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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
Robert Raymond <w7rjr@...>
Dan, I gave you a call on ref 1c. Are you still there?
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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...>
Thanks ... I am on the air using ThumbDv, BlueDv and listening to D-Star REF001.
Daniel K7NOW
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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
david bencini ik5xmk <ik5xmk@...>
Hi, this post is for a "similar" USB DONGLE, sorry, but thinking to be usefull for everyone, compatibility 100% i have all types: and this one: Google can translate for you... 73 David IK5XMK
Il giorno lun 6 ago 2018 alle ore 19:12 Don Meyerhoff <wa2swxdm@...> ha scritto:
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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
Don Meyerhoff
Hi, How are you looking to use this? It can be used locally (via the PC it's connected to) or remotely by running it as a server and using an android app. This gives you DMR and D-Star. I use the app version when I go on travel. There are a number of ways to use the dongle. One place to go is www.pa7lim.nl/bluedv-windows .There are a number if videos o n YouTube as well. Search for Bluedv. Hope this helps. 73 Don Meyerhoff WA2SWX
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 12:59 PM Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote: I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it
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Re: ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...> wrote: I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it --
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ThumbDv on Win 10 - need basics to get started
Daniel Lipkie <DanielLipkie@...>
I am running Win 10 pro. I have inserted the ThumbDv and downloaded ThumbTest.exe and I get these results when I run it
ThumbTest.exe
Available Ports:
COM3
Enter COM port value (Default: COM1): COM3
Baud Rate(default:9600): 460800
a 9
a 0AMBE3000R
a 1 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208
So it appears to be connecting. Where do I find the next pieces of software and instruction on how to install and use? I've been looking at drivers etc via websearch but don't seem to be able to find the "tutorial steps" to get up and running. I've used D-Star via my HT but this is my first attempt via pc. Daniel K7NOW
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
I think this may have gotten a little off track. I think the OP was
looking for a method of connecting to the existing DMR networks from
his MAC. I know there is a Linux version of such a program. I don't
know if the author would be interested in porting to a MAC.
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I'll ask. Steve N4IRS
On 8/1/2018 3:53 PM, John D Hays - K7VE
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:03 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Motorola have made it abundantly clear that they have no issues with DMR in the amateur world. That is why I don’t want MMDVMs being used for commercial purposes on DMR, P25 or NXDN (I know this one isn’t Motorola).
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There is a UDRC version of the MMDVM for all modes and DMR is DMO mode only. Also I think if someone did a DMR version of the D-Star Dummy Repeater, that not being RF TDMA, it’d probably fall outside of all of their IP anyway.
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 21:03, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/about/company-overview/technology-leadership/technology-licensing/dmr-essentials-licensing-program.html The ETSI Standard requires licensing of included intellectual property.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Eubank, Greg (MVA) <Greg.Eubank@...> wrote: I believe that DMR is not the issue, but infringing on the Motorola PROPRIETARY version of DMR (Called Moto TRBO) is the issue at hand. There are several other flavors of DMR, DMR Tier-1 and Tier-2, which I believe do NOT infringe on the TRBO patent. Please correct me if I am WRONG, --
John D. Hays Edmonds, WA K7VE
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Eubank, Greg (MVA) <Greg.Eubank@...>
I believe that DMR is not the issue, but infringing on the Motorola PROPRIETARY version of DMR (Called Moto TRBO) is the issue at hand. There are several other flavors of DMR, DMR Tier-1 and Tier-2, which I believe do NOT infringe on the TRBO patent. Please correct me if I am WRONG,
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From: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io [mailto:main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 9:10 AM To: main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io Subject: Re: [nw-digital-radio] ThumbDV + DMR + Mac? Mike: NWDR has discussed this several times in talks that I've attended, that implementing a DMR compatible mode for Thumb DV and their other voice codec products is fraught with peril over patent issues by Motorola, and thus they don't intend to directly support DMR. If it were me in your situation, I'd buy one of the small hotspots that support multiple voice modes that include DMR. It's not that much more to carry, and it's plug and play, unlike a Raspberry Pi solution. I'd get one that supports Ethernet so you can just plug it into your Mac's Ethernet port when it's on Wi-Fi. Steve N8GNJ On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Michael Marusin <mike@marusin.com> wrote: Hey everyone - does anyone know of options to access DMR through a -- Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@gmail.com
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Mike - KB8ZGL <wolthuis@...>
So, one thought, not sure who has played with it. Many of the XLX reflectors (ie. XLX004 A - that I run) has a transcoder (produced by NWDR) on it. Thus XLX004 A is really MI5 SW2 DMR.
