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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

 

Dick,

If I found the right Richard Herrick on QRZ.com, you don't appear to be registered with US Trust.


To register, go to https://regist.dstargateway.org  (It will take a while for you to get approved, it's not automated.)

This will get you access to REFxxx reflectors, in the interim try XRF002 C and see if you have luck there, registration not required for XRF reflectors.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:
Anna

Sorry i’m still fumbling a bit.

Working now.
Listening fine on REF001 C.
I’ve set the space bar as the transmit button.
I would expect my calling to show up in the list of the Buster window, but it does not.
I do hear the chirp indicating that I’ve “done something”
The Yellow LED in the ThumbDV does light when I press that space bar.
Still I am apparently not transmitting.
Audio settings appear OK


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote:


On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

Ha!  Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software.

It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder.  Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation?

Just the first time.  What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate.  On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box.  The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up.  Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work.  So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it.  This makes it talk and everything’s good.  Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else.

On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV.  Then when people reset it, things are all good.

Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work.  Have fun with it!


Blessings, and thanks for your creativity …



Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

— Anna, NH6Z,_._,_





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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

Anna

Sorry i’m still fumbling a bit.

Working now.
Listening fine on REF001 C.
I’ve set the space bar as the transmit button.
I would expect my calling to show up in the list of the Buster window, but it does not.
I do hear the chirp indicating that I’ve “done something”
The Yellow LED in the ThumbDV does light when I press that space bar.
Still I am apparently not transmitting.
Audio settings appear OK


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote:


On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

Ha!  Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software.

It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder.  Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation?

Just the first time.  What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate.  On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box.  The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up.  Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work.  So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it.  This makes it talk and everything’s good.  Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else.

On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV.  Then when people reset it, things are all good.

Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work.  Have fun with it!


Blessings, and thanks for your creativity …



Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

— Anna, NH6Z,_._,_



Re: Thumb DV & Raspberry Pi

 

Hi Gary,

A 'hotspot' and using the ThumbDV are two different applications.

The ThumbDV is an AMBE-3000 device married to a FTDI USB Serial chip.  It provides the function of converting digitized (PCM) voice to AMBE+ (and in some applications to AMBE+2) and back over a USB serial port.  All other functions, such as audio to/from the speaker and microphone, network communications, GUI, etc. are performed by the applications that use it. User applications include such programs as Buster, BlueDV, DummyRepeater,  ... there are also daemon/service applications which can use the ThumbDV for transcoding such as AMBEserver, ambed, AllStar Digital tools, etc.  The ThumbDV does not provide any RF directly and is not required in most 'hotspot' applications.

Hotspot applications are composed of an RF deck, modems (usually soundcard based), and programs to wrap and unwap protocols.  They are accessed using a D-STAR radio.  Some applications for this include dstarrepeater, BlueDV, WinDV, PiStar.  Our Raspberry Pi hat products like the UDRC provide the soundcard and control lines to implement a hotspot using a radio with a 9600 baud packet connection (or 4 wire radio interface -- discriminator out, modulator in, PTT, Squelch Detect).   The UDRC is currently out of stock but will be replaced with a new product in the coming weeks.  The new product will control 2 radios and has a built in GPS (time and position).

Please visit the ambe and udrc subgroups of this group to talk to others about the applications they have used with the ThumbDV and UDRC products.



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Gary McBroom <73064macgyver@...> wrote:
I have been using the Thumb DV with my Mac and it is working flawless.  I'm interested in getting a Raspberry Pi 3+.  Can this be used as a portable hotspot and if so do I need a PI display to change Reflectors.  Also do you use your handheld (Icom 51) to transmit to the Pi?




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Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

Anna,

Let me know where I can donate to your ongoing efforts.


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote:


On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

Ha!  Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software.

It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder.  Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation?

Just the first time.  What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate.  On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box.  The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up.  Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work.  So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it.  This makes it talk and everything’s good.  Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else.

On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV.  Then when people reset it, things are all good.

Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work.  Have fun with it!


Blessings, and thanks for your creativity …



Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

— Anna, NH6Z,_._,_



Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Annaliese McDermond
 


On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

Ha!  Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software.

It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder.  Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation?

Just the first time.  What happens is that Buster initially defaults to the 230400 baud rate.  On first launch, it tries to talk to the ThumbDV at the wrong baud rate, and you get the “cannot talk to vocoder” dialog box.  The issue is that the wrong baud rate confuses the AMBE chip on the ThumbDV, so it essentially locks up.  Even if you now set the correct baud rate, it won’t work.  So, you have to get the baud rate set, and then reset the ThumbDV by reinserting it.  This makes it talk and everything’s good.  Buster will now remember this good configuration until you change it to something else.

