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Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

 

The March delivery boards are the early adopter form factor, just get in on the deal before the end of the month.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 17:07 Fred Hirsch via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
John,

I received my unit is March, the GPS connector is next to the radio connectors.  When will a case
be available for my hat?

Fred Hirsch, WB7BKM


-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2019 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [udrc] #draws Aluminum Case #wifi


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jerry Kornbau <aa4jlk@...> wrote:
I have not receive any email link for where to order the case. Can someone please supply?

Thanks
Jerry aa4jk



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Fred Hirsch <Hirschfh@...>
 

John,

I received my unit is March, the GPS connector is next to the radio connectors.  When will a case
be available for my hat?

Fred Hirsch, WB7BKM


-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2019 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [udrc] #draws Aluminum Case #wifi


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jerry Kornbau <aa4jlk@...> wrote:
I have not receive any email link for where to order the case. Can someone please supply?

Thanks
Jerry aa4jk



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

 


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jerry Kornbau <aa4jlk@...> wrote:
I have not receive any email link for where to order the case. Can someone please supply?

Thanks
Jerry aa4jk



John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Jerry Kornbau
 

I have not receive any email link for where to order the case. Can someone please supply?

Thanks
Jerry aa4jk

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:16 AM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
I thought I documented this elsewhere on the group but here goes:

With respect to WiFi/Bluetooth. There is an aperture in the case near the Module similar to other metal cases for the Pi.

In a casual test with 2 units, 1 in case and the other bare, 1m apart. The cased unit reported signal strength 2dB better. I then swapped the units position and recorded the same result.

This doesn’t mean that the case improves wifi as all casual rf measurements within a few dB are subject to many other factors.

OTOH it does indicate that wifi is usable with the case.

Bryan K7UDR



Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Steve, N9VW
 

Thank you Brian!

Steve, N9VW

On 4/16/2019 3:26 PM, Bryan Hoyer wrote:
It’s on the shop page now.

The price reduction is just our way of acknowledging that we handled this poorly.

Bryan K7UDR

On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:23 PM, John Amdor III <johnmxl@cox.net> wrote:

I won't speak for others, but I'd be happy with the $20 price point.

Where do I place my order?

John K0MXL



Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Chris Sorensen
 

Thanks for the change of heart. I have ordered two cases as one of our club members is out of the country.

Chris Sorensen
N7GYL


Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

John Amdor III
 

Order placed!

Thanks!

John K0MXL

On 4/16/19 5:26 PM, Bryan Hoyer wrote:
It’s on the shop page now.
The price reduction is just our way of acknowledging that we handled this poorly.
Bryan K7UDR

On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:23 PM, John Amdor III <johnmxl@cox.net> wrote:

I won't speak for others, but I'd be happy with the $20 price point.

Where do I place my order?

John K0MXL


Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

August Johnson KG7BZ
 

Thank you, order placed.

August KG7BZ

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 3:26 PM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
It’s on the shop page now.

The price reduction is just our way of acknowledging that we handled this poorly.

Bryan K7UDR

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:23 PM, John Amdor III <johnmxl@...> wrote:
>
> I won't speak for others, but I'd be happy with the $20 price point.
>
> Where do I place my order?
>
> John K0MXL
>
>
>





Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

 

It’s on the shop page now.

The price reduction is just our way of acknowledging that we handled this poorly.

Bryan K7UDR

On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:23 PM, John Amdor III <johnmxl@cox.net> wrote:

I won't speak for others, but I'd be happy with the $20 price point.

Where do I place my order?

John K0MXL



Re: Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

John Amdor III
 

I won't speak for others, but I'd be happy with the $20 price point.

Where do I place my order?

John K0MXL


Early Adopter #draws Aluminum Case #draws

 

To all of our DRAWS Early adopters:

I’m recovering well from the beating I’ve taken over the last day, thanks for asking.

The Problems:


First the easy one, Power Pigtail:


The board was designed with a power pigtail and Right Angle connector. The case allows for a better solution by using a 5.5 X 2.1 Socket which the pigtail solders to. You can then use standard cables used in other radios and POE IP Cameras to connect to 12V.

In order to keep the pigtail inside the case, new boards will have vertical connectors. For early boards you can either keep your existing power setup or bend the right angle (RA) connector vertical, which is what I’ve done in the photos. Note: some RA connectors have extended wings which you can snip off.

Now for the hard one:

In order to put the red top over the black base, you need to spread open the top and spring it over the GPS connector. This wasn’t too bad on the first prototypes, but after we went to a thicker aluminum (which is definitely better), it became even more difficult to do without permanently bending the top. This is a non-starter.

The right solution is to move the connector to the end, so it slides into the base. We have scrapped the remaining FABs and implemented this for the upcoming run …

… but that left all of you out in the cold (or acrylic if you prefer). Which as you have indicated, isn't how it was promoted.

What we are going to do:

By changing the opening for the connector from a hole to a horizontal slot, you can slide the top on from the end.

As for the discount, we were originally going to offer the $25 Case for $20 but even though this short run will cost more to produce, we’re discounting the cases further to $15.

Assuming this is acceptable to the majority of users, we’ll implement it this week and take orders thru the end of April. This is a one time manufacturing run as a thank you to our early adopters.  We will manufacture only as many units as we have orders for, so be sure to place your order promptly.

Thanks for your understanding,
Bryan K7UDR


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Gwen Patton
 

I've got TWO DRAWS here with the original SMA connector. Been waiting for cases. I, too, would appreciate aluminum cases to cut down on RFI. If I MUST make do with acrylic, fine, but I certainly would prefer metal.

Gwen, NG3P

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM KeithG [KG1MD] <keithgold@...> wrote:
What can I say? I also ordered one at Orlando hoping to order a metal case when available. :)

On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:53 AM, August Johnson <augjohnson@...> wrote:

Yes, remember that us early adopters were told that we'd get a discount on an early purchase of the aluminum case. Not so I see...

August KG7BZ

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:47 AM Loring Kutchins <lor.kutchins@...> wrote:
Me too. Perhaps you’d allow us to exchange the old board for a new one when we purchase a case?

—Lor W3QA

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:45 AM, August Johnson <augjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to know this too. I bought a DRAWS within minutes of the early announcement and have been waiting to buy an Aluminum case for months and now I find that this wait was worthless.
>
> August Johnson KG7BZ
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:37 AM Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
> Are any of the first run aluminum DRAWS available for purchase?  I would like to get two rather than the acrylic version.
>
>
>






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Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

 

I thought I documented this elsewhere on the group but here goes:

With respect to WiFi/Bluetooth. There is an aperture in the case near the Module similar to other metal cases for the Pi.

In a casual test with 2 units, 1 in case and the other bare, 1m apart. The cased unit reported signal strength 2dB better. I then swapped the units position and recorded the same result.

This doesn’t mean that the case improves wifi as all casual rf measurements within a few dB are subject to many other factors.

OTOH it does indicate that wifi is usable with the case.

Bryan K7UDR


Re: Switch Audio

 



On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:32 AM Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:
> The DRAWS™ HAT and built-in Raspberry Pi audio CODECS are separate.
>
> Edit /boot/config.txt and uncomment (near the end)

Isn't it possible to use both audio devices at the same time?

Yes. 

> Save and reboot.

Reboot?? - Is this running windows?

There is a kernel loaded driver and configuration.  You might be able to get there from the command line, but this is a onetime setup issue and a reboot is clean.


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

KeithG [KG1MD]
 

Way to go!!!!

On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:42 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

We hear you.

Standby while we work out doing a special, one time, run for existing boards.

Once engineering works out the design issue, we will need to take orders to get a count of how many to manufacture, so be ready to place orders once we provide the details.

A later email will explain the engineering issue.


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

KeithG [KG1MD]
 

What can I say? I also ordered one at Orlando hoping to order a metal case when available. :)

On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:53 AM, August Johnson <augjohnson@...> wrote:

Yes, remember that us early adopters were told that we'd get a discount on an early purchase of the aluminum case. Not so I see...

August KG7BZ

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:47 AM Loring Kutchins <lor.kutchins@...> wrote:
Me too. Perhaps you’d allow us to exchange the old board for a new one when we purchase a case?

—Lor W3QA

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:45 AM, August Johnson <augjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to know this too. I bought a DRAWS within minutes of the early announcement and have been waiting to buy an Aluminum case for months and now I find that this wait was worthless.
>
> August Johnson KG7BZ
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:37 AM Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
> Are any of the first run aluminum DRAWS available for purchase?  I would like to get two rather than the acrylic version.
>
>
>





Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

michael leonard tilse
 

I bought the original version. I too was waiting for the aluminium case. Please let me know when I can order it. My version has the sma gps connector on the long side above the micro USB port.

Michael

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Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Marc Lacy
 

I also have a draws hat and no case. I am disappointed.

 

Although I should not be, as the UDRX became vaporware.

73 de KD7RYY

 

Marc

 

 


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Joe Wisecaver
 

I totally agree with others in this thread. We've waited months for a case being promised a discount when they were available. Now pushed aside to another company without the product we have been patiently waiting for. Wrong way to keep your customers satisfied.

Joe Wisecaver KG7YPB


Re: #draws Aluminum Case #draws

Gary KC3PO
 

One thing about the aluminum case that I'm curious about - what is the affect on the pi's built-in wifi? I assume that's been tested?

- Gary  KC3PO

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