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Turn key units

Kk4nwk@...
 

What is the deal with the turn key units?  I have had one on back order for 3 months and repeated attempts at getting a status update using the support form have gone unanswered.  


Re: APRS Messenger

Stuart Longland VK4MSL
 

On 27/7/19 3:14 am, Chuck Berry wrote:
Has anyone had success running in under WINE?  Chuck
WINE doesn't magically make a ARM CPU execute Intel 386 machine code.
--
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.


Re: APRS Messenger

Don--AE4DW <dwinflorida@...>
 

I own multiple Atomic Pi boards, having joined the kickstarter and then acquiring a couple more later on. I'm not an SBC guru (nor a linux development guru) by any means, but I have no complaints about the board thus far.

From a marketing perspective, putting the "Pi" name in there did them a disservice, as it is in no way a pin for pin replacement for the RPi.

While the hackaday article is a bit over the top, IMHO, its a solid board, but should be understood that its a "repurposed" board, not a ground-up design, so its not like they set out to rival the RPi with an Intel chip. It also explains the whole adapter board controversy and why the board is how it is. It seems like that was the Hackaday beef..that they didn't clearly put it out there that these were boards intended for another application, surplused, and then sold to the kickstarter entrants. To me, that speaks to good business sense, not some deep dark conspiracy and a planned scam. For what its worth, the group running the kickstarter ran one of the most efficient and responsive kickstarters I've ever been involved with.

I'm just becoming acquainted with the DRAW, but at first glance, getting it to work with the APi might be possible, but most definitely not, plug and play.


Re: APRS Messenger

Steve Stroh
 

Donald:

Wow - that was illuminating! The Atomic Pi did sound too good to be true, especially when you needed an adapter board to power it reliably. 

OK - take the Atomic Pi out of discussion. 

Scott Currie NS7C said it best. Paraphrasing, some basic Amateur Radio software runs only on Windows. Get over it. Buy a cheap Windows tablet, or laptop, or a basic cube (one was recommended in the referenced article) and just treat it like an appliance. Scott is a smart guy. 

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 19:36 Donald Jacob <wb5eku@...> wrote:
Read before buying an Atomic Pi.

For me, I'll stick with the Raspberry Pi

73
WB5EKU

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:15 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
People are welcome to try, at their own risk, any combination they like, but NW Digital Radio only tests and supports DRAWS™ HAT on Raspberry Pi.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:11 PM Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:
Does DRAWS work with the Atomic pi?  Awesome SBC, reasonable price and runs Windows since it's based on the Intel Atom SOC...

--


John D. Hays
Director

  


 

--
Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@...


Re: APRS Messenger

 

Read before buying an Atomic Pi.

For me, I'll stick with the Raspberry Pi

73
WB5EKU


On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:15 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
People are welcome to try, at their own risk, any combination they like, but NW Digital Radio only tests and supports DRAWS™ HAT on Raspberry Pi.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:11 PM Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:
Does DRAWS work with the Atomic pi?  Awesome SBC, reasonable price and runs Windows since it's based on the Intel Atom SOC...

--


John D. Hays
Director

  


 


Re: APRS Messenger

 

People are welcome to try, at their own risk, any combination they like, but NW Digital Radio only tests and supports DRAWS™ HAT on Raspberry Pi.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:11 PM Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:
Does DRAWS work with the Atomic pi?  Awesome SBC, reasonable price and runs Windows since it's based on the Intel Atom SOC...

--


John D. Hays
Director

  


 


Re: APRS Messenger

 

Does DRAWS work with the Atomic pi?  Awesome SBC, reasonable price and runs Windows since it's based on the Intel Atom SOC...



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 21:22 Chuck Berry <n7chs.qsx@...> wrote:
Has anyone had success running "APRS Messenger" on their DRAW? Thanks,
Chuck  N7CHS





Re: APRS Messenger

Basil Gunn
 

- closed source Windows app, so there's that
- DRAWS is a Raspberry Pi HAT so all the software uses CPU instruction
set based on the ARM processor not Intel
- If you want to run it under wine then you must use your Intel based
computer not a Raspberry Pi.

/Basil n7nix

Chuck Berry <n7chs.qsx@...> writes:

Has anyone had success running in under WINE? Chuck

On 7/26/2019 10:00 AM, Corky Searls wrote:
Looks like MS Windows only software at the moment, so may be
challenging depending on how it is implemented.

