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Re: MMDVM for udrc II cb #1861 Basil, There was something from SalmonCON I was supposed to followup with you on... Some question about the KX3...? Audio amplification level adjustment or hardware questions? Second - just basic questions - how do I go about learning that "apt-get remove udrc-dkms" does something specific... and maybe secondarily, how do you remember all that stuff? Where does a guy go to learn it and leave the evil world of windows behind? Thanks - probably not a simple question and it is probably so far in your past it may not be possible to recall... But thanks. Third - will I see you at Summer Gathering? I'll be there... plans are afoot. Thanks! Curt Black - West Seattle Amateur Radio Club 206 755-4541c wr5j@arrl.net .. " toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2018-08-10 16:04, Basil Gunn wrote: BTW, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' installs stuff that causes the udrc to vanish, so I am currently reframing from installing about 10 packages. Kernel, video and systemd stuff. Thoughts? The following brings the udrc driver modules back after an apt-get upgrade: apt-get remove udrc-dkms apt-get install udrc-dkms /Basil
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Re: MMDVM for udrc II Annaliese McDermond #1860 It’s not in the wiki because it’s a bug. I just uploaded a new package that I’m hoping will solve the issue and you won’t have to use the workaround -- Annaliese McDermond (NH6Z) Xenotropic Systems mcdermj@xenotropic.com toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Hans Oeste <oeste.hanspeter@gmail.com> wrote: Wow! I'm glad I asked as that's pretty simple. It would be great if that was in the wiki. It would have saved me quite a few installs and pretty much a full day trying to figure out what was going on when trying the different package updates. Hans. On August 10, 2018 4:04:31 PM "Basil Gunn" <basil@pacabunga.com> wrote: BTW, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' installs stuff that causes the udrc to vanish, so I am currently reframing from installing about 10 packages. Kernel, video and systemd stuff. Thoughts? The following brings the udrc driver modules back after an apt-get upgrade: apt-get remove udrc-dkms apt-get install udrc-dkms /Basil
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Re: MMDVM for udrc II Hans Oeste #1859 Wow! I'm glad I asked as that's pretty simple. It would be great if that was in the wiki. It would have saved me quite a few installs and pretty much a full day trying to figure out what was going on when trying the different package updates. Hans. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On August 10, 2018 4:04:31 PM "Basil Gunn" <basil@pacabunga.com> wrote: BTW, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' installs stuff that causes the udrc to vanish, so I am currently reframing from installing about 10 packages. Kernel, video and systemd stuff. Thoughts? The following brings the udrc driver modules back after an apt-get upgrade: apt-get remove udrc-dkms apt-get install udrc-dkms /Basil
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Re: MMDVM for udrc II Basil Gunn #1858 BTW, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' installs stuff that causes the udrc to vanish, so I am currently reframing from installing about 10 packages. Kernel, video and systemd stuff. Thoughts? The following brings the udrc driver modules back after an apt-get upgrade: apt-get remove udrc-dkms apt-get install udrc-dkms /Basil
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MMDVM for udrc II Hans Oeste #1857 I have written out an image to an SD card of the latest Compass image, and downloaded and compiled the udrc MMDVM GitHub package. On trying to start MMDVM I get the following error though. Any thoughts on what the issue might be? Virtual pty: /dev/pts/1 <> ttyMMDVM0 Cannot get control attributes for /dev/ptmx unable to open serial port on both: ttyMMDVM0 I have the udrc II and aplay -L sees it just fine. BTW, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' installs stuff that causes the udrc to vanish, so I am currently reframing from installing about 10 packages. Kernel, video and systemd stuff. Thoughts? Hans Oeste VE7OES
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1856 Thanks. Similar to DMR then. No, I didn’t know about the registering. I’m going to catch a few Youtube videos or articles to get properly educated. Thanks for the reference. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:14 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote: Dick, If I found the right Richard Herrick on QRZ.com, you don't appear to be registered with US Trust. Put your call in http://query.ke5bms.com/index.php To register, go to https://regist.dstargateway.org (It will take a while for you to get approved, it's not automated.) This will get you access to REFxxx reflectors, in the interim try XRF002 C and see if you have luck there, registration not required for XRF reflectors. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Anna Sorry i’m still fumbling a bit. Working now. Listening fine on REF001 C. I’ve set the space bar as the transmit button. I would expect my calling to show up in the list of the Buster window, but it does not. I do hear the chirp indicating that I’ve “done something” The Yellow LED in the ThumbDV does light when I press that space bar. Still I am apparently not transmitting. Audio settings appear OK Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote: On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Just the first time. What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate. On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box. The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up. Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work. So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it. This makes it talk and everything’s good. Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else. On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV. Then when people reset it, things are all good. Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work. Have fun with it! Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 — Anna, NH6Z,_._,_ -- John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS John D Hays - K7VE #1855 Dick, If I found the right Richard Herrick on QRZ.com, you don't appear to be registered with US Trust. Put your call in http://query.ke5bms.com/index.php To register, go to https://regist.dstargateway.org (It will take a while for you to get approved, it's not automated.) This will get you access to REFxxx reflectors, in the interim try XRF002 C and see if you have luck there, registration not required for XRF reflectors. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Anna Sorry i’m still fumbling a bit. Working now. Listening fine on REF001 C. I’ve set the space bar as the transmit button. I would expect my calling to show up in the list of the Buster window, but it does not. I do hear the chirp indicating that I’ve “done something” The Yellow LED in the ThumbDV does light when I press that space bar. Still I am apparently not transmitting. Audio settings appear OK Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote: On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Just the first time. What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate. On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box. The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up. Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work. So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it. This makes it talk and everything’s good. Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else. On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV. Then when people reset it, things are all good. Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work. Have fun with it! Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 — Anna, NH6Z,_._,_ -- John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1854 Anna Sorry i’m still fumbling a bit. Working now. Listening fine on REF001 C. I’ve set the space bar as the transmit button. I would expect my calling to show up in the list of the Buster window, but it does not. I do hear the chirp indicating that I’ve “done something” The Yellow LED in the ThumbDV does light when I press that space bar. Still I am apparently not transmitting. Audio settings appear OK Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote: On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Just the first time. What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate. On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box. The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up. Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work. So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it. This makes it talk and everything’s good. Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else. On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV. Then when people reset it, things are all good. Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work. Have fun with it! Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 — Anna, NH6Z,_._,_
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Re: Thumb DV & Raspberry Pi John D Hays - K7VE #1853 Hi Gary, A 'hotspot' and using the ThumbDV are two different applications. The ThumbDV is an AMBE-3000 device married to a FTDI USB Serial chip. It provides the function of converting digitized (PCM) voice to AMBE+ (and in some applications to AMBE+2) and back over a USB serial port. All other functions, such as audio to/from the speaker and microphone, network communications, GUI, etc. are performed by the applications that use it. User applications include such programs as Buster, BlueDV, DummyRepeater, ... there are also daemon/service applications which can use the ThumbDV for transcoding such as AMBEserver, ambed, AllStar Digital tools, etc. The ThumbDV does not provide any RF directly and is not required in most 'hotspot' applications. Hotspot applications are composed of an RF deck, modems (usually soundcard based), and programs to wrap and unwap protocols. They are accessed using a D-STAR radio. Some applications for this include dstarrepeater, BlueDV, WinDV, PiStar. Our Raspberry Pi hat products like the UDRC provide the soundcard and control lines to implement a hotspot using a radio with a 9600 baud packet connection (or 4 wire radio interface -- discriminator out, modulator in, PTT, Squelch Detect). The UDRC is currently out of stock but will be replaced with a new product in the coming weeks. The new product will control 2 radios and has a built in GPS (time and position). Please visit the ambe and udrc subgroups of this group to talk to others about the applications they have used with the ThumbDV and UDRC products. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Gary McBroom <73064macgyver@...> wrote: I have been using the Thumb DV with my Mac and it is working flawless. I'm interested in getting a Raspberry Pi 3+. Can this be used as a portable hotspot and if so do I need a PI display to change Reflectors. Also do you use your handheld (Icom 51) to transmit to the Pi? -- John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1852 Anna, Let me know where I can donate to your ongoing efforts. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote: On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Just the first time. What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate. On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box. The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up. Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work. So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it. This makes it talk and everything’s good. Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else. On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV. Then when people reset it, things are all good. Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work. Have fun with it! Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 — Anna, NH6Z,_._,_
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Annaliese McDermond #1851 On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Just the first time. What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate. On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box. The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up. Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work. So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it. This makes it talk and everything’s good. Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else. On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV. Then when people reset it, things are all good. Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work. Have fun with it! Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 — Anna, NH6Z,_._,_
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Thumb DV & Raspberry Pi Gary McBroom <73064macgyver@...> #1850 I have been using the Thumb DV with my Mac and it is working flawless. I'm interested in getting a Raspberry Pi 3+. Can this be used as a portable hotspot and if so do I need a PI display to change Reflectors. Also do you use your handheld (Icom 51) to transmit to the Pi?