I just downloaded Buster (thanks for the headsup on that) and have it tied to my network DV3000. I connected to XLX004 A and am transcoding D-STAR to DMR.... Lots of testing yet, but it is fun. Mike Kb8zgl On 8/1/18, 1:28 PM, "Steve Stroh" <main@nw-digital-radio.groups.io on behalf of steve.stroh@gmail.com> wrote: Apologies for my inadvertently conflating Buster and NWDR's products. In my reply, I was specifically referring to (but not being explicit about) products made (or proposed) by NWDR, such as the late, and very lamented UDRX radio, and overall explaining that NWDR seems very cautious about DMR. In talks he's given over the years, Bryan K7UDR was asked several times if the UDRX would support digital voice modes such as D-Star, DMR, P25, etc. Bryan explained the issue with Motorola asserting various patents relating to DMR, and then said that because of that, NWDR wouldn't, itself, be supporting DMR, but that with the right software (NOT supplied by NWDR), its products could do DMR... the entire point of open source software. Thanks, Steve N8GNJ On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@nh6z.net> wrote: > And to be crystal clear on this: > > Buster is *NOT* a NWDR product. It is a personal project I started to scratch a personal itch I had. I released it to others in hopes that it would be useful. It is not in any way supported by NWDR other than making the hardware that I support. Yes, I am a partner in NWDR, but Buster is separate from that position. > > — Anna, NH6Z -- Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@gmail.com
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Steve Stroh
Apologies for my inadvertently conflating Buster and NWDR's products.
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In my reply, I was specifically referring to (but not being explicit about) products made (or proposed) by NWDR, such as the late, and very lamented UDRX radio, and overall explaining that NWDR seems very cautious about DMR. In talks he's given over the years, Bryan K7UDR was asked several times if the UDRX would support digital voice modes such as D-Star, DMR, P25, etc. Bryan explained the issue with Motorola asserting various patents relating to DMR, and then said that because of that, NWDR wouldn't, itself, be supporting DMR, but that with the right software (NOT supplied by NWDR), its products could do DMR... the entire point of open source software. Thanks, Steve N8GNJ
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@nh6z.net> wrote:
And to be crystal clear on this: --
Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@gmail.com
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Annaliese McDermond
And to be crystal clear on this:
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Buster is *NOT* a NWDR product. It is a personal project I started to scratch a personal itch I had. I released it to others in hopes that it would be useful. It is not in any way supported by NWDR other than making the hardware that I support. Yes, I am a partner in NWDR, but Buster is separate from that position. — Anna, NH6Z
On Aug 1, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Steve Stroh <steve.stroh@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Annaliese McDermond
Just a statement from the author:
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If someone would like DMR support in Buster, the source code is available on my GitHub account. I would be happy to take a pull request with DMR support as long as it’s well written. That being said, I have no interest personally in DMR, so I won’t be spending my time on writing that support. Open source projects like this are largely “scratch your own itch” based as far as features go. DMR support isn’t my itch, but I’m not going to stop anyone else from scratching theirs. And, no, monetary donations because you can’t code aren’t going to make DMR become any more itchy to me. — Anna, NH6Z
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Steve Stroh
Mike:
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NWDR has discussed this several times in talks that I've attended, that implementing a DMR compatible mode for Thumb DV and their other voice codec products is fraught with peril over patent issues by Motorola, and thus they don't intend to directly support DMR. If it were me in your situation, I'd buy one of the small hotspots that support multiple voice modes that include DMR. It's not that much more to carry, and it's plug and play, unlike a Raspberry Pi solution. I'd get one that supports Ethernet so you can just plug it into your Mac's Ethernet port when it's on Wi-Fi. Steve N8GNJ
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Michael Marusin <mike@marusin.com> wrote:
Hey everyone - does anyone know of options to access DMR through a ThumbDV --
Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@gmail.com
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Re: ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Hi Mike, You've probably already thought of this, but I do it occasionally using a Windows virtual machine and BlueDV on a MacBook Pro. I already run VMWare Fusion with a Windows VM for many other things where no Mac solution exists and I'm not sure I'd run a VM *just* to run DMR with a ThumbDV. But it is an option that works fairly well and will let you run both DMR and D-STAR at the same time. Brad N8QQ
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Michael Marusin <mike@...> wrote: Hey everyone - does anyone know of options to access DMR through a ThumbDV on a Mac?
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ThumbDV + DMR + Mac?
Michael Marusin
Hey everyone - does anyone know of options to access DMR through a ThumbDV on a Mac?
I know Buster supports DStar but am unaware of any other options to be able to connect to DMR while on a Mac. I travel a lot for work with my laptop and not carrying around a RPi or anything along those lines. Thoughts / suggestions? Thanks, Mike KC9YFH
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Re: AMBE3000 and BlueDV
BlueDV can talk to the ThumbDV directly or through AMBEserver, but not both at the same time. If you have setup a working instance of AMBEserver then in BlueDV select AMBEserver, not AMBE3000. If you want to use ThumbDV directly from BlueDV, make sure the AMBEserver is not active and select the AMBE3000 option along with the correct COM port and baud rate (460800 for current ThumbDV).
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Jim Brown via Groups.Io <w5zit@...> wrote:
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