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Re: Keying FT-8500 with UDRC-II

art upton <artupton@...>
 

Hi , is the radio set to 9600 baud for Packet?

However I could not ever get my older TM-733 Kenwood to talk to an MMDVM YSF/DMR modem at 9600.  Perhaps googling for 9600 baud issues if it wont work on the 9600 baud setting. 

Art


On Monday, November 5, 2018, 4:50:09 PM EST, Budd Churchward <budd@...> wrote:


I have an opportunity to pick up an extra radio for digital use. I am currently running a Yaesu FT-7800 and it works very well with the DIN plug on the back of the rig. A friend wants to sell his FT-8500 and loaned it to me to try it out. Both radios use the same configuration on the DIN plug. When I hook up the 8500 I have no trouble copying incoming data.

However, when I send, the transmitter keys for less than a second and stops even though the PTT LED on the UDRC-II stays on for the duration of the out going data.

Does anyone have any ideas why the 8500 won't hold the PTT for the whole time? There is no issue if I key the radio with the PTT on the microphone.

I am sure there is nothing wrong with the UDRC-II ... I can used it successfully with at least three other radios. Are there any FT-8500 owners out there that might steer me to a setting that I should change on the radio?

Budd Churchward WB7FHC


Re: DRAWS Ship Target Date

 

They are in rework now for LEDs BW. Should be shipping next week.

Bryan K7UDR


DRAWS Ship Target Date

Mike - KB0FX
 

John - Is there a target date you hope to begin shipping the units? 

73

Mike
KB0FX


DRAWS Update

 


k7udr posted: "First units arrived Saturday, and we have been testing thru the weekend. DRAWS is fully functional and we have a few minor assembly issues to resolve before shipping.  "

New post on NW Digital Radio

DRAWS Update

by k7udr

First units arrived Saturday, and we have been testing thru the weekend. DRAWS is fully functional and we have a few minor assembly issues to resolve before shipping.

NWDR Digital Radio Amateur WorkStation

 

k7udr | November 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm | Categories: DRAWS | URL: https://wp.me/p2mAAP-1p2


Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser:
http://nwdigitalradio.com/draws-update/


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Keying FT-8500 with UDRC-II

Budd Churchward
 

I have an opportunity to pick up an extra radio for digital use. I am currently running a Yaesu FT-7800 and it works very well with the DIN plug on the back of the rig. A friend wants to sell his FT-8500 and loaned it to me to try it out. Both radios use the same configuration on the DIN plug. When I hook up the 8500 I have no trouble copying incoming data.

However, when I send, the transmitter keys for less than a second and stops even though the PTT LED on the UDRC-II stays on for the duration of the out going data.

Does anyone have any ideas why the 8500 won't hold the PTT for the whole time? There is no issue if I key the radio with the PTT on the microphone.

I am sure there is nothing wrong with the UDRC-II ... I can used it successfully with at least three other radios. Are there any FT-8500 owners out there that might steer me to a setting that I should change on the radio?

Budd Churchward WB7FHC


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

Matt Trull
 

I will give that a check soon. Thanks!

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM art upton via Groups.Io <artupton=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I can verify that the non-refurbed DR1-Xs both 1.0x and 1.10x firmware work with proper d-star audio levels with UDRC-II  with firmware in the past 18 months.
 
I have been told that the 9600 baud option is not available in the Refurbs as Yeasu does not want folks buying them to use other brand radios on, which is understandable.

Can you verify that the 9600 baud option is turned on in the settings? Follow the setup picture on where to hold the tx frequency on a long press to get the switch each time between 1200 baud and 9600 baud.

Also check the firmware level/dates.

Art K8XG

On Thursday, November 1, 2018, 7:56:04 PM EDT, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


We don't know for sure, but we think that the refurbs are actively trying to block any external modem.

The original should have worked, if the directions were carefully followed (with no internal modifications).

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:52 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
It is a refurb, but I don't recall the firmware version off the top of my head. We also tried it with the non-refurb DR1X that we have, and had the same TX audio issue. The levels would just never come up where it needed to be. We modded the DR1X, and were able to get proper output using another DVM board (STM32-DVM), so now I was trying to get the UDRC going as well.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:46 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Is the DR-1X a newer referb? What firmware does it have?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:40 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

art upton <artupton@...>
 

I can verify that the non-refurbed DR1-Xs both 1.0x and 1.10x firmware work with proper d-star audio levels with UDRC-II  with firmware in the past 18 months.
 
I have been told that the 9600 baud option is not available in the Refurbs as Yeasu does not want folks buying them to use other brand radios on, which is understandable.

Can you verify that the 9600 baud option is turned on in the settings? Follow the setup picture on where to hold the tx frequency on a long press to get the switch each time between 1200 baud and 9600 baud.

Also check the firmware level/dates.

Art K8XG

On Thursday, November 1, 2018, 7:56:04 PM EDT, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


We don't know for sure, but we think that the refurbs are actively trying to block any external modem.

The original should have worked, if the directions were carefully followed (with no internal modifications).

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:52 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
It is a refurb, but I don't recall the firmware version off the top of my head. We also tried it with the non-refurb DR1X that we have, and had the same TX audio issue. The levels would just never come up where it needed to be. We modded the DR1X, and were able to get proper output using another DVM board (STM32-DVM), so now I was trying to get the UDRC going as well.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:46 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Is the DR-1X a newer referb? What firmware does it have?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:40 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

 

We don't know for sure, but we think that the refurbs are actively trying to block any external modem.

The original should have worked, if the directions were carefully followed (with no internal modifications).

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:52 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
It is a refurb, but I don't recall the firmware version off the top of my head. We also tried it with the non-refurb DR1X that we have, and had the same TX audio issue. The levels would just never come up where it needed to be. We modded the DR1X, and were able to get proper output using another DVM board (STM32-DVM), so now I was trying to get the UDRC going as well.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:46 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Is the DR-1X a newer referb? What firmware does it have?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:40 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

Matt Trull
 

It is a refurb, but I don't recall the firmware version off the top of my head. We also tried it with the non-refurb DR1X that we have, and had the same TX audio issue. The levels would just never come up where it needed to be. We modded the DR1X, and were able to get proper output using another DVM board (STM32-DVM), so now I was trying to get the UDRC going as well.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:46 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Is the DR-1X a newer referb? What firmware does it have?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:40 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

 

Is the DR-1X a newer referb? What firmware does it have?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:40 PM Matt Trull <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

Matt Trull
 

I am attempting to make a straight through custom cable that breaks out the PTT and Audio Out lines. I have performed the modification to the DR1-X cable that connects the receiver and transmitter so that I can tap directly into those two lines, bypassing any audio processing in the DR1X. We (club) hooked up the UDRC with the straight through cable you can purchase with it, and it worked fine...except we could never get the audio levels to output a proper D-Star signal. The fix/mod to work around that is to tap directly into the audio line going to the transmitter. I tried making a straight through cable, but the Pi isn't powering up, so I have something crossed somewhere. If you look at the pinout in the UDRC schematic, it looks like the middle row of pins should be shifted to the right.


Thanks,
Matt KX4GG


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:47 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

 

The UDRC/UDRC-II 15-PIN connector is aligned to connect to the DR-1X HD-15 connector using a straight through 15 line cable.  This was created to be a plug to plug connection.  We are not sure that refurbished DR-1X repeaters being resold since the release of the DR-2X have the same pin wiring.

What are you trying to solve?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:39 PM <Oxyacetylene@...> wrote:
I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Pinout for the board #udrc-ii

Matt Trull
 

I have a question about the pinout shown in the wiring diagram. Is this shown from the rear, or from the front, like you were looking at the connector face? The pin orientation is off from that of the actual DR1-X repeater.


Re: Linux RMS - headed for digital dustbin?

Basil Gunn
 

It appears that LinuxRMS may stop working in the near future when Winlink
CMS stops supporting legacy mode.
It appears that is not the case.

RMS Gateway upgrade notes for new Winlink Web Services
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LinuxRMS/conversations/messages/2775

/Basil n7nix


Re: [New post] DRAWS Production Status

Alex Perez
 

Jeez, give it a rest.


Re: [New post] DRAWS Production Status

kc7pmu
 


-- Update?

Paul
kc7pmu


Re: DRAWS to Elecraft KX3

Frank Ivan
 

Thank you Annaliese.

I have been writing OS’s and device drivers for more years than I like to think about.

You have given me what I think I need and I won’t bug you. I will make anything I get going available in a GitHub repo.

Thanks and 73 Frank - K0FEI

On Oct 19, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Annaliese McDermond <nh6z@...> wrote:



On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Frank Ivan via Groups.Io <k0fei=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am going to try to get a NanoPi-M4 to interface to the DRAWS and will post the result along with the cable to the KX3.
The UDRC driver expects to see a bcm2835 i2s device to set up the DAI links. You’ll need to write a new ASoC driver if the I2S device isn’t compatible with the bcm2835 one, which is pretty likely. The UDRC glue driver source is at:

https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/udr/mcdermj/sound/soc/bcm/udrc.c

You’ll also need to set up the device tree to link up the correct i2c device to the whole thing and cause it to load. See the UDRC’s device tree

https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/udr/mcdermj/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/udrc-overlay.dts

You might also be able to hack up a device tree using the ASoC simple_card driver to glue them both together instead. See the docs at https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/master/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/simple-card.txt.

