Back in the mid 90s, when packet radio was well established in the PNW, Vancouver Island, the B.C. mainland, and the Puget Sound area was well served by a network of nodes and BBSs. The 1200 baud network used 2 meter, 220, and 440 frequencies to link node stacks such as VIC, SPR, PTN, SKAGIT, NMSL, BRMRTN etc. That network moved a lot of information around for the multiple BBSs in the area. Most of that network is now gone along with the BBSs which used that network for information distribution to hams.
VHF packet radio is still alive and well on Southern Vancouver Island where it is used to support local authorities in times of disaster when infrastructure fails ( 13 municipalities and 7 districts surrounding the Greater Victoria area. ) As well, Pactor 3 / 4 is used for long distance information exchange for EMBC, PSC and CFARS.
It is my hope that with the UDR-X that a version of that former network can be established as a point to multi-point "when all else fails" backup for internet infrastructure which is so now embedded in operations by local authorities. That is where my interest is dedicated in using the UDR-X and in support of that interest I have 7 UDR-Xs on order. 1200 baud is fine for text messaging and text emails. 1200 baud does not support picture and data base file transfers. It has been a long time coming for hardware that can provide a dramatic jump in data speed for the Amateur Radio Service. I had high hopes for the Icom ID-1 but with high feedline loss, line of sight propagation issues in the area, and high cost it did not become popular for use in my area. I did setup a trial where it was used in the Swiftsure boat race several years ago and many megabits of data...still pictures and 15 second videos were sent from several boats to a land based server...the weather, especially fog, decreased received signal to unusable levels...not really good for TCP/IP nets!
So, hopefully 440 will be the high speed data backbone answer. I can wait for NWDigital to put out a quality product complete with end user apps for those that don't or can't roll their own. Keep up the good work NWDigital Team and looking forward to receiving my order and start building the PNW Network.
Paul VE7DHM
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I'm waiting too.. I'm trying to setup a BBS in New Westminister, BC. I'm having issues with TNC not wanting to talk to BPQ. Issue with com ports on windows XP. Not know Linux. I'll need all the help I can get.
Don va7dgp
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On Monday, March 17, 2014, < ve7dhm@...> wrote:
Back in the mid 90s, when packet radio was well established in the PNW, Vancouver Island, the B.C. mainland, and the Puget Sound area was well served by a network of nodes and BBSs. The 1200 baud network used 2 meter, 220, and 440 frequencies to link node stacks
such as VIC, SPR, PTN, SKAGIT, NMSL, BRMRTN etc. That network moved a lot of information around for the multiple BBSs in the area. Most of that network is now gone along with the BBSs which used that network for information distribution to hams.
VHF packet radio is still alive and well on Southern Vancouver Island where it is used to support local authorities in times of disaster when infrastructure fails ( 13 municipalities and 7 districts surrounding the Greater Victoria area. ) As well,
Pactor 3 / 4 is used for long distance information exchange for EMBC, PSC and CFARS.
It is my hope that with the UDR-X that a version of that former network can be established as a point to multi-point "when all else fails"
backup for internet infrastructure which is so now embedded in operations by local authorities. That is where my interest is dedicated in using the UDR-X and in support of that interest I have 7 UDR-Xs on order. 1200 baud is fine for text messaging and
text emails. 1200 baud does not support picture and data base file transfers. It has been a long time coming for hardware that can provide a dramatic jump in data speed for the Amateur Radio Service. I had high hopes for the Icom ID-1 but with high feedline
loss, line of sight propagation issues in the area, and high cost it did not become popular for use in my area. I did setup a trial where it was used in the Swiftsure boat race several years ago and many megabits of data...still pictures and 15 second videos were
sent from several boats to a land based server...the weather, especially fog, decreased received signal to unusable levels...not really good for TCP/IP nets!
So, hopefully 440 will be the high speed data backbone answer. I
can wait for NWDigital to put out a quality product complete with end user apps for those that don't or can't roll their own. Keep up the good work NWDigital Team and looking forward to receiving my order and start building the PNW Network.
