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Re: Winlink Gateway

Basil Gunn
 

I have also taken a look at using Paclink-Unix, starting with N7NIX
"app_config plu" script, so far being able to initiate a connection to a
VHF RMS node.However I am completely overwhelmed by Postfix configuration,
and have yet to get to setting up MUTT.
If you ran ./app_config.sh plu
then postfix & mutt are already configured.

I have some notes on test & verify for paclink-unix here:
http://bazaudi.com/plu/doku.php?id=plu:test_verify

First compose a msg to your yourself ie. using your callsign@...
and see if this directory has the file you just composed:
/usr/local/var/wl2k/outbox

Then send it with wl2ktelnet

These are the first steps to verify.

You do NOT need to change postfix config or mutt config. That was done
when you ran the app_config.sh script.

Also if you running with a desk top I'll add some notes in the next few
days for setting up claws-mail which is a full featured email client.

PAT did not make it on our list of installed programs
https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/n7nix/blob/master/docs/IMAGE_README.md

It should be pretty easy to install using Charles Schuman K4GBB's instructions.
http://k4gbb.serveftp.com/docs/patmenu.html

AX.25 is already installed you just have to enable it with
ax25-start

/Basil

Any suggestions, pointers, particularly for PAT would be much appreciated

73, John KM7LJ

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:13 PM Bill Vodall <@wa7nwp> wrote:

as been running on Linux for years. We have 5 Active Gateways running on
DRAWS in our County. You can access them from a PC using Airmail or Winlink
Express. You can access them from a Linux Box using a regular Mail Client
and Paclink-Unix.
Nobody is using PAT? It should run on DRAWS as a client.
Hey Bill why don't you write up some instructions on how to install PAT
on your DRAWS RPi.


Re: Winlink Gateway

George Privett
 

Thanks, Bryan, and the others who provided info that I can follow up on.

Our radio organization is just starting to looking at RMS gateway options.
http://yara.ca/index.html

George VY1GP


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Tim Ciesluk
 

I don’t know if you have a way to measure the voltage coming out of DRAWS to compare Direwolf and Fldigi. I would suppose they would be the same. Have you tried adjusting the Mic gain? As odd as it may seem, the mic could be tied to the data port. I was reading the manual for the WMR P&P section on adjusting audio levels into the radio and it mentions this happens in some cases. Default gain is 50 and I saw that mine was set down to 30. Do you see changes with ALC when setting this very low? I don’t remember if you said what output level worked good for Direwolf.
Could you share your settings like power and in what position you placed RF gain/SQL knob?I would like to try to put DRAWS voltage to the minimum recommended level for pocket and use Mic gain control if I can get the chance. I’d also completely disconnect the microphone if this gain setting made any changes. Wish me luck.

Tim - KU1G

On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg> wrote:

Thanks for sending that photo. I missed that in the packet section. So in my testing, that seems to be the case for packet on FM (APRS via direwolf) which has been working. Unfortunately when DRAWS TX signal has been at that level it was overdriving the rig in USB using fldigi or wsjt-x.
Jack
On Jan 9, 2019, at 20:34, Tim Ciesluk via Groups.Io <cetpctech=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Basil and Jack,

Let me preface by saying that I am very interested in the progress you are
making as I too have an IC-7000. I wish I had time to test but we just had a
newborn arrive in December keeping us very busy. You caught me by surprise
saying you’re using the ACC port with FLDigi. I remember some years ago
using Fldigi for HF with a West Mountain Plug&Play attached to the data port
on an IC-7000. The radio was basically default settings and in SSB mode. I
don’t recall anything special being necessary on the radio for settings.
Just to be sure the drive (pc sound card output) wasn’t too much for the
radio. This setup worked modes like JT65, PSK31, and Olivia. If I find any
time, I will try to find out more details about that setup. I want to attach
some details from the user manual regarding voltages for the data port and
describes a way to test the input from the TNC that may be useful.

I hope I’m adding to the conversation. Please let me know if I’m not. I’d
really like to see this succeed.

73,
Tim - KU1G







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--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ



Re: Winlink Gateway

jgindc1@...
 

Bill,

I would love to run PAT on my RPi/DRAWS system but I do not understand how to configure PAT. Currently I have PAT only running via Telnet.

I do have the AX25 working, eg XASTIR for APRS using my Kenwood TM-V71 with DRAWS.

The problem I have is that it is not obvious how to configure PAT to work with AX25, or any other protocol like ARDOP for that matter.

" pat configure" shows sections for AX25, ARDOP, Serial TNC, etc..but it is not clear to me how they relate to the AX25/DRAWS system.