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1849 Ha! Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software. It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder. Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation? Blessings, and thanks for your creativity … Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote: Dick — Start up Buster Go to the Preferences pane, and select the Vocoder tab. Make sure there is a device selected in the dropdown. Change the baud rate to 460800 Wait 1 second. Remove the ThumbDV from the USB port Wait 1 second Replaced the ThumbDV in the USB port. The Version fields should populate. This shows that Buster is talking to the ThumbDV. — Anna, NH6Z On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: GM. Mac “sees” the ThumbDV I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started. Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found” Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling. I hear nothing coming out of the Mac. I’ve Unlinked at this point. I think the vocoder not being found is an issue. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote: Dick, I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add. When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect. Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Annaliese McDermond #1848 Dick — Start up Buster Go to the Preferences pane, and select the Vocoder tab. Make sure there is a device selected in the dropdown. Change the baud rate to 460800 Wait 1 second. Remove the ThumbDV from the USB port Wait 1 second Replaced the ThumbDV in the USB port. The Version fields should populate. This shows that Buster is talking to the ThumbDV. — Anna, NH6Z toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote: GM. Mac “sees” the ThumbDV I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started. Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found” Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling. I hear nothing coming out of the Mac. I’ve Unlinked at this point. I think the vocoder not being found is an issue. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote: Dick, I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add. When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect. Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1847 GM. Mac “sees” the ThumbDV I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started. Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found” Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling. I hear nothing coming out of the Mac. I’ve Unlinked at this point. I think the vocoder not being found is an issue. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote: Dick, I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add. When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect. Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Kenny Richards #1846 Dick, I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add. When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect. Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Kenny Richards #1845 Dick, Attached is two screen shots. The first shows the System Report with the ThumbDV installed. Notice it is reported to the system as a FT232EX, which is the USB to serial chip used in the ThumbDV to provide access to the AMBE chip. (Click "about this mac', system report and then USB) The second screen shot is from Buster's preferences, specifically the VoCoder tab. This is what you will see when Buster has successfully accessed the ThumbDV. This should happen automatically unless you have previously told Buster to use the network vocoder option previously. Worst case is just select the Thumb DV option. If these two things look correct, it sounds like everything is working. Have you tried connecting to a busy reflector (REF001C or REF030C are two good starting points) and seen if you are able to connect/hear anything? Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1844 Thanks, Kenny, for the rapid response. I have a recent MacBook Pro laptop. I’m an experienced Mac user from the “early days." I did download from the App Store. I believe I had the ThumbDV in the USB port BEFORE I downloaded and launched the Buster app. Perhaps the wrong sequence. After that, I”ll need to see how to populate the fields in the Buster window. Again, I admit I need more education on this, and there are many places for it. CW is so much easier !!!!!! Thanks again. Dick Herrick, BEE, PE rjherrickpe@... (Office) 704-509-2882 (Cell) 704-995-1522 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 8, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote: Dick, Did you install Buster via the Apple App Store or did you download the code from GitHub? The installation process should roughly go like this: 1) Launch App store, search for Buster and install it. (It is a free app) 2) Plug the ThumbDV into a USB port on your Mac. 3) Launch Buster Buster's default config should select the ThumbDV automatically. Like the NWDigital Site says, the necessary FTDI driver (which is a USB to serial port driver) is included with the MacOS installations. (At least for the last three, not sure before El Captain) Thanks Kenny
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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS Kenny Richards #1843 Dick, Did you install Buster via the Apple App Store or did you download the code from GitHub? The installation process should roughly go like this: 1) Launch App store, search for Buster and install it. (It is a free app) 2) Plug the ThumbDV into a USB port on your Mac. 3) Launch Buster Buster's default config should select the ThumbDV automatically. Like the NWDigital Site says, the necessary FTDI driver (which is a USB to serial port driver) is included with the MacOS installations. (At least for the last three, not sure before El Captain) Thanks Kenny
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ThumbDV and Mac OS Dick Herrick #1842 Folks, I'm new to this site and D-Star, so I know I need to get education from many available sources. In the meantime, I have the unit, and the notes on this company's website don't seem to help too much. Didn't find anything for Mac on YouTube either. NWDigital said ... Buster works with the native FTDI driver supplied by Apple. So where is this "native" driver from Apple? I downloaded Buster, and there was a link to FTDI for a driver. However, that appears to be code (SUDO) that I would need to enter manually. Is that how it's supposed to work? Thanks for any info you can provide ... DIck K8WWN (57 years a ham)
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