On some reflection, what I probably should do is default the baud rate to 0, which guarantees things will fail without talking to the ThumbDV.  Then when people reset it, things are all good.

Anyhow, I’m glad you could get it to work.  Have fun with it!


Blessings, and thanks for your creativity …



Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

— Anna, NH6Z,_._,_


Thumb DV & Raspberry Pi

Gary McBroom <73064macgyver@...>
 

I have been using the Thumb DV with my Mac and it is working flawless.  I'm interested in getting a Raspberry Pi 3+.  Can this be used as a portable hotspot and if so do I need a PI display to change Reflectors.  Also do you use your handheld (Icom 51) to transmit to the Pi?


Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

Ha!  Of course you would have the answer as the author of the software.

It did indeed recognize the ThumbDV and the vocoder.  Is this something I would need to do every time or just an initial situation?

Blessings, and thanks for your creativity …



Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote:

Dick —

Start up Buster
Go to the Preferences pane, and select the Vocoder tab.
Make sure there is a device selected in the dropdown.
Change the baud rate to 460800
Wait 1 second.
Remove the ThumbDV from the USB port
Wait 1 second
Replaced the ThumbDV in the USB port.
The Version fields should populate.  This shows that Buster is talking to the ThumbDV.

— Anna, NH6Z

On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

GM.

Mac “sees” the ThumbDV
I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started.
Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found”
Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling.
I hear nothing coming out of the Mac.
I’ve Unlinked at this point.

I think the vocoder not being found is an issue.


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:

Dick,

I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add.  When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect.

Thanks

Kenny





Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Annaliese McDermond
 

Dick —

Start up Buster
Go to the Preferences pane, and select the Vocoder tab.
Make sure there is a device selected in the dropdown.
Change the baud rate to 460800
Wait 1 second.
Remove the ThumbDV from the USB port
Wait 1 second
Replaced the ThumbDV in the USB port.
The Version fields should populate.  This shows that Buster is talking to the ThumbDV.

— Anna, NH6Z

On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Dick Herrick via Groups.Io <rjherrickpe@...> wrote:

GM.

Mac “sees” the ThumbDV
I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started.
Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found”
Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling.
I hear nothing coming out of the Mac.
I’ve Unlinked at this point.

I think the vocoder not being found is an issue.


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:

Dick,

I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add.  When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect.

Thanks

Kenny




Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

GM.

Mac “sees” the ThumbDV
I’ve entered the reflector REF001 C to get started.
Preferences for Buster says “Vocoder not found”
Buster window shows a list of contacts with “Your” saying CQCQCQ which makes it look like I am calling.
I hear nothing coming out of the Mac.
I’ve Unlinked at this point.

I think the vocoder not being found is an issue.


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:53 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:

Dick,

I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add.  When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect.

Thanks

Kenny



Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Kenny Richards
 

Dick,

I forgot to mention something. To connect to a reflector, hit the "+" button on the lower right side of the screen and enter the reflector to connect to. To busy ones are REF001 C (So REF001 on the left box and select C on the drop down to the right) and then add.  When it is added to your list, double click on it to have Buster connect.

Thanks

Kenny


Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Kenny Richards
 

Dick,

Attached is two screen shots. The first shows the System Report with the ThumbDV installed. Notice it is reported to the system as a FT232EX, which is the USB to serial chip used in the ThumbDV to provide access to the AMBE chip. (Click "about this mac', system report and then USB)

The second screen shot is from Buster's preferences, specifically the VoCoder tab. This is what you will see when Buster has successfully accessed the ThumbDV. This should happen automatically unless you have previously told Buster to use the network vocoder option previously. Worst case is just select the Thumb DV option.

If these two things look correct, it sounds like everything is working. Have you tried connecting to a busy reflector (REF001C or REF030C are two good starting points) and seen if you are able to connect/hear anything?

Thanks
Kenny





Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

Thanks, Kenny, for the rapid response.  

I have a recent MacBook Pro laptop.  I’m an experienced Mac user from the “early days."

I did download from the App Store.

I believe I had the ThumbDV in the USB port BEFORE I downloaded and launched the Buster app.

Perhaps the wrong sequence.

After that, I”ll need to see how to populate the fields in the Buster window.  Again, I admit I need more education on this, and there are many places for it.

CW is so much easier !!!!!!

Thanks again.


Dick Herrick, BEE, PE
rjherrickpe@...

(Office) 704-509-2882
(Cell)    704-995-1522

On Aug 8, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:

Dick,

Did you install Buster via the Apple App Store or did you download the code from GitHub?  The installation process should roughly go like this:

1) Launch App store, search for Buster and install it. (It is a free app)

2) Plug the ThumbDV into a USB port on your Mac.