I have also taken a look at using Paclink-Unix, starting with N7NIX "app_config plu" script,  so far being able to initiate a connection to a VHF RMS node.However I am completely overwhelmed by Postfix configuration, and have yet to get to setting up MUTT.

Any suggestions, pointers, particularly for PAT would be much appreciated

73, John KM7LJ

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:13 PM Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:
>as been running on Linux for years. We have 5 Active Gateways running on DRAWS in our County. You can access them from a PC using Airmail or Winlink Express. You can access them from a Linux Box using a regular Mail Client and Paclink-Unix.
>

Nobody is using PAT?   It should run on DRAWS as a client.




Re: Winlink Gateway

 

as been running on Linux for years. We have 5 Active Gateways running on DRAWS in our County. You can access them from a PC using Airmail or Winlink Express. You can access them from a Linux Box using a regular Mail Client and Paclink-Unix.
Nobody is using PAT? It should run on DRAWS as a client.


Re: Winlink Gateway

Jack Spitznagel
 

Julie,

If you edit your message online you should be able to add a picture. The icon is next to the paperclip above the edit box.
--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: Winlink Gateway

Julie McGrew
 
Edited

Hi Ed,

The UDRC-II card provides 1200 baud support to an Alinco 135 and 9600 baud support to a Yaesu FT-7900 courtesy of Direwolf.  A USB connection to a TNC-X feeds another Alinco 135 for the APRS iGATE.  A USB connection to the ICOM IC-7300 provides ARDOP running on the rpi and control for the Pactor modem.  The rpi / UDRC-II runs headless and is usually accessed via SSH or RealVNC.  Internet services are provided to the rpi ethernet port.

Hopefully this answers your request.  I'll look into how to share a photo.  Happy Hamming!

73,
julie
ac0wn


Re: Winlink Gateway

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Wow!!!  I would like to see a picture of that setup.
 
I count 6 radios connected to one Pi/UDRC-II setup as I understand each program.
 
More needs to be shared about this configuration. This sounds like a great Go Box.
 
Ed Bloom
ewbloom@...
Sent from Webmail access
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Julie McGrew via Groups.Io <juliemcgrew@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] Winlink Gateway

I'm confident you can make an excellent RMS Gateway using DRAWS.  I ran an RMS Gateway on a Raspberry Pi 3 and a UDRC-II card last year that supported 1200 baud packet / digipeating, 9600 baud packet / digipeating, ARDOP HF, and Pactor 2 and 3 on HF, Telnet, an APRS iGate,` and a BBS.  All this ran on one rpi and did a marvelous job.  Thank you NW Digital, and thank you John Wiseman, G8BPQ.  :)

73,
julie
ac0wn


Re: Winlink Gateway

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Bryan,
 
Understood (now).  I focused on the initial request of WINLINK and went down the PC pathway.
 
Ed Bloom
ewbloom@...
Sent from Webmail access
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:44 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] Winlink Gateway

Hi Ed,

RMS Gateway has been running on Linux for years. We have 5 Active Gateways running on DRAWS in our County. You can access them from a PC using Airmail or Winlink Express. You can access them from a Linux Box using a regular Mail Client and Paclink-Unix.

Basil is on the Dev team for Linux RMS Gateway and Paclink-UNIX

Here’s the Winlink Reference:



Re: Winlink Gateway

Julie McGrew
 

I'm confident you can make an excellent RMS Gateway using DRAWS.  I ran an RMS Gateway on a Raspberry Pi 3 and a UDRC-II card last year that supported 1200 baud packet / digipeating, 9600 baud packet / digipeating, ARDOP HF, and Pactor 2 and 3 on HF, Telnet, an APRS iGate,` and a BBS.  All this ran on one rpi and did a marvelous job.  Thank you NW Digital, and thank you John Wiseman, G8BPQ.  :)

73,
julie
ac0wn


Re: Winlink Gateway

 

Hi Ed,

RMS Gateway has been running on Linux for years. We have 5 Active Gateways running on DRAWS in our County. You can access them from a PC using Airmail or Winlink Express. You can access them from a Linux Box using a regular Mail Client and Paclink-Unix.

Basil is on the Dev team for Linux RMS Gateway and Paclink-UNIX

Here’s the Winlink Reference:



Re: Winlink Gateway

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Sure........
 
What I meant was the WinLink that most of us already use on our PCs as an RMS Gateway does not run on the Pi. It requires the Windows OS.
 
As Winlink was the specific software notes in the inquiry, that is why I responded as I did.
 
Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
ewbloom@...
Sent from Webmail access
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Basil Gunn <basil@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:13 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] Winlink Gateway


> WINLINK does not run on the Pi.

Can you qualify this statement for me please.
Linux RMS Gateway is installed on the DRAWS image as well as
paclink-unix.

