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Re: People receiving boards #draws-manager #setup #draws

Richard Waller <rewaller@...>
 

Greetings John. I have installed the Draws image to my Rpi. I don’t see fldigi listed under Hf programs. Is that correct? Rick Waller Ka4ohm 


On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:34 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

If you are unpacking your new DRAWS™ HAT, here are a couple of resources to get started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5C3cWVVz_A
(Be sure to do the git pull, to update as new features are being added .- including a new button to update DRAWS™ Manager)

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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


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Andy M0NWE <House@...>
 

 
Really, you waste bandwidth because your government charges import taxes.  Try living in Europe. Suck it up.

On 3 Apr 2019, at 22:02, Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:

This sort of Sucks. I have to pay 30.00 CDN duty to receive the Draws. The custom declaration should have said Amateur Radio use. Unless President Trump and Mexico changed the rules and didn’t let as Canadian know.
 
Don va7dgp 

 


[Moderator: This thread has gone off topic and is now locked, no additional replies will be added.]


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Let's stay on the subject of this topic.

Taxes and Politics don't belong here.  Two thoughts to keep in mind:
1. NW Digital Radio has received requests from time to time to falsify customs declarations to affect taxes and tariffs. It is company policy that we will not honor such requests.
2. If you feel there is additional information that would be helpful to our shipping department, include it in the comments section when placing an order.

We appreciate your business.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Fred Meier <fsmeier@...> wrote:

Hi Don.

Amateur radio use is not exempt from taxes and duties. The Post Office has to collect both when they are the broker of your USA goods.

Mr Trump and the Mexicans have nothing to do with this. Your Prime Minister is the cause of the confusion. He has not brought the agreement in principle forward to be ratified by parliament.

I just went through this with the Draws myself, believing what I heard in the news that we could now shop online up to a certain new limit, bla bla bla. It is all just bla bla bla intended to distract western Canadians from the train wreck in Ottawa.

Just thought you might like to know.

Fred VE7FMN

 

From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Poaps
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:02 PM
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

 

This sort of Sucks. I have to pay 30.00 CDN duty to receive the Draws. The custom declaration should have said Amateur Radio use. Unless President Trump and Mexico changed the rules and didn’t let as Canadian know.

 

Don va7dgp


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Fred Meier <fsmeier@...>
 

Hi Don.

Amateur radio use is not exempt from taxes and duties. The Post Office has to collect both when they are the broker of your USA goods.

Mr Trump and the Mexicans have nothing to do with this. Your Prime Minister is the cause of the confusion. He has not brought the agreement in principle forward to be ratified by parliament.

I just went through this with the Draws myself, believing what I heard in the news that we could now shop online up to a certain new limit, bla bla bla. It is all just bla bla bla intended to distract western Canadians from the train wreck in Ottawa.

Just thought you might like to know.

Fred VE7FMN

 

From: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Poaps
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:02 PM
To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

 

This sort of Sucks. I have to pay 30.00 CDN duty to receive the Draws. The custom declaration should have said Amateur Radio use. Unless President Trump and Mexico changed the rules and didn’t let as Canadian know.

 

Don va7dgp 

 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:10 John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:

By default gpsd is installed as well as chrony (ntpd) which will update the clock.  There are several threads in topics, as well as some wiki documentation to help you out.

 

If you want to access the GPS directly you would need to turn off gpsd and open /dev/ttySC0  

 

Use gpsmon, cgps, and/or