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Re: What works out of the box?

"k7udr" <bhhoyer@...>
 

I'm just thinking of a repeater tied up with dead air possibly annoying voice users. I suppose one could use a dv dongle and capture an AMBE encoded canned message to include.

There are certainly use cases where this would be ok.

John's our D-STAR expert so I'll let him answer any further discussion.

--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., Mark L Friedlander <marklfriedlander@...> wrote:

Thanks for the informative post, It answered many of my questions too but
now I have to ask why did you write, "yes you could use D-RATS with no
voice although I wouldn't recommend it." Why don't you recommend this? I
was thinking I'd host a D-RATs Ratflector on a UDR56K.

73 Mark KV4I


Re: What works out of the box?

John Hays <john@...>
 

I would take it as a personal preference, it is technically possible.




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Mark L Friedlander <marklfriedlander@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the informative post, It answered many of my questions too but now I have to ask why did you write, "yes you could use D-RATS with no voice although I wouldn't recommend it." Why don't you recommend this? I was thinking I'd host a D-RATs Ratflector on a UDR56K.

73 Mark KV4I



On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM, k7udr <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
 



> If I have one UDR w/AMBE, how do I control the frequency and keying? If this is done via the Web Interface, can the freq be set with repeater offsets?

Yes via the web interface and yes we support offsets.

>
> If I have two UDR's in DD mode. Can I extend my home network over them? (Do they basically operate the same as the ID-1's?)

Yes they conform to the DD protocol the same as an ID-1

> Are their any draft manual avail?
>

We are writing app notes for each of the applications, The user interface is self-explanatory and has built-in tips and help.

> > 1. If I buy just one UDR w/ AMBE3000 board, what can I do with it, out
> > of the box? Can I talk to other DV radios and repeaters? What
> > hardware do I need? Besides the obvious control/display interface
> > (presumably HTTP), I assume that I need a microphone, speaker, and
> > some sort of gadget (USB sound dongle?) to talk/listen?

A USB Headset with PTT or vox will allow you to use the UDR in DV mode. Control is via the web app.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
A future version of the app will let you use the speaker/headset on your pad or phone for the voice using vox.
***

> > 2. If I buy two UDRs without DV boards, what can I do with the two of
> > them, out of the box? Presumably, they can talk to each other and
> > send Ethernet data back and forth. Can one UDR w/o AMBE fake the
> > normal DV data mode, with no sound in the voice stream?

Yes you can use DD mode as above and yes you could use D-RATS with no voice although I wouldn't recommend it.

> > 3. Why can't the UDR be a full-duplex repeater? Presumably TX/RX
> > shielding/isolation within the box? If so, do you have a secret,
> > second (repeater) product in the works?

The IQ XCVR Chip does not support full duplex.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
First we will create a full-duplex repeater using 2 udrs connected via ethernet and release the software. There is no schedule for this at this time.

Then we will build a 1U unit that has a udr with a second radio board for receive. The cpu is designed to talk to 2 radio boards. Think 2014.
***

> > Inquiring minds want to know ... I could sell my two ID-880H radios for
> > about the cost of two UDRs, if they were reasonable replacements; ie,
> > could talk (and do data) to existing D-Star radios.
> >
> > Do you have an FAQ section on the web site? I didn't find it.

Going up this weekend.

> > -- Dean
> >
>



Re: What works out of the box?

Mark L Friedlander <marklfriedlander@...>
 

Thanks for the informative post, It answered many of my questions too but now I have to ask why did you write, "yes you could use D-RATS with no voice although I wouldn't recommend it." Why don't you recommend this? I was thinking I'd host a D-RATs Ratflector on a UDR56K.

73 Mark KV4I



On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM, k7udr <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
 



> If I have one UDR w/AMBE, how do I control the frequency and keying? If this is done via the Web Interface, can the freq be set with repeater offsets?

Yes via the web interface and yes we support offsets.

>
> If I have two UDR's in DD mode. Can I extend my home network over them? (Do they basically operate the same as the ID-1's?)

Yes they conform to the DD protocol the same as an ID-1

> Are their any draft manual avail?
>

We are writing app notes for each of the applications, The user interface is self-explanatory and has built-in tips and help.

> > 1. If I buy just one UDR w/ AMBE3000 board, what can I do with it, out
> > of the box? Can I talk to other DV radios and repeaters? What
> > hardware do I need? Besides the obvious control/display interface
> > (presumably HTTP), I assume that I need a microphone, speaker, and
> > some sort of gadget (USB sound dongle?) to talk/listen?