/Basil




Re: Winlink Gateway

Basil Gunn
 

I was wondering if DRAWS technology/software can be used for setting up an RMS gateway for Winlink - VHF or HF.
Linux RMS Gateway is installed on the image for DRAWS.

This is a link to a Table of Installed Programs

https://github.com/nwdigitalradio/n7nix/blob/master/docs/IMAGE_README.md

/Basil


Re: Winlink Gateway

Basil Gunn
 

WINLINK does not run on the Pi.
Can you qualify this statement for me please.
Linux RMS Gateway is installed on the DRAWS image as well as
paclink-unix.

/Basil


Re: Winlink Gateway

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

WINLINK does not run on the Pi.  I wish it did.
 
I know that the Pi-TNC and PI-TNC9K6 will work with as an RMS Gateway when using the PiGate RMS software
package.  I currently have a Pi and Pi-TNC setup to do this.  It is currently offline due to antenna issues.
 
Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
ewbloom@...
Sent from Webmail access
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: George Privett via Groups.Io <glprivett@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 9:24 am
Subject: [udrc] Winlink Gateway

Hello,

I just discovered DRAWS and this group.
I was wondering if DRAWS technology/software can be used for setting up an RMS gateway for Winlink - VHF or HF.

Thanks

George VY1GP


Winlink Gateway

George Privett
 

Hello,

I just discovered DRAWS and this group.
I was wondering if DRAWS technology/software can be used for setting up an RMS gateway for Winlink - VHF or HF.

Thanks

George VY1GP


Re: DRAWS7 does not recognize udrc or draws

Joseph Vilardo
 

Rod Hart

I ran into a similar problem. When I would run aplay -l only card 0 would show, card 1  udrc [udrc] was not displayed. I raised the question on this forum and got reply from Annaleise and Basil. Annaleise's response is what follows. If you change the order of the directive "dtparam=audio=on" in the $ /boot/config.txt file to follow the directive "dtoverlay=" and "dtoverlay=draws" reboot and run aplay -l you should see card 1 udrc load.

Joe K3JV

On 1/1/2019 7:40 PM, Annaliese McDermond wrote:
It appears to me that you have incorrect settings in your config.txt file.  I will make this very explicit because I’m not sure I’ve made myself clear before:

*ORDER MATTERS IN LINES IN config.txt*

If you do not get the directives in the correct order, the OS kernel will not load the correct drivers for you.

If you intend to use the onboard audio on the Pi, the line

dtparam=audio=on

*MUST* come after the lines

dtoverlay=
dtoverlay=draws

Otherwise the device tree will not be loaded correctly and you won’t get a proper driver set.

--
Annaliese McDermond (NH6Z)
nh6z@...



On 1/8/2019 10:58 PM, Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. wrote:

Yes. It runs version 5 ok. I believe something is mangled in config.txt. It looks like the drivers are loaded there. The fact that it says Draws installed but looks for and can not find udrc is confusing.

Rod Hart



On January 8, 2019, at 10:04 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


Is your DRAWS board installed and property seated?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 18:20 Roderick Wayne Hart Sr. <rod.hart@... wrote:
I get the following msg 

Found udrcver.st here /home/pi/n7nix/bin
Draws installed
No udrc sound card found by aplay ... exiting

Can someone tell me what corrections I need to make. Everything seems to have loaded properly but the udrc/draws devices does not load.


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Jack Spitznagel
 

Thanks for sending that photo. I missed that in the packet section. So in my testing, that seems to be the case for packet on FM (APRS via direwolf) which has been working. Unfortunately when DRAWS TX signal has been at that level it was overdriving the rig in USB using fldigi or wsjt-x.
Jack

On Jan 9, 2019, at 20:34, Tim Ciesluk via Groups.Io <cetpctech=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Basil and Jack,

Let me preface by saying that I am very interested in the progress you are
making as I too have an IC-7000. I wish I had time to test but we just had a
newborn arrive in December keeping us very busy. You caught me by surprise
saying you’re using the ACC port with FLDigi. I remember some years ago
using Fldigi for HF with a West Mountain Plug&Play attached to the data port
on an IC-7000. The radio was basically default settings and in SSB mode. I
don’t recall anything special being necessary on the radio for settings.
Just to be sure the drive (pc sound card output) wasn’t too much for the
radio. This setup worked modes like JT65, PSK31, and Olivia. If I find any
time, I will try to find out more details about that setup. I want to attach
some details from the user manual regarding voltages for the data port and
describes a way to test the input from the TNC that may be useful.

I hope I’m adding to the conversation. Please let me know if I’m not. I’d
really like to see this succeed.

73,
Tim - KU1G







<image2.jpeg>
<image3.jpeg>
--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ


Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Tim Ciesluk
 

Hello Jack,

Thank you and I hope this baby learns quickly that it’s hard to function when he doesn’t want to lay down in bed very long.

