 PM John D Hays - K7VE via Groups.Io <john=hays.org@groups.io> wrote:
Chuck -- how long do you leave cgps or gpsmon running (in case of loss of satellite data and the GPS is cold starting)? 

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:22 PM Chuck - VA7UL/VA7ULD & VE1CAM <va7ul@...> wrote:
Thanks John!  Private reply sent with three attachments.

73,  Chuck



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: DRAWS Boot and GPS issues #support

 

Could you be more specific? It isn't clear what "batches" you are talking about.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:16 PM mathison ott <mathisono@...> wrote:
I know that the first 2 batches of 10k units didnt responded to low voltage. Is the board regulating 5v properly. check to see what thr voltage is on battery vs psu. 

Just my thoughts. https://www.dimensionengineering.com makes some good voltege regulators. 

73 KJ6DZB

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 6:23 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
I ran some tests, with a weak battery and no battery.  In each case, if the power is removed from the DRAWS™ HAT, then the GPS has to cold start and can take up to a few minutes to begin reporting time and position.  If you do not remove power, and/or have a fresh battery, then it should come up quickly.



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

okiejim
 

Aw geez,
I need to keep reading up on this device. The answer seems to be in the groups.io.  I see that another ham has simular trouble with an ft-817 and he got an anwser of trying fldigi and flrig first then select flrig in wsjt-x and that might help I will try this this weekend and see. I wish it was easier to find this kind of info. I just don't know how to use group.io very well yet.

Re: fldigi with DRAWS #draws #fldigi

Dave Phelps
 

OK, I've ordered a new Pi 3B+ so I can start using this.

Steve, I'll do this the DRAWS way and connect via the accy plug to reap the benefits - I'm intrigued to see how it will do better than the icom codec.  However, my (only) concern is that I will lose out on the ability to use hardware modems like a PK232MBX since my radios only have the one accy socket.  One of my goals was to become PACTOR active this year. 

I'll say up front I don't know jack about either piece of hardware yet - is there a way to use both of them to their utmost?  

Thanks,
Dave
KD0FX

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

okiejim
 

After all this trial and error. Really!!! I was trying all weekend to get this working. I finally decided I should just do a factory reset on my ft-847 since I had been doing so many things. I did and after that I couldn't get the CAT to work anymore. I checked the baud rate and the default was 4800. I had been running it at 57600. So I said why not and set the wsjt-x rate to 4800. WaaLaa I have PTT working and CAT. So anyone having issues this may help. I now need to play with transmit levels to get a good QSO none yet.

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

Basil Gunn
 

Jim,

Thanks for the update.

You shouldn't have to play with transmit levels.
Look in your FT-847 manual for recommended TX audio levels for digital
mode, then use John's web app for the appropriate ALSA settings.
Let us know what settings work for you.

/Basil

okiejim <kd6vpe@...> writes:

After all this trial and error. Really!!! I was trying all weekend to
get this working. I finally decided I should just do a factory reset
on my ft-847 since I had been doing so many things. I did and after
that I couldn't get the CAT to work anymore. I checked the baud rate
and the default was 4800. I had been running it at 57600. So I said
why not and set the wsjt-x rate to 4800. WaaLaa I have PTT working and
CAT. So anyone having issues this may help. I now need to play with
transmit levels to get a good QSO none yet.

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

okiejim
 

Thank you for all your work,
So not that I have the PTT working I just need to get some audio out. I have not been able to make a QSO yet. I decode fine. It must be a level thing. I tried asking Yeasu Tech Support and their response was that they no longer support my ft-847. I have started  out with the sample for the ft-817. What is the best way to listen to the output of the draws hat? Should it sound like what I hear on the recieve?

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

 

If you look at page 17 of the FT-847 Manual in the lower left corner, you will see the drive levels to use for transmit (pin 1).  Use those values (HF digital on Yaesu usually uses the 1200 baud packet pins for TX/RX and likely the 1200 baud drive level.)

Use the procedure from the DRAWS™ Manager video. To set the level.  For 40 mv, it should look like 
Screen Shot 2019-04-30 at 2.28.40 PM.png

If you have a second receiver the transmitted signal should sound like what you hear on the receiver when receiving the same mode.  You could also use a scope to look at the signal on pin 1.