A USB Headset with PTT or vox will allow you to use the UDR in DV mode. Control is via the web app.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
A future version of the app will let you use the speaker/headset on your pad or phone for the voice using vox.
***

> > 2. If I buy two UDRs without DV boards, what can I do with the two of
> > them, out of the box? Presumably, they can talk to each other and
> > send Ethernet data back and forth. Can one UDR w/o AMBE fake the
> > normal DV data mode, with no sound in the voice stream?

Yes you can use DD mode as above and yes you could use D-RATS with no voice although I wouldn't recommend it.

> > 3. Why can't the UDR be a full-duplex repeater? Presumably TX/RX
> > shielding/isolation within the box? If so, do you have a secret,
> > second (repeater) product in the works?

The IQ XCVR Chip does not support full duplex.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
First we will create a full-duplex repeater using 2 udrs connected via ethernet and release the software. There is no schedule for this at this time.

Then we will build a 1U unit that has a udr with a second radio board for receive. The cpu is designed to talk to 2 radio boards. Think 2014.
***

> > Inquiring minds want to know ... I could sell my two ID-880H radios for
> > about the cost of two UDRs, if they were reasonable replacements; ie,
> > could talk (and do data) to existing D-Star radios.
> >
> > Do you have an FAQ section on the web site? I didn't find it.

Going up this weekend.

> > -- Dean
> >
>



Re: What works out of the box?

"k7udr" <bhhoyer@...>
 

If I have one UDR w/AMBE, how do I control the frequency and keying? If this is done via the Web Interface, can the freq be set with repeater offsets?
Yes via the web interface and yes we support offsets.


If I have two UDR's in DD mode. Can I extend my home network over them? (Do they basically operate the same as the ID-1's?)
Yes they conform to the DD protocol the same as an ID-1

Are their any draft manual avail?
We are writing app notes for each of the applications, The user interface is self-explanatory and has built-in tips and help.

1. If I buy just one UDR w/ AMBE3000 board, what can I do with it, out
of the box? Can I talk to other DV radios and repeaters? What
hardware do I need? Besides the obvious control/display interface
(presumably HTTP), I assume that I need a microphone, speaker, and
some sort of gadget (USB sound dongle?) to talk/listen?
A USB Headset with PTT or vox will allow you to use the UDR in DV mode. Control is via the web app.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
A future version of the app will let you use the speaker/headset on your pad or phone for the voice using vox.
***

2. If I buy two UDRs without DV boards, what can I do with the two of
them, out of the box? Presumably, they can talk to each other and
send Ethernet data back and forth. Can one UDR w/o AMBE fake the
normal DV data mode, with no sound in the voice stream?
Yes you can use DD mode as above and yes you could use D-RATS with no voice although I wouldn't recommend it.

3. Why can't the UDR be a full-duplex repeater? Presumably TX/RX
shielding/isolation within the box? If so, do you have a secret,
second (repeater) product in the works?
The IQ XCVR Chip does not support full duplex.

*** Roadmap Only, this is not a product announcement
First we will create a full-duplex repeater using 2 udrs connected via ethernet and release the software. There is no schedule for this at this time.

Then we will build a 1U unit that has a udr with a second radio board for receive. The cpu is designed to talk to 2 radio boards. Think 2014.
***

Inquiring minds want to know ... I could sell my two ID-880H radios for
about the cost of two UDRs, if they were reasonable replacements; ie,
could talk (and do data) to existing D-Star radios.

Do you have an FAQ section on the web site? I didn't find it.
Going up this weekend.

-- Dean


Re: What works out of the box?

"Douglas" <dperv27@...>
 

All,

I have the same questions..

If I have one UDR w/AMBE, how do I control the frequency and keying? If this is done via the Web Interface, can the freq be set with repeater offsets?

If I have two UDR's in DD mode. Can I extend my home network over them? (Do they basically operate the same as the ID-1's?)

Are their any draft manual avail?

--73 de N1OBU (Doug)

--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., Dean Gibson AE7Q <yahoo@...> wrote:


1. If I buy just one UDR w/ AMBE3000 board, what can I do with it, out
of the box? Can I talk to other DV radios and repeaters? What
hardware do I need? Besides the obvious control/display interface
(presumably HTTP), I assume that I need a microphone, speaker, and
some sort of gadget (USB sound dongle?) to talk/listen?
2. If I buy two UDRs without DV boards, what can I do with the two of
them, out of the box? Presumably, they can talk to each other and
send Ethernet data back and forth. Can one UDR w/o AMBE fake the
normal DV data mode, with no sound in the voice stream?
3. Why can't the UDR be a full-duplex repeater? Presumably TX/RX
shielding/isolation within the box? If so, do you have a secret,
second (repeater) product in the works?