-Corky, AF4PM

On 7/25/19 5:49 PM, Chuck Berry wrote:
Has anyone had success running "APRS Messenger" on their DRAW?
Thanks, Chuck N7CHS


Re: APRS Messenger

Chuck Berry
 

Has anyone had success running in under WINE?  Chuck

On 7/26/2019 10:00 AM, Corky Searls wrote:
Looks like MS Windows only software at the moment, so may be challenging depending on how it is implemented.

-Corky, AF4PM

On 7/25/19 5:49 PM, Chuck Berry wrote:
Has anyone had success running "APRS Messenger" on their DRAW? Thanks, Chuck  N7CHS






Re: APRS Messenger

Corky Searls
 

Looks like MS Windows only software at the moment, so may be challenging depending on how it is implemented.

-Corky, AF4PM

On 7/25/19 5:49 PM, Chuck Berry wrote:
Has anyone had success running "APRS Messenger" on their DRAW? Thanks, Chuck  N7CHS




APRS Messenger

Chuck Berry
 

Has anyone had success running "APRS Messenger" on their DRAW? Thanks, Chuck  N7CHS


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Basil Gunn
 

Hi Kevin,

There are a couple of scripts that you might be interested in for
finding available RMS Gateways in directory n7nix/bin

rmslist.sh
Usage: ./rmslist.sh <integer_distance_in_miles> <maidenhead_grid_square>

gatewaylist.sh
Usage: gatewaylist.sh [-c][-l][-m <max_distance_in_miles>[-g <grid_square>][-s][-h]
-c | --count count number of RMS Stations
-l | --list build list of RMS Stations
-m | --max arg max distance in miles
-g | --gridsquare arg grid square location
-s | --show show all Stations
-d | --debug set debug flag
-h | --help display this message


wlgw-check.sh
get repository auto-rmsgw-find
https://github.com/n7nix/auto-rmsgw-find

This script uses rigctl for a Kenwood TM-v71a to iterate through an RMS
Gateway list made by rmslist.sh and tries to connect with each gateway
using paclink-unix. Rigctl supports the IC-7000.

wlgw-check.sh -g CN88nl

== Example output ==

$ ./rmslist.sh
Using distance of 30 miles & grid square CN88NL

Callsign Frequency Distance Baud
KF7FIT-10 223780000 0 1200
N7NIX-10 144910000 0 1200
K7KCA-10 440125000 3 1200
KE7KML-10 223780000 3 1200
AF4PM-10 145690000 4 1200
AF5TR-10 145690000 11 1200
AE7LW-10 145050000 16 1200
AE7LW-10 440950000 16 1200
KD7X-10 145630000 16 1200
KI7ULA-10 145050000 16 1200
W7UMX-10 145630000 16 1200
W0QJM-10 145630000 19 1200
WA7GJZ-10 145630000 19 1200
WA7GJZ-10 145630000 19 1200
NG2G-10 144990000 26 1200
W7ECG-10 144930000 28 1200

$ ./gatewaylist.sh
Directory: /home/pi/tmp/rmsgw does not exist, making ...
Building file: /home/pi/tmp/rmsgw/rmsgwprox.json ...
{
"Callsign": "KF7FIT-10",
"Frequency": 223780000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 0
}
{
"Callsign": "N7NIX-10",
"Frequency": 144910000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 0
}
{
"Callsign": "K7KCA-10",
"Frequency": 440125000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 3
}
{
"Callsign": "KE7KML-10",
"Frequency": 223780000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 3
}
{
"Callsign": "AF4PM-10",
"Frequency": 145690000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 4
}
{
"Callsign": "AF5TR-10",
"Frequency": 145690000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 11
}
{
"Callsign": "AE7LW-10",
"Frequency": 145050000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 16
}
{
"Callsign": "AE7LW-10",
"Frequency": 440950000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 16
}
{
"Callsign": "KD7X-10",
"Frequency": 145630000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 16
}
{
"Callsign": "KI7ULA-10",
"Frequency": 145050000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 16
}
{
"Callsign": "W7UMX-10",
"Frequency": 145630000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 16
}
{
"Callsign": "W0QJM-10",
"Frequency": 145630000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 19
}
{
"Callsign": "WA7GJZ-10",
"Frequency": 145630000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 19
}
{
"Callsign": "WA7GJZ-10",
"Frequency": 145630000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 19
}
{
"Callsign": "NG2G-10",
"Frequency": 144990000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 26
}
{
"Callsign": "W7ECG-10",
"Frequency": 144930000,
"Baud": "1200",
"Distance": 28
}
Found 16 stations

Kevin K. - N7KJK <kkutzera@...> writes:

So when eveyrthing else checks out maybe it's the gateway's problem. Looks like the system I was talking to yesterday is off line today.
I shopped around for another system and found one on Mercer Is. that answers me. I think I spent a bunch of time on device settings in Draws Manager when all I had to do is find another gateway system.
I used the 40 mV from the FT-7800 documentation to compute and set Transmit Analog to -6db, digital to -25db. -2db receive input pin 5 seems to work.

Thanks for all your help Basil.
I'll send you an email via Winlink.. Then I'm calling it a night.
Tomorrow I'll see if I can get my IC-7000 to cooperate.. :)


Re: Debian Buster

LA9KOA - Karl
 

Hello jpw
There is some information in the thread "Using the DRAWS hat with a Raspberry Pi 4" https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/topic/32311957
The RPi4 need Buster to boot, so that thread discuss how to get DRAWS configured on Buster.

Good luck!
Karl


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Kevin K. - N7KJK
 

So when eveyrthing else checks out maybe it's the gateway's problem.  Looks like the system I was talking to yesterday is off line today.
I shopped around for another system and found one on Mercer Is. that answers me.  I think I spent a bunch of time on device settings in Draws Manager when all I had to do is find another gateway system.
I used the 40 mV from the FT-7800 documentation to compute and set Transmit Analog to -6db, digital to -25db.    -2db receive  input pin 5 seems to work.

Thanks for all your help Basil.
I'll send you an email via Winlink.. Then I'm calling it a night.
Tomorrow I'll see if I can get my IC-7000 to cooperate..  :)

Kevin /  N7KJK


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Kevin K. - N7KJK
 

OK I'm guessing some terminology here. 
I've tried both Din6 ports by enter -a udr0  or -a udr1.  I move the cable to the appropriate connection and it does make the radio transmit.
I'm listening to the frequency on an HT, and I see the power meter on the radio along with the transmit indicator.

ax25port=udr0, which seems to be the left one on the PI as it transmits and receives (sometimes) when I don't override it at the command line.

Here's a output without any gateway response.
$ wl2kax25 -c W7AUX-10 -V
wl2kax25  0.8 Using gmime version 2.6.22
wl2kax25: Using this config:
  My callsign: N7KJK
  Target callsign: W7AUX-10
  Ax25 port: udr0
  WL2K secure login password: kjkstar!
  Timeout: 120
  Email address: kkutzera@...
  Flags: verbose = On, send-only = Off
connect(): Connection timed out

******************************
Here's one where the gateway seems to answer but the program doesn't get the data (I hear the transmission).
pi@N7KJKPI:~/n7nix/debug $ wl2kax25 -c W7AUX-10 -V
wl2kax25  0.8 Using gmime version 2.6.22
wl2kax25: Using this config:
  My callsign: N7KJK
  Target callsign: W7AUX-10
  Ax25 port: udr0
  WL2K secure login password: kjkstar!
  Timeout: 120
  Email address: kkutzera@...
  Flags: verbose = On, send-only = Off
Connected to AX.25 stack
Child process
Child process calling wl2kexchange()
wl2kax25: ---
 
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
▒vG▒▒▒v▒▒v▒X▒~▒X▒~▒▒v▒<▒v▒▒▒v▒5▒vf▒▒▒}▒▒▒v▒▒vL▒v▒<▒v▒X▒~▒H▒v▒▒v@▒vX▒▒vEOF on child fd, terminating communications loop.
Closing ax25 connection
Child exit status: 1
PuTTYWaiting for AX25 peer ... timeout
pi@N7KJKPI:~/n7nix/debug $
 


*********************
 
pi@N7KJKPI:~ $ wl2ktelnet
Connecting to cms.winlink.org 8772 ...
Connected.
 
Callsign : N7KJK
Password :
wl2ktelnet: ---
 outbound proposal list
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 7M4CPE_N7KJK usize 241 csize 187 next 0x145b8b0 path 7M4CPE_N7KJK ubuf 0x145b780 cbuf 0x145b738
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 1BE5LO_N7KJK usize 209 csize 186 next (nil) path 1BE5LO_N7KJK ubuf 0x145b6e8 cbuf 0x145b700
wl2ktelnet: <[WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$]
wl2ktelnet: sid [WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$] inboundsidcodes -B2FWIHJM$
wl2ktelnet: <;PQ: 36750398
wl2ktelnet: Challenge received: 36750398
wl2ktelnet: <CMS>
wl2ktelnet: >[UnixLINK-0.8-B2FIHM$]
wl2ktelnet: >;PR: 18531759
wl2ktelnet: >; WL2K DE N7KJK QTC 2
wl2ktelnet: >FC EM 7M4CPE_N7KJK 241 187 0
wl2ktelnet: >FC EM 1BE5LO_N7KJK 209 186 0
wl2ktelnet: >F> FF
wl2ktelnet: <FS YY
wl2ktelnet: transmitting [Second PI test] [offset 0]
wl2ktelnet: ... 187
wl2ktelnet: transmitting [test of ax25 .8 version] [offset 0]
wl2ktelnet: ... 186
wl2ktelnet: <FF [2]
wl2ktelnet: DELETING PROPOSAL:
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 7M4CPE_N7KJK usize 241 csize 187 next 0x145b8b0 path 7M4CPE_N7KJK ubuf 0x145b780 cbuf 0x145b738
wl2ktelnet: DELETING PROPOSAL:
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 1BE5LO_N7KJK usize 209 csize 186 next (nil) path 1BE5LO_N7KJK ubuf 0x145b6e8 cbuf 0x145b700
wl2ktelnet: >FQ

*********************************
pi@N7KJKPI:~/n7nix/debug $ ./chk_mail.sh
chk_mail.sh started: Mon Jul 22 22:07:50 PDT 2019
 
Pulling callsign from axports file
Call sign set to N7KJK
Using Real Name: "Kevin Kutzera"
 
chk_mail.sh finished: Mon Jul 22 22:07:56 PDT 2019
file count b4: 1  after: 2 in 1 seconds
Connecting to cms.winlink.org 8772 ...
Connected.
 
Callsign : N7KJK
Password :
wl2ktelnet: ---
 outbound proposal list
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 6JC85T_N7KJK usize 255 csize 196 next 0x1c066f8 path 6JC85T_N7KJK ubuf 0x1c06780 cbuf 0x1c06738
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid K3Q1LL_N7KJK usize 6077 csize 2678 next (nil) path K3Q1LL_N7KJK ubuf 0x1c06690 cbuf 0x1c06658
wl2ktelnet: <[WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$]
wl2ktelnet: sid [WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$] inboundsidcodes -B2FWIHJM$
wl2ktelnet: <;PQ: 84692058
wl2ktelnet: Challenge received: 84692058
wl2ktelnet: <CMS>
wl2ktelnet: >[UnixLINK-0.8-B2FIHM$]
wl2ktelnet: >;PR: 38421351
wl2ktelnet: >; WL2K DE N7KJK QTC 2
wl2ktelnet: >FC EM 6JC85T_N7KJK 255 196 0
wl2ktelnet: >FC EM K3Q1LL_N7KJK 6077 2678 0
wl2ktelnet: >F> 85
wl2ktelnet: <;PM: N7KJK 7M4CPE_N7KJK 161 N7KJK@... Second PI test
wl2ktelnet: Found WL2K extension, pending msg
wl2ktelnet: <FS YY
wl2ktelnet: transmitting [//WL2K N7KJKPI plu 07/22/19, size: 32, #0] [offset 0]
wl2ktelnet: ... 196
wl2ktelnet: transmitting [//WL2K N7KJKPI plu 07/22/19, size: 5675, #2] [offset 0]
wl2ktelnet: ... 2678
wl2ktelnet: ... 2423
wl2ktelnet: ... 2168
wl2ktelnet: ... 1913
wl2ktelnet: ... 1658
wl2ktelnet: ... 1403
wl2ktelnet: ... 1148
wl2ktelnet: ... 893
wl2ktelnet: ... 638
wl2ktelnet: ... 383
wl2ktelnet: ... 128
wl2ktelnet: <FC EM 7M4CPE_N7KJK 192 161 0 [28]
wl2ktelnet: DELETING PROPOSAL:
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 6JC85T_N7KJK usize 255 csize 196 next 0x1c066f8 path 6JC85T_N7KJK ubuf 0x1c06780 cbuf 0x1c06738
wl2ktelnet: DELETING PROPOSAL:
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid K3Q1LL_N7KJK usize 6077 csize 2678 next (nil) path K3Q1LL_N7KJK ubuf 0x1c06690 cbuf 0x1c06658
wl2ktelnet: proposal code C type E mid 7M4CPE_N7KJK usize 192 csize 161 next (nil) path (null) ubuf (nil) cbuf (nil)
wl2ktelnet: <F> 80 [5]
wl2ktelnet: >FF
wl2ktelnet: <*** [1] Unexpected response to proposal - Disconnecting (67.171.8.61) [69]
wl2ktelnet: unrecognized command (len 69): /*** [1] Unexpected response to proposal - Disconnecting (67.171.8.61)/
2a 2a 2a 20 5b 31 5d 20 55 6e 65 78 70 65 63 74 65 64 20 72 65 73 70 6f 6e 73 65 20 74 6f 20 70 72 6f 70 6f 73 61 6c 20 2d 20 44 69 73 63 6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 69 6e 67 20 28 36 37 2e 31 37 31 2e 38 2e 36 31 29
chk_mail.sh: Mon Jul 22 22:08:01 PDT 2019: wl2ktelnet returned 1
pi@N7KJKPI:~/n7nix/debug $