3) Launch Buster

Buster's default config should select the ThumbDV automatically. Like the NWDigital Site says, the necessary FTDI driver (which is a USB to serial port driver) is included with the MacOS installations. (At least for the last three, not sure before El Captain)

Thanks

Kenny



Re: ThumbDV and Mac OS

Kenny Richards
 

Dick,

Did you install Buster via the Apple App Store or did you download the code from GitHub?  The installation process should roughly go like this:

1) Launch App store, search for Buster and install it. (It is a free app)

2) Plug the ThumbDV into a USB port on your Mac.

3) Launch Buster

Buster's default config should select the ThumbDV automatically. Like the NWDigital Site says, the necessary FTDI driver (which is a USB to serial port driver) is included with the MacOS installations. (At least for the last three, not sure before El Captain)

Thanks

Kenny


ThumbDV and Mac OS

Dick Herrick
 

Folks, I'm new to this site and D-Star, so I know I need to get education from many available sources.  In the meantime, I have the unit, and the notes on this company's website don't seem to help too much.   Didn't find anything for Mac on YouTube either.  NWDigital said ...

Buster works with the native FTDI driver supplied by Apple.

So where is this "native" driver from Apple?  I downloaded Buster, and there was a link to FTDI for a driver.  However, that appears to be code (SUDO) that I would need to enter manually.  Is that how it's supposed to work?

Thanks for any info you can provide ...

DIck
K8WWN (57 years a ham)


Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started

Robert Raymond <w7rjr@...>
 

Dan, I gave you a call on ref 1c. Are you still there?
Bob


On Aug 6, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote:

Thanks ... I am on the air using ThumbDv, BlueDv and listening to D-Star REF001.

Daniel K7NOW


2018 ARRL/TAPR DCC Call for Technical Papers & Presentations

Mark Thompson
 

2018 ARRL/TAPR DCC 
(Digital Communications Conference) 

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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started

Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...>
 

Thanks ... I am on the air using ThumbDv, BlueDv and listening to D-Star REF001.

Daniel K7NOW


Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started

david bencini ik5xmk <ik5xmk@...>
 

Hi, this post is for a "similar" USB DONGLE, sorry, but thinking to be usefull for everyone, compatibility 100%
i have all types:


and this one:


Google can translate for you...

73 David IK5XMK

Il giorno lun 6 ago 2018 alle ore 19:12 Don Meyerhoff <wa2swxdm@...> ha scritto:
Hi,

How are you looking to use this?  It can be used locally (via the PC it's connected to) or remotely by running it as a server and using an android app. This gives you DMR and D-Star. I use the app version when I go on travel.  There are a number of ways to use the dongle. One place to go is www.pa7lim.nl/bluedv-windows .There are a number if videos o n YouTube as well. Search for Bluedv. Hope this helps.

73

Don Meyerhoff
WA2SWX

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 12:59 PM Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote:
I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it

ThumbTest.exe
Available Ports:
   COM3
Enter COM port value (Default: COM1): COM3
Baud Rate(default:9600): 460800
a 9
a 0AMBE3000R
a 1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208

So it appears to be connecting. 

Where do I find the next pieces of software and instruction on how to install and use? I've been looking at drivers etc via websearch but don't seem to be able to find the "tutorial steps" to get up and running. I've used D-Star via my HT but this is my first attempt via pc.

Daniel
K7NOW


Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started

Don Meyerhoff
 

Hi,

How are you looking to use this?  It can be used locally (via the PC it's connected to) or remotely by running it as a server and using an android app. This gives you DMR and D-Star. I use the app version when I go on travel.  There are a number of ways to use the dongle. One place to go is www.pa7lim.nl/bluedv-windows .There are a number if videos o n YouTube as well. Search for Bluedv. Hope this helps.

73

Don Meyerhoff
WA2SWX


On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 12:59 PM Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote:
I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it

ThumbTest.exe
Available Ports:
   COM3
Enter COM port value (Default: COM1): COM3
Baud Rate(default:9600): 460800
a 9
a 0AMBE3000R
a 1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208

So it appears to be connecting. 

Where do I find the next pieces of software and instruction on how to install and use? I've been looking at drivers etc via websearch but don't seem to be able to find the "tutorial steps" to get up and running. I've used D-Star via my HT but this is my first attempt via pc.

Daniel
K7NOW


Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started

 

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote:
I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it

ThumbTest.exe
Available Ports:
   COM3
Enter COM port value (Default: COM1): COM3
Baud Rate(default:9600): 460800
a 9
a 0AMBE3000R
a 1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208

So it appears to be connecting. 

Where do I find the next pieces of software and instruction on how to install and use? I've been looking at drivers etc via websearch but don't seem to be able to find the "tutorial steps" to get up and running. I've used D-Star via my HT but this is my first attempt via pc.

Daniel
K7NOW


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE