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Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Tim Ciesluk
 

Hi Basil and Jack,

Let me preface by saying that I am very interested in the progress you are making as I too have an IC-7000. I wish I had time to test but we just had a newborn arrive in December keeping us very busy. You caught me by surprise saying you’re using the ACC port with FLDigi. I remember some years ago using Fldigi for HF with a West Mountain Plug&Play attached to the data port on an IC-7000. The radio was basically default settings and in SSB mode. I don’t recall anything special being necessary on the radio for settings. Just to be sure the drive (pc sound card output) wasn’t too much for the radio. This setup worked modes like JT65, PSK31, and Olivia. If I find any time, I will try to find out more details about that setup. I want to attach some details from the user manual regarding voltages for the data port and describes a way to test the input from the TNC that may be useful.

I hope I’m adding to the conversation. Please let me know if I’m not. I’d really like to see this succeed.

73,
Tim - KU1G


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Jack Spitznagel
 

Basil,

 

Thanks again for your comments and special thanks ahead of time to John for doing that GUI menu. It will make a big difference during setup.

 

I fear this post will get too long if I just comment in your reply so I have pulled your comments and questions up to address here. You commented/asked:

 

On HF/VHF/UHF radios

> This is not unexpected the FT-817 and any HF VHF/UHF radio has 2 distinct radios so would not expect that the level

> settings for VHF would also work on HF.

 

Interestingly, for the FT-817, the original settings did not work but my settings do work for FM and SSB without alteration when the settings are changed from the setalsa-ft817.sh script as I did below:

 

>> ===== ALSA Controls for Radio Tansmit ===== <

>> LO Driver Gain                   L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

>> PCM                                      L:[-8.00dB]          R:[-8.00dB]

>> DAC Playback PT               L:[PTM_P1]        R:[PTM_P1]

>> LO Playback CM                [Full Chip CM]

>> 

>> ===== ALSA Controls for Radio Receive =====

>> ADC Level            L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

>> IN1                         L:[Off]                   R:[Off]

>> IN2                         L:[10 kOhm]       R:[10 kOhm]

 

 

NOTE: What I can’t find in any of my “all band rig” documentation is where the modulator input sensitivities are called out as being different between the different modes (FM vs SSB).

 

If there is a really important difference for some radios, you may want to clarify in the script filenames that the settings in each radio specific "setalsa-*.sh" script is for VHF/UHF or HF. This may well be true for a premium radio like the IC-9100.

 

From where you were talking about use of the measure_deviate script:

> This script is used to set FM deviation.

> Although the observation is interesting it doesn't make sense to use this tool on SSB.

 

Understood. It was a convenient way to generate and TX a tone for 60 seconds at 1000Hz to quickly test what was happening and it uncovered the difference between app function and "direct audio drive with keyup". I was using an adjustable wrench as a hammer as usual. Probably broke something in the process. Mea culpa.

 

> The problem I have is I don't know what your radio settings are so that I can compare them with what Corky & I were

> using. I think we need to identify the critical controls or even better do a factory reset on the radio to set all controls

> to a known value.

 

On the last go around with Beta 7, I started with a factory reset of the IC-7000. Outside of a few things like my callsign on the start screen and setting the local time properly, everything is the factory default. Happy to share the RT Systems “rig settings” page if needed.

 

> Also have you checked out Bryan's YouTube video for setting ALSA controls using TX Calc spreadsheet:

> https://youtu.be/RxWiDYMcRn4

 

Yes, it is a very nice tool for determining good starting values for radios. I used it for the 7000 with a value of 100mV (modulator input for the 13-pin ACC socket of  IC-7000, the DATA socket value is not given and is probably not different). Here is the table I generated for the radios I plan to use with the DRAWS board:

 

 

 

3204 0dB REF

Digital

Line Output

Radio

 

Vtx mV

500

PCM

LO

CODEC

Peak to Peak

1414

 

Peak

707

 

RMS

500

0.0

0

0.0

 

Elecraft KX3

Peak to Peak

300

HF USB

Peak

150

Check Mic Gain

RMS

106

-13.5

-7.5

-6.0

 

IC-7000

Peak to Peak

100

HF USB

Peak

50

Check Mic Gain

RMS

35

-23.0

-17.0

-6.0

 

FT-817

Peak to Peak

1000

HF USB

Peak

500

Check Mic Gain

RMS

354

-3.0

0.0

-3.0

 

Have not fully tested the KX3 yet. It should be capable of HF digital in SSB and 2M AFSK packet.

 

> I will continue to try & replicate your results although I currently do not have access to either the FT-817 or

> IC-7000 but I have located an IC-7000 that Bryan can examine. Should have it to him by this Friday.

 

The inconvenient problem I run into is with the IC-7000 is that there is no adjustment for the AFSK input for HF. This has been noted for the SignaLink and other sound devices – It makes audio card output adjustment really touchy. Here are the two counter-effect problems I see:

  1. To get the tone significantly above the noise level, LO Drive and PCM needs to be higher than the 7000 script sets up.
  2. Setting the PTM values to PTM-P1 brings the PCM critical point for the noise problem up to just under -17dB from -24dB at PTM-P3.

 

As a result of the DRAWS IC-7000 settings being so very low, produced output levels are at the point where the “background noise” is as high as or higher than the tone for me. The combination of these results in a significant ALC reading on the 7000 in USB.

  1. The first instance results in distortion and IMD artifacts in the TX signal and an elevated and “pumping” ALC reading with all kinds of distortion artifacts.
  2. If the LO Drive and PCM levels are increased to get the tone up out of the noise, then the ALC stops pumping and quickly becomes pegged. The TX signal then has ALC clipping distortion artifacts.

 

Why both fldigi and wsjt-x now produce a significantly lower transmit level output from the DRAWS to the IC-7000 than the direct tone generation approach is a real mystery to me. The output to the FT-817 from those programs does not seem to differ significantly. This behavior originally began with Beta 6 for wsjt-x only then fldigi began acting this way with Beta 7.

 

Hope my answers help as you begin checking out the situation. I would be happy to turn this into a “Check this” type bullet list if you and Bryan want one.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 


--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

Roderick Wayne Hart Sr.
 

I'll reflash. Thanks.

Rod Hart



On January 8, 2019, at 11:19 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


If you have a UDRC, look in config.txt and see if it is loading draws and change it to udrc

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 19:58 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:

Yes. It runs version 5 ok. I believe something is mangled in config.txt. It looks like the drivers are loaded there. The fact that it says Draws installed but looks for and can not find udrc is confusing.

Rod Hart



On January 8, 2019, at 10:04 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


Is your DRAWS board installed and property seated?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 18:20 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:
I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Basil Gunn
 

See embedded below.

Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg> writes:

Just noticed I got bit by my cut/paste haste!

I used the setalsa-ic7000.sh script to initially set audio levels for
that radio. All else is correct.

Jack - KD4IZ
On Jan 7, 2019, at 23:10, Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg> wrote:

Hi Basil,

Beta 7 installed and the core config executed according to
instructions. Comment: It is getting really easy to run the entire
setup now with experience. Hopefully someone with good coding skills
(and the time to do it) can turn the process into menu panels or even
GUI driven setup eventually. Understand the time restrictions there.
John is working on a GUI config program

Ran the verifications - all were OK. The set up apps:
Listened/watched panscope using other radios. TX was into dummy load.

Config for FT-817:
Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio and set the FT-817
menu items as suggested in the documentation:

Test Results:
- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level (but did not check deviation).
- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran fldigi – at the shipped FT-817 alsa
settings, transmit tone was noisy/ALC too high
This is not unexpected the FT-817 and any HF VHF/UHF radio has 2
distinct radios so would not expect that the level settings for VHF
would also work on HF.

- To get clean tone, I had to change my ALSA settings back to:
===== ALSA Controls for Radio Tansmit ===== <
LO Driver Gain L:[-2.00dB] R:[-2.00dB]
PCM L:[-8.00dB] R:[-8.00dB]
DAC Playback PT L:[PTM_P1] R:[PTM_P1]
LO Playback CM [Full Chip CM]

===== ALSA Controls for Radio Receive =====
ADC Level L:[-2.00dB] R:[-2.00dB]
IN1 L:[Off] R:[Off]
IN2 L:[10 kOhm] R:[10 kOhm]

- AND had to reduce the FT-817 [menu #25] DIG MIC is setting to 25 (from suggested 65) to get no ALC and clean output.

After these changes audio levels were good and was able to QSO in fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.

Config for IC-7000: (I have a headache…)

-Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio.
Should be setalsa-ic7000.sh as you mentioned above.

- Test Result:
- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level but again did not check deviation.
- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.
**** - transmit level was noisy with no tone and no power.
**** - increasing PCM and LO Drive brought tone up out of noise – but no power still with rig set to 25% output.
- Ran the setalsa-udrc-din6.sh to “zero” the settings.
Why not setalsa-default.sh?

****- same result regardless of PTM setting or the levels of PCM and LO Drive

**** Here is where it got weird ****
Reset DRAWS to the FT-817 settings above, rebooted and accidentally
left the radio on SSB when I started Direwolf/Xastir.

**** The initial packet from Xastir drove the rig to the set power level!
-Shutdown direwolf/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x
**** - got very low output with both as before

**** Here it got even more weird ****
I ran the measure_deviate.sh script in ~/n7nix/deviation and it drove
the radio to set power and pegged the ALC!!!
This script is used to set FM deviation.
Although the observation is interesting it doesn't make sense to use
this tool on SSB.

To rule out that something is wrong with the IC-7000, I hooked it up
to my laptop/SignaLink USB/using fldigi and drove the rig full power
with no ALC. Nothing is wrong with the IC-7000.

SO the big question now is why will direwolf and measure_deviate.sh
drive the IC-7000 to set power (too much ALC) in USB when neither
wsjt-x or fldigi will produce enough audio *at identical alsamixer
settings*?

This is not what you and Corky reported the other day… and I am
really puzzled.
The problem I have is I don't know what your radio settings are so that
I can compare them with what Corky & I were using. I think we need to
identify the critical controls or even better do a factory reset on the
radio to set all controls to a known value.

Also have you checked out Bryan's YouTube video for setting ALSA
controls using TX Calc spreadsheet: https://youtu.be/RxWiDYMcRn4

* TX Calc spreadsheet:
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/files/TX%20Calc.xlsx

I will continue to try & replicate your results although I currently do not have
access to either the FT-817 or IC-7000 but I have located an IC-7000
that Bryan can examine. Should have it to him by this Friday.

/Basil


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

Basil Gunn
 

Did you follow the instructions found here:
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/wiki/DRAWS%3A-Getting-Started

As user pi could you please send us the console output of showudrc.sh.

Thanks,
/Basil

Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@...> writes:

I get the following msg

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

 

If you have a UDRC, look in config.txt and see if it is loading draws and change it to udrc


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 19:58 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:

Yes. It runs version 5 ok. I believe something is mangled in config.txt. It looks like the drivers are loaded there. The fact that it says Draws installed but looks for and can not find udrc is confusing.

Rod Hart



On January 8, 2019, at 10:04 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


Is your DRAWS board installed and property seated?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 18:20 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:
I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

Roderick Wayne Hart Sr.
 

Yes. It runs version 5 ok. I believe something is mangled in config.txt. It looks like the drivers are loaded there. The fact that it says Draws installed but looks for and can not find udrc is confusing.

Rod Hart



On January 8, 2019, at 10:04 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


Is your DRAWS board installed and property seated?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 18:20 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:
I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

 

Is your DRAWS board installed and property seated?


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 18:20 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:
I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

Roderick Wayne Hart Sr.
 

I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Following up.........

I was able to download the file at work and successfully unzip it there.

Weird error.

On 1/8/2019 5:57 AM, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ wrote:
Jack,

Understood. Just not working for me at the moment.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 9:18 PM, Jack Spitznagel wrote:
Ed,

I use Firefox (current version) on Win 10 and had no problem with the download. The zipfile was in the Downloads folder. It unzipped using the built in "Extract All" from the right mouse button context menu into a folder by the same name. I was able to quickly use Balena Etcher to write the image microSD card. Just make sure you know where Firefox puts its downloads or use the link in the upper right of FF to go to the folder directly after the download completes.

Jack - KD4IZ

-----Original Message-----
From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 21:00
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] #BETA7 Download

1) I used the following link as found in the 6 Jan e-mail annoucing the release

http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads

2) I am using FireFox
3) I clicked on each file name from the above link and the dot zip file started the auto transfer
4) I do not have File Downloader but I will see if I can find it.

Should I try a link from the webpage?

73s, Ed, KD9RQ

On 1/7/2019 7:45 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows
guys on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from
which to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and
current_beta.zip when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you have.
Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil











Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Jack,

Understood. Just not working for me at the moment.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ

On 1/7/2019 9:18 PM, Jack Spitznagel wrote:
Ed,

I use Firefox (current version) on Win 10 and had no problem with the download. The zipfile was in the Downloads folder. It unzipped using the built in "Extract All" from the right mouse button context menu into a folder by the same name. I was able to quickly use Balena Etcher to write the image microSD card. Just make sure you know where Firefox puts its downloads or use the link in the upper right of FF to go to the folder directly after the download completes.

Jack - KD4IZ

-----Original Message-----
From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 21:00
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] #BETA7 Download

1) I used the following link as found in the 6 Jan e-mail annoucing the release

http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads

2) I am using FireFox
3) I clicked on each file name from the above link and the dot zip file started the auto transfer
4) I do not have File Downloader but I will see if I can find it.

Should I try a link from the webpage?

73s, Ed, KD9RQ

On 1/7/2019 7:45 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows
guys on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from
which to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and
current_beta.zip when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you have.
Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil









PC-ALE port to DRAWS?

Doug Yuill
 

Is anyone considering a port of PC-ALE to DRAWS? If so, I'm available to help with the testing and validation! 

de VE3OCU in Smith Falls Ontario 


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Jack Spitznagel
 

Just noticed I got bit by my cut/paste haste!

I used the setalsa-ic7000.sh script to initially set audio levels for that radio. All else is correct.

Jack - KD4IZ 

On Jan 7, 2019, at 23:10, Jack Spitznagel <kd4iz@...> wrote:

Hi Basil,

 

Beta 7 installed and the core config executed according to instructions.

Comment: It is getting really easy to run the entire setup now with experience. Hopefully someone with good coding skills (and the time to do it) can turn the process into menu panels or even GUI driven setup eventually. Understand the time restrictions there.

 

Ran the verifications - all were OK. The set up apps:

Listened/watched panscope using other radios. TX was into dummy load.

 

  1. Config for FT-817:

Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio and set the FT-817 menu items as suggested in the documentation:

Test Results:

- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level (but did not check deviation).

- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran fldigi – at the shipped FT-817 alsa settings, transmit tone was noisy/ALC too high

 

- To get clean tone, I had to change my ALSA settings back to:

===== ALSA Controls for Radio Tansmit ===== <

LO Driver Gain                   L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

PCM                                      L:[-8.00dB]          R:[-8.00dB]

DAC Playback PT               L:[PTM_P1]        R:[PTM_P1]

LO Playback CM                [Full Chip CM]

 

===== ALSA Controls for Radio Receive =====

ADC Level            L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

IN1                         L:[Off]                   R:[Off]

IN2                         L:[10 kOhm]       R:[10 kOhm]

 

- AND had to reduce the FT-817 [menu #25] DIG MIC is setting to 25 (from suggested 65) to get no ALC and clean output.

 

After these changes audio levels were good and was able to QSO in fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.

 

Config for IC-7000: (I have a headache…)

 

-Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio.

- Test Result:

- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level but again did not check deviation.

- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.

**** - transmit level was noisy with no tone and no power.

**** - increasing PCM and LO Drive brought tone up out of noise – but no power still with rig set to 25% output.

- Ran the setalsa-udrc-din6.sh to “zero” the settings.

****- same result regardless of PTM setting or the levels of PCM and LO Drive

 

**** Here is where it got weird ****

Reset DRAWS to the FT-817 settings above, rebooted and accidentally left the radio on SSB when I started Direwolf/Xastir.

**** The initial packet from Xastir drove the rig to the set power level!

-Shutdown direwolf/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x

**** - got very low output with both as before

 

**** Here it got even more weird ****

I ran the measure_deviate.sh script in ~/n7nix/deviation and it drove the radio to set power and pegged the ALC!!!

 

To rule out that something is wrong with the IC-7000, I hooked it up to my laptop/SignaLink USB/using fldigi and drove the rig full power with no ALC. Nothing is wrong with the IC-7000.

 

SO the big question now is why will direwolf and measure_deviate.sh drive the IC-7000 to set power (too much ALC) in USB when neither wsjt-x or fldigi will produce enough audio *at identical alsamixer settings*?

 

This is not what you and Corky reported the other day… and I am really puzzled.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

 


--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ

--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Jack Spitznagel
 

Hi Basil,

 

Beta 7 installed and the core config executed according to instructions.

Comment: It is getting really easy to run the entire setup now with experience. Hopefully someone with good coding skills (and the time to do it) can turn the process into menu panels or even GUI driven setup eventually. Understand the time restrictions there.

 

Ran the verifications - all were OK. The set up apps:

Listened/watched panscope using other radios. TX was into dummy load.

 

  1. Config for FT-817:

Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio and set the FT-817 menu items as suggested in the documentation:

Test Results:

- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level (but did not check deviation).

- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran fldigi – at the shipped FT-817 alsa settings, transmit tone was noisy/ALC too high

 

- To get clean tone, I had to change my ALSA settings back to:

===== ALSA Controls for Radio Tansmit ===== <

LO Driver Gain                   L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

PCM                                      L:[-8.00dB]          R:[-8.00dB]

DAC Playback PT               L:[PTM_P1]        R:[PTM_P1]

LO Playback CM                [Full Chip CM]

 

===== ALSA Controls for Radio Receive =====

ADC Level            L:[-2.00dB]          R:[-2.00dB]

IN1                         L:[Off]                   R:[Off]

IN2                         L:[10 kOhm]       R:[10 kOhm]

 

- AND had to reduce the FT-817 [menu #25] DIG MIC is setting to 25 (from suggested 65) to get no ALC and clean output.

 

After these changes audio levels were good and was able to QSO in fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.

 

Config for IC-7000: (I have a headache…)

 

-Used setalsa-ft817.sh to configure for that radio.

- Test Result:

- Direwolf/Xastir works OK at that level but again did not check deviation.

- Killed AX25/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x FT8 mode.

**** - transmit level was noisy with no tone and no power.

**** - increasing PCM and LO Drive brought tone up out of noise – but no power still with rig set to 25% output.

- Ran the setalsa-udrc-din6.sh to “zero” the settings.

****- same result regardless of PTM setting or the levels of PCM and LO Drive

 

**** Here is where it got weird ****

Reset DRAWS to the FT-817 settings above, rebooted and accidentally left the radio on SSB when I started Direwolf/Xastir.

**** The initial packet from Xastir drove the rig to the set power level!

-Shutdown direwolf/Xastir and ran both fldigi and wsjt-x

**** - got very low output with both as before

 

**** Here it got even more weird ****

I ran the measure_deviate.sh script in ~/n7nix/deviation and it drove the radio to set power and pegged the ALC!!!

 

To rule out that something is wrong with the IC-7000, I hooked it up to my laptop/SignaLink USB/using fldigi and drove the rig full power with no ALC. Nothing is wrong with the IC-7000.

 

SO the big question now is why will direwolf and measure_deviate.sh drive the IC-7000 to set power (too much ALC) in USB when neither wsjt-x or fldigi will produce enough audio *at identical alsamixer settings*?

 

This is not what you and Corky reported the other day… and I am really puzzled.

 

KD4IZ

Jack Spitznagel

FM19oo

 

 

 

 


--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Jack Spitznagel
 

Ed,

I use Firefox (current version) on Win 10 and had no problem with the download. The zipfile was in the Downloads folder. It unzipped using the built in "Extract All" from the right mouse button context menu into a folder by the same name. I was able to quickly use Balena Etcher to write the image microSD card. Just make sure you know where Firefox puts its downloads or use the link in the upper right of FF to go to the folder directly after the download completes.

Jack - KD4IZ

-----Original Message-----
From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 21:00
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] #BETA7 Download

1) I used the following link as found in the 6 Jan e-mail annoucing the release

http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads

2) I am using FireFox
3) I clicked on each file name from the above link and the dot zip file started the auto transfer
4) I do not have File Downloader but I will see if I can find it.

Should I try a link from the webpage?

73s, Ed, KD9RQ

On 1/7/2019 7:45 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:

My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows
guys on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from
which to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and
current_beta.zip when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you have.
Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil











--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

1) I used the following link as found in the 6 Jan e-mail annoucing the release

http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads

2) I am using FireFox
3) I clicked on each file name from the above link and the dot zip file started the auto transfer
4) I do not have File Downloader but I will see if I can find it.

Should I try a link from the webpage?

73s, Ed, KD9RQ

On 1/7/2019 7:45 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:

My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows guys
on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from which
to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and current_beta.zip
when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you
have. Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil





Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Basil Gunn
 

Sorry I assumed you are having a download problem but I believe your
problem is with unzipping not downloading.

I will defer to people with more Windows experience. Do you just use the
File Manager? I haven't really used windows in a couple of decades or
longer.

/Basil

My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows guys
on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from which
to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and current_beta.zip
when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you
have. Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil






Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Basil Gunn
 

Downloads are working fine this evening. Just downed the Beta7 in ~ 10
minutes. There must have been throughput issues on AT&T peering this
afternoon.
Mike, thanks for letting us know. /Basil

I have AT&T U-Verse. I have a fiber based Passive Optical
Network (PON) which runs at 2.3 Gbps with multiple VLANs. I have the
100 Mbps Internet service.

Mike - KB0FX


Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Basil Gunn
 

My Error message "Not Enough Disk Space. Need 734 PB"
So that is just a Moose load of disk space.
Can you describe in as much detail as possible exactly what you are doing.
ie.
Which browser are you using?
Which url did you use?
Which file did you click on?

Also if you have "File Downloader" available from the Microsoft store,
that might be good to try. Other than that I would ask the Windows guys
on this forum if they could please offer some suggestions.

/Basil

I can;t download to the Pi until I have the image on the SD from which
to boot.

I get same Space Error for both the draws_beta7.zip and current_beta.zip
when I try to unzip

them on my Windows PC.

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


On 1/7/2019 7:05 PM, Basil Gunn wrote:
Kenny Richards <kenny@...> writes:

The un-compressed image file is 5.8G.
Yep. From my image build directory:

ls -1sh draws_beta7*
5.3G draws_beta7.img
2.3G draws_beta7.zip

The image gets expanded to whatever size micro SD card you
have. Obviously a 4GB mSD card or smaller will not work.

To Ed KD9FRQ: Perhaps supply us with the failure message.
Also you could download or copy it to your RPi and unzip it there.

Check for available space:

df -h

then:

unzip current_beta.zip

/Basil





Re: #BETA7 Download #beta7

Mike - KB0FX
 

Downloads are working fine this evening. Just downed the Beta7 in ~ 10 minutes. There must have been throughput issues on AT&T peering this afternoon. I have AT&T U-Verse. I have a fiber based Passive Optical Network (PON) which runs at 2.3 Gbps with multiple VLANs. I have the 100 Mbps Internet service.

Mike - KB0FX