Inquiring minds want to know ... I could sell my two ID-880H radios for
about the cost of two UDRs, if they were reasonable replacements; ie,
could talk (and do data) to existing D-Star radios.

Do you have an FAQ section on the web site? I didn't find it.

-- Dean


What works out of the box?

Dean Gibson AE7Q <yahoo@...>
 


  1. If I buy just one UDR w/ AMBE3000 board, what can I do with it, out of the box?  Can I talk to other DV radios and repeaters?  What hardware do I need?  Besides the obvious control/display interface (presumably HTTP), I assume that I need a microphone, speaker, and some sort of gadget (USB sound dongle?) to talk/listen?
  2. If I buy two UDRs without DV boards, what can I do with the two of them, out of the box?  Presumably, they can talk to each other and send Ethernet data back and forth.  Can one UDR w/o AMBE fake the normal DV data mode, with no sound in the voice stream?
  3. Why can't the UDR be a full-duplex repeater?  Presumably TX/RX shielding/isolation within the box?  If so, do you have a secret, second (repeater) product in the works?

Inquiring minds want to know ... I could sell my two ID-880H radios for about the cost of two UDRs, if they were reasonable replacements; ie, could talk (and do data) to existing D-Star radios.

Do you have an FAQ section on the web site?  I didn't find it.

-- Dean


OT: Leftover from 4/1/13

Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
 

Had to pass this on.  Someone did a real convincing job on this!


Ronny
K4RJJ


Re: UDR Network?

Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
 

I plan to get one but funds are not there yet.  I see Jerome in East Atlanta signed up as the one and only for North GA.  

I do plan to put up a UHF RMS gateway soon as I can get the radio programmed and an antenna/feedline set up.   I have a computer and internet connection ready to go for it.

Ronny
K4RJJ



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, ka1mzy <ka1mzy@...> wrote:
 

Wow no kidding.

Might be stepping on one another with that kind of concentration! :)

Glad to see the interest in this. I'm going to enjoy the unit myself as well. Hopefully it fills in a bit of a gap locally here where I am in Texas.

--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., "richark" wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Are you still located in the Seattle area?
>
> There is a large number of us in the greater Seattle area that have signed up to buy.
>
> 73,
> Kenny, KU7M
>
>
> --- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., Tom Hayward wrote:
> >
> > How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
> > there are other pre-orders in my area.
> >
> > I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
> > pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
> > give you a more accurate order estimate.
> >
> > Tom KD7LXL
> >
>



Re: Store and forward vs Real Time access

"qrv@..." <qrv@...>
 

From the last couple of paragraphs (see link) it seems Broadband-Hamnet/
HSMM-Mesh is good with IRC:

http://hsmm-mesh.org/fd-logging-with-mesh/139-k5cs-n1mm-and-hsmm-mesh.html

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, marshalldennyai4cm
<MarshallDenny@...> wrote:
Another general topic we should consider is how messages of various types and handled in digital/packet ham radio.

We need a great deal more interoperability and integration in our otherwise powerful tools we have in ham radio.

We need a messaging format that can be routed through Packet, winlink, other hf digital modes, etc.

Standard POP/SMTP Email... It's already supported almost everywhere.

Shorter IM messages - everywhere does it different but the Jabber/IRC
formats are standard and there are gateways.


73
Bill - WA7NWP
--

Thanks! & 73, KD4E.com
David Colburn nevils-station.com
I don't google I SEARCH! duckduckgo.com
Network: groups.yahoo.com/group/qrv
Restored to design-spec at Heaven's gate 1Cor15:22


Re: UDR Network?

"ka1mzy" <ka1mzy@...>
 

Wow no kidding.

Might be stepping on one another with that kind of concentration! :)

Glad to see the interest in this. I'm going to enjoy the unit myself as well. Hopefully it fills in a bit of a gap locally here where I am in Texas.

--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., "richark" <richark@...> wrote:

Tom,

Are you still located in the Seattle area?

There is a large number of us in the greater Seattle area that have signed up to buy.

73,
Kenny, KU7M


--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., Tom Hayward <esarfl@> wrote:

How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
there are other pre-orders in my area.

I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
give you a more accurate order estimate.

Tom KD7LXL


Re: Store and forward vs Real Time access

Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...>
 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, marshalldennyai4cm
<MarshallDenny@...> wrote:
Another general topic we should consider is how messages of various types and handled in digital/packet ham radio.

We need a great deal more interoperability and integration in our otherwise powerful tools we have in ham radio.

We need a messaging format that can be routed through Packet, winlink, other hf digital modes, etc.

Standard POP/SMTP Email... It's already supported almost everywhere.

Shorter IM messages - everywhere does it different but the Jabber/IRC
formats are standard and there are gateways.