I had hoped my photo showed the information about voltage you were looking for. It came from my user manual chapter 11 on Packet Operation.
Voltage 0.4 Vp-p (0.2 Vrms) recommended
0.2-0.5 Vp-p (0.1-0.25 Vrms) accepted

Measuring without an oscilloscope means looking for the red TX light to remain lit continuously while the TNC is sending test/calibration tones. Blinking red or remaining off; you should decrease TNC output level until the LED lights continuously. If the transmission is not successful and the LED lights red continuously, increase the TNC output.

73,
Tim - KU1G

On Jan 9, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Jack Spitznagel <@flyingfrawg> wrote:

Hi Tim,

To clarify one point from my rambling response to Basil, I just use the DATA port on the IC-7000 with DRAWS. What I was referring to was that the copy of the 7000 manual I have does not state the max P-P voltage that the DATA port will accept. Fot the TX Calc spreadsheet purposes, I was guessing that the info given for the AFSK pin on the ACC port (100mV) was going to be the same value for the DATA port.

I have the WMR BT Rigblaster which wasn't a problem at all to set up because it uses the microphone as its input so you can switch to headset mode. By contrast, the SignaLink which does use the DATA port is very touchy. The critical range on the TX level pot is in the first part of the range (7 to 9 o'clock) anything more than that is overdriven.

Have fun being Daddy! You only get one chance per kid. May this one figure out what "a whole night's sleep" means very quickly. I survived 1 of our 2 that did not. They are both great young adults now and you'd never know the one was a fussy baby.

KD4IZ
Jack Spitznagel
FM19oo




-----Original Message-----
From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ciesluk via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 20:35
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] #BETA7 performance report #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Hi Basil and Jack,

Let me preface by saying that I am very interested in the progress you are making as I too have an IC-7000. I wish I had time to test but we just had a newborn arrive in December keeping us very busy. You caught me by surprise saying you’re using the ACC port with FLDigi. I remember some years ago using Fldigi for HF with a West Mountain Plug&Play attached to the data port on an IC-7000. The radio was basically default settings and in SSB mode. I don’t recall anything special being necessary on the radio for settings. Just to be sure the drive (pc sound card output) wasn’t too much for the radio. This setup worked modes like JT65, PSK31, and Olivia. If I find any time, I will try to find out more details about that setup. I want to attach some details from the user manual regarding voltages for the data port and describes a way to test the input from the TNC that may be useful.

I hope I’m adding to the conversation. Please let me know if I’m not. I’d really like to see this succeed.

73,
Tim - KU1G










--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ



Re: #BETA7 performance report #beta7 #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Jack Spitznagel
 

Hi Tim,

To clarify one point from my rambling response to Basil, I just use the DATA port on the IC-7000 with DRAWS. What I was referring to was that the copy of the 7000 manual I have does not state the max P-P voltage that the DATA port will accept. Fot the TX Calc spreadsheet purposes, I was guessing that the info given for the AFSK pin on the ACC port (100mV) was going to be the same value for the DATA port.

I have the WMR BT Rigblaster which wasn't a problem at all to set up because it uses the microphone as its input so you can switch to headset mode. By contrast, the SignaLink which does use the DATA port is very touchy. The critical range on the TX level pot is in the first part of the range (7 to 9 o'clock) anything more than that is overdriven.

Have fun being Daddy! You only get one chance per kid. May this one figure out what "a whole night's sleep" means very quickly. I survived 1 of our 2 that did not. They are both great young adults now and you'd never know the one was a fussy baby.

KD4IZ
Jack Spitznagel
FM19oo

-----Original Message-----
From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ciesluk via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 20:35
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] #BETA7 performance report #config #ft-817 #ic-7000

Hi Basil and Jack,

Let me preface by saying that I am very interested in the progress you are making as I too have an IC-7000. I wish I had time to test but we just had a newborn arrive in December keeping us very busy. You caught me by surprise saying you’re using the ACC port with FLDigi. I remember some years ago using Fldigi for HF with a West Mountain Plug&Play attached to the data port on an IC-7000. The radio was basically default settings and in SSB mode. I don’t recall anything special being necessary on the radio for settings. Just to be sure the drive (pc sound card output) wasn’t too much for the radio. This setup worked modes like JT65, PSK31, and Olivia. If I find any time, I will try to find out more details about that setup. I want to attach some details from the user manual regarding voltages for the data port and describes a way to test the input from the TNC that may be useful.

I hope I’m adding to the conversation. Please let me know if I’m not. I’d really like to see this succeed.

73,
Tim - KU1G










--
J Spitznagel
Science River LLC
KD4IZ