Note that while sometimes you might get me to opine vaguely about possibilities and where to look, neither I nor NWDR support using the DRAWS/UDRC on anything but a RPi.


Frank K0FEI
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Annaliese McDermond (NH6Z)
Xenotropic Systems
mcdermj@...




Re: DRAWS to Elecraft KX3

Annaliese McDermond
 

On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Frank Ivan via Groups.Io <k0fei=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am going to try to get a NanoPi-M4 to interface to the DRAWS and will post the result along with the cable to the KX3.
The UDRC driver expects to see a bcm2835 i2s device to set up the DAI links. You’ll need to write a new ASoC driver if the I2S device isn’t compatible with the bcm2835 one, which is pretty likely. The UDRC glue driver source is at:

https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/udr/mcdermj/sound/soc/bcm/udrc.c

You’ll also need to set up the device tree to link up the correct i2c device to the whole thing and cause it to load. See the UDRC’s device tree

https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/udr/mcdermj/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/udrc-overlay.dts

You might also be able to hack up a device tree using the ASoC simple_card driver to glue them both together instead. See the docs at https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/linux/blob/master/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/simple-card.txt.

Note that while sometimes you might get me to opine vaguely about possibilities and where to look, neither I nor NWDR support using the DRAWS/UDRC on anything but a RPi.


Frank K0FEI
--
Annaliese McDermond (NH6Z)
Xenotropic Systems
mcdermj@...


Re: DRAWS to Elecraft KX3

Corky Searls
 

Yes, all of the necessary signal lines are present and it works great with either a KX2 or KX3 (both use the same cable). I can post a copy of the connections for the cable early next week.

Thanks,
-Corky

On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:39 AM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

Ok, I just want to toss this out and see if I'm even in the ballpark.

The DRAWS comes with a couple of 6-pin mini-DIN cables. Excellent.
I'll supply a Pi3b+, or would a regular 3b be better?

Do those 6 pin mini-DIN jacks have the signal lines necessary to connect the DRAWS to an Elecraft KX3's mic and phones jacks with the correct TRRS connectors? Anyone know off their head how to wire that? I can figure it out if I have to, but has anyone already figured out this wiring?

My plan is a portable QRP digital mode station...or maybe using the 100W amp with it. I'm basically doing that right now, with a USB sound card dongle connected to my ASUS VivoMini Win10 workbench PC. I'm thinking the DRAWS/Pi, headless maybe with a form of VNC, connecting to a Chromebook or tablet for input/output for the various software packages being used, would be a compact and self-contained portable digital station. Have I got this right? I hope so, I already ordered the DRAWS. ;)

Gwen, NG3P


Re: DRAWS to Elecraft KX3

Frank Ivan
 

The mini-6 din has what is needed to make a “cable” to the mic and headphone jacks on the KX3.  You can also make a plug for the 4 x 2 connector on the DRAWS with a RS-232 level shifter chip to drive the ACC jack of the KX3 to control the rig.

I am using a pi headless to drive a Rigblaster to a KX3 and when the band is very active, the pi takes too long to decode the input.  I am going to try to get a NanoPi-M4 to interface to the DRAWS and will post the result along with the cable to the KX3.

Frank K0FEI


On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:39 PM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

Ok, I just want to toss this out and see if I'm even in the ballpark.

The DRAWS comes with a couple of 6-pin mini-DIN cables. Excellent.
I'll supply a Pi3b+, or would a regular 3b be better?

Do those 6 pin mini-DIN jacks have the signal lines necessary to connect the DRAWS to an Elecraft KX3's mic and phones jacks with the correct TRRS connectors? Anyone know off their head how to wire that? I can figure it out if I have to, but has anyone already figured out this wiring?

My plan is a portable QRP digital mode station...or maybe using the 100W amp with it. I'm basically doing that right now, with a USB sound card dongle connected to my ASUS VivoMini Win10 workbench PC. I'm thinking the DRAWS/Pi, headless maybe with a form of VNC, connecting to a Chromebook or tablet for input/output for the various software packages being used, would be a compact and self-contained portable digital station. Have I got this right? I hope so, I already ordered the DRAWS. ;)

Gwen, NG3P