On the FT-847 there is also a data I/O stereo jack on the back of the radio (in addition to the packet port), see page 16 in the manual.

The FT-847 is a fine radio.  I operated one for a few years, including using the 9600 baud packet port for a D-STAR receive capability.  However, it is long out of production and that is why Yaesu no longer has support for it.




On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:08 PM okiejim <kd6vpe@...> wrote:
Thank you for all your work,
So not that I have the PTT working I just need to get some audio out. I have not been able to make a QSO yet. I decode fine. It must be a level thing. I tried asking Yeasu Tech Support and their response was that they no longer support my ft-847. I have started  out with the sample for the ft-817. What is the best way to listen to the output of the draws hat? Should it sound like what I hear on the recieve?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: FT-847 PTT with wsjt-x not working #draws

okiejim
 

Thank you John.
I got out the ole magnifier and see what you said. I had looked at that page before but did not see the small print. Just like contracts. lol.
I have set it up to this with draw manager and will have to try later. Currently here in Oklahoma we are under tornado warnings and the bands are not open.
I will updzte when I get the next chance. Thank you you guys, I will share the t


On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 4:42 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
If you look at page 17 of the FT-847 Manual in the lower left corner, you will see the drive levels to use for transmit (pin 1).  Use those values (HF digital on Yaesu usually uses the 1200 baud packet pins for TX/RX and likely the 1200 baud drive level.)

Use the procedure from the DRAWS™ Manager video. To set the level.  For 40 mv, it should look like 
Screen Shot 2019-04-30 at 2.28.40 PM.png

If you have a second receiver the transmitted signal should sound like what you hear on the receiver when receiving the same mode.  You could also use a scope to look at the signal on pin 1.

On the FT-847 there is also a data I/O stereo jack on the back of the radio (in addition to the packet port), see page 16 in the manual.

The FT-847 is a fine radio.  I operated one for a few years, including using the 9600 baud packet port for a D-STAR receive capability.  However, it is long out of production and that is why Yaesu no longer has support for it.




On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:08 PM okiejim <kd6vpe@...> wrote:
Thank you for all your work,
So not that I have the PTT working I just need to get some audio out. I have not been able to make a QSO yet. I decode fine. It must be a level thing. I tried asking Yeasu Tech Support and their response was that they no longer support my ft-847. I have started  out with the sample for the ft-817. What is the best way to listen to the output of the draws hat? Should it sound like what I hear on the recieve?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Sound card available via main-board audio jack? #draws #audio #cable #soundcard

rgfuller@...
 
Edited

Is the DRAWS sound chip accessible via the main-board 3.5mm audio jack?

Re: GPS without external antenna? #draws #gps

rgfuller@...
 
Edited

is there a place to attach an internal patch antenna?  An externalantenna seems like a hassle and clutter for portable field use.

Re: Sound card available via main-board audio jack? #draws #audio #cable #soundcard

 

No.  The 3.5mm jack provides output audio from the Raspberry Pi's built in sound system (if enabled).

The DRAWS™ sound system is wired left channel to the left mini-DIN and right channel to the right mini-DIN.

There is a subgroup to discuss DRAWS™/UDRC/UDRC-II capabilities. 
 https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:45 PM <rgfuller@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Is the DRAWS sound chip accessible via the main-board 3.5mm audio jack?



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

Re: GPS without external antenna? #draws #gps

 

New to Linux/Unix? #linux #commands

 

Here is a cheatsheet to get you started. 

https://files.fosswire.com/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf


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locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

John PA3DTF
 

After 2 weeks trying to get my 891 working with Draws i am very confused! 
I did all recommended  settings in the 891 menu .
No receive no  transmit !!! no PTT.
I am using a ft-891 with same setiings as John Chabalko
The FT-891 is working well with my small signalink! 
I have FLdigi and wsjt-x 
Help!!
regards
John PA3DTF



locked Re: DRAWS + FT-891 + WSJT-X/FT8

 

I am in the same boat as John.. Started with a fresh 32GB ultra plus micro card. installed current_beta.zip 2019-april-17. Followed the instructions as per the "NW-digital.radio.group.IO, wiki - getting started.. I have no receive or xmt with my 817. What is the secret for schuss??
Alex WB1GNL