Kevin


Re: Debian Buster

J P Watters <kc9kko@...>
 

Basil,

Where is the best source if information that is similar to the Draws “Getting Started” for HOW TO on the Debian Buster Distribution?

..jpw J P Watters



On Jul 6, 2019, at 2:57 PM, la4rha@... wrote:

I have amended the document with the comments from John regarding the file. Have also added some comments about installing DRAWS Manager ("Follow the instructions at...")

/Lars - LA4RHA



Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Basil Gunn
 

Try measuring your deviation.
https://www.febo.com/packet/layer-one/transmit.html

You can send a tone using the measure_deviate.sh script found here:
n7nix/deviation

Use John's draws-manager web app to vary LO Driver Gain & PCM

Still waiting to see ALL of your wl2kax25 console output.
/Basil n7nix


Kevin K. - N7KJK <kkutzera@...> writes:

And now about 25% of the time I'm seeing
Connected
Child process calling wl2kexchange()
Porposalcode C type E. mid.... Yada yada.. The after about a minute a time out.
So This now might just be basic radio reception.
I think I need to change my antenna setup at this point. Very inconsistent response from a gateway that yesterday was 100%.
I'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks
Kevin


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Basil Gunn
 

Need to see the console output from the wl2kax25 command.
Not sure what you mean by "I've tested both serial ports".
Which mDin6 connector are you using left or right?
Updating paclink-unix will not affect the DRAWS config or radio config
at all.
Verify that the connector used, the port in ax25port= in
/usr/local/etc/wl2k.conf and portname in /etc/ax25/axports match. ie. left port is
udr0, right is udr1

run the chk_mail.sh script like this:

cd
cd n7nix/debug
./chk_mail.sh

/Basil n7nix


Kevin K. - N7KJK <kkutzera@...> writes:

succeeded in updating from 0.7 to 0.8.
the w2ktelnet command completed without errors and sent my gmail account three emails successfully via the PI's Internet connection.

Attempts to use the radio results in my transmission, and what I believe is the gateway's response (hearing it on the radio). Unfortunately now the PI isn't receiving the responses as it did with the .7 version.
I've tested both serial ports and tried both the setalsa-default, and the setalsa-ft817 setup files.
Not sure what changed on the receiving end of this.
Kevin


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Kevin K. - N7KJK
 

And now about 25% of the time I'm seeing
Connected
Child process  calling wl2kexchange()
Porposal code C type E. mid....  Yada yada..   The after about a minute a time out.
So This now might just be basic radio reception.  
I think I need to change my antenna setup at this point. Very inconsistent response from a gateway that yesterday was 100%.
I'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks
Kevin


Re: Pac-Link account password does not match #paclink-unix #pac-link

Kevin K. - N7KJK
 

succeeded in updating from 0.7 to 0.8.
the w2ktelnet command completed without errors and sent my gmail account three emails successfully via the PI's Internet connection.

Attempts to use the radio results in my transmission, and what I believe is the gateway's response (hearing it on the radio).  Unfortunately now the PI isn't receiving the responses as it did with the .7 version.
I've tested both serial ports and tried both the setalsa-default, and the setalsa-ft817 setup files.
Not sure what changed on the receiving end of this. 
Kevin