Paul VE7DHM
-- Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP
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So, hopefully 440 will be the high speed data backbone answer. Have you seen HamWAN? http://www.hamwan.org There are some differences of vision here but in general the HamWAN folks are doing a heroic job. That said, I'm hoping to see a robust wide area ad-hoc system evolve from the new functionality that UDR-X will bring. I can wait for NWDigital to put out a quality product Not me - I want it yesterday... Paul VE7DHM Bill, WA7NWP
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Back in the mid 90s, when packet radio was well established in the PNW, Vancouver Island, the B.C. mainland, and the Puget Sound area was well served by a network of nodes and BBSs. The 1200 baud network used 2 meter, 220, and 440 frequencies to link node stacks such as VIC, SPR, PTN, SKAGIT, NMSL, BRMRTN etc. That network moved a lot of information around for the multiple BBSs in the area. Most of that network is now gone along with the BBSs which used that network for information distribution to hams.
VHF packet radio is still alive and well on Southern Vancouver Island where it is used to support local authorities in times of disaster when infrastructure fails ( 13 municipalities and 7 districts surrounding the Greater Victoria area. ) As
well, Pactor 3 / 4 is used for long distance information exchange for EMBC, PSC and CFARS.
It is my hope that with the UDR-X that a version of that former network can be established as a point to multi-point "when all else fails" backup for internet infrastructure which is so now embedded in operations by local authorities. That is where my interest is dedicated in using the UDR-X and in support of that interest I have 7 UDR-Xs on order. 1200 baud is fine for text messaging and text emails. 1200 baud does not support picture and data base file transfers. It has been a long time coming for hardware that can provide a dramatic jump in data speed for the Amateur Radio Service. I had high hopes for the Icom ID-1 but with high
feedline loss, line of sight propagation issues in the area, and high cost it did not become popular for use in my area. I did setup a trial where it was used in the Swiftsure boat race several years ago and many megabits of data...still pictures and 15 second videos were sent from several boats to a land based server...the weather, especially fog, decreased received signal to unusable levels...not really good for TCP/IP nets!
So, hopefully 440 will be the high speed data backbone answer. I can wait for NWDigital to put out a quality product complete with end user apps for those that don't or can't roll their own. Keep up the good work NWDigital Team and looking forward to receiving my order and start building the PNW Network.
Paul VE7DHM
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM, flightresq@... <flightresq@...> wrote: Does anyone know the baud rate or hertz for project 25?
Not really sure what this has to do with the current thread, but... P25 Phase I is 4800 symbols per second - where each symbol encodes two bits of data for a raw bit rate of 9600 bps. Phase II is 6000 symbols per second where each symbol encodes two bits of data for a raw bit rate of 12000 bps. Tom KD7LXL
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Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:17:30 PM
Back in the mid 90s, when packet radio was well established in the PNW, Vancouver Island, the B.C. mainland, and the Puget Sound area was well served by a network of nodes and BBSs. The 1200 baud network used 2 meter, 220, and 440 frequencies to link node stacks such as VIC, SPR, PTN, SKAGIT, NMSL, BRMRTN etc. That network moved a lot of information around for the multiple BBSs in the area. Most of that network is now gone along with the BBSs which used that network for information distribution to hams.
VHF packet radio is still alive and well on Southern Vancouver Island where it is used to support local authorities in times of disaster when infrastructure fails ( 13 municipalities and 7 districts surrounding the Greater Victoria area. ) As
well, Pactor 3 / 4 is used for long distance information exchange for EMBC, PSC and CFARS.
It is my hope that with the UDR-X that a version of that former network can be established as a point to multi-point "when all else fails" backup for internet infrastructure which is so now embedded in operations by local authorities. That is where my interest is dedicated in using the UDR-X and in support of that interest I have 7 UDR-Xs on order. 1200 baud is fine for text messaging and text emails. 1200 baud does not support picture and data base file transfers. It has been a long time coming for hardware that can provide a dramatic jump in data speed for the Amateur Radio Service. I had high hopes for the Icom ID-1 but with high
feedline loss, line of sight propagation issues in the area, and high cost it did not become popular for use in my area. I did setup a trial where it was used in the Swiftsure boat race several years ago and many megabits of data...still pictures and 15 second videos were sent from several boats to a land based server...the weather, especially fog, decreased received signal to unusable levels...not really good for TCP/IP nets!
So, hopefully 440 will be the high speed data backbone answer. I can wait for NWDigital to put out a quality product complete with end user apps for those that don't or can't roll their own. Keep up the good work NWDigital Team and looking forward to receiving my order and start building the PNW Network.
Paul VE7DHM
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