73
Bill - WA7NWP


Re: Store and forward vs Real Time access

"qrv@..." <qrv@...>
 

Length-limited ext messages may be more readily managed
cross-system.

Check with the HSMM-Mesh (AKA Broadband-Hamnet) Hams as
someone only recently did some work in that area.

We do; it's called email. The problem is, how do we manage the need
for sending attachments through the various systems, since not all of
them handle that equally well.

Matthew Pitts N8OHU
--

Thanks! & 73, KD4E.com
David Colburn nevils-station.com
I don't google I SEARCH! duckduckgo.com
Network: groups.yahoo.com/group/qrv
Restored to design-spec at Heaven's gate 1Cor15:22


Re: UDR Network?

"Curt, WE7U" <curt.we7u@...>
 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013, Tom Hayward wrote:

How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
there are other pre-orders in my area.

I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
give you a more accurate order estimate.
It's up now.

--
Curt, WE7U. http://wetnet.net/~we7u
Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator


Re: Store and forward vs Real Time access

Matthew Pitts <daywalker_blade_2004@...>
 

We do; it's called email. The problem is, how do we manage the need for sending attachments through the various systems, since not all of them handle that equally well.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU



From: marshalldennyai4cm
To: UniversalDigitalRadio@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:17 PM
Subject: [UniversalDigitalRadio] Store and forward vs Real Time access

 
Another general topic we should consider is how messages of various types and handled in digital/packet ham radio.

We need a great deal more interoperability and integration in our otherwise powerful tools we have in ham radio.

We need a messaging format that can be routed through Packet, winlink, other hf digital modes, etc.

As we have radios that have significant RAM and secondary storage, we can have all of these( under owner control) have store and forward ability.

Just a few ideas to use as a starting point for discussions.
Respectfully,
Marshall
AI4CM




Store and forward vs Real Time access

"marshalldennyai4cm" <MarshallDenny@...>
 

Another general topic we should consider is how messages of various types and handled in digital/packet ham radio.

We need a great deal more interoperability and integration in our otherwise powerful tools we have in ham radio.

We need a messaging format that can be routed through Packet, winlink, other hf digital modes, etc.

As we have radios that have significant RAM and secondary storage, we can have all of these( under owner control) have store and forward ability.

Just a few ideas to use as a starting point for discussions.
Respectfully,
Marshall
AI4CM


Re: UDR Network?

Tom Hayward <esarfl@...>
 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:54 PM, richark <richark@...> wrote:
 

Tom,

Are you still located in the Seattle area?

There is a large number of us in the greater Seattle area that have signed up to buy.

73,
Kenny, KU7M

Tacoma North End (http://aprs.fi/kd7lxl-1). I know I can get into Renton on 440, but haven't tried anything further north. West Seattle should be easy if someone on the hill buys one. Not sure what my coverage is like to the south, but I'm facing a hill that direction so I'm not optimistic.

I'm not worried about adoption--I saw all the hands raised at Microhams--I'm just curious about the specifics.

Tom KD7LXL


Re: UDR Network?

"richark" <richark@...>
 

Tom,

Are you still located in the Seattle area?

There is a large number of us in the greater Seattle area that have signed up to buy.

73,
Kenny, KU7M

--- In UniversalDigitalRadio@..., Tom Hayward <esarfl@...> wrote:

How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
there are other pre-orders in my area.

I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
give you a more accurate order estimate.

Tom KD7LXL


Re: UDR Network?

"John D. Hays" <john@...>
 

Hi Tom,

If you are still in Gig Harbor, the Puget Sound has the highest concentrations of pre-orders.  The map will be forthcoming soon, just working through a technical blocker.

The map will not be real time, but will be updated regularly (at least every couple days and maybe more than once a day.) 



John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
  



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tom Hayward <esarfl@...> wrote:
 

How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
there are other pre-orders in my area.

I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
give you a more accurate order estimate.

Tom KD7LXL

__._


UDR Network?

Tom Hayward <esarfl@...>
 

How long until the UDR Network map is up? I'd really like to know if
there are other pre-orders in my area.

I suspect there are quite a few people waiting to place their
pre-order until they see someone in their area, so posting a map might
give you a more accurate order estimate.

Tom KD7LXL


Re: D-Star voice?

"John D. Hays" <john@...>
 

Yes, with the AMBE/D-STAR Voice add-on card.



John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
  




On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> wrote:
 

One thing I have never been clear on.  Will this radio do RF based D-star voice mode?  I know the D-star is an option like the UT-118 is for my IC-2200H.  Once added can I use the computer headset for D-star voice?

Ronny
K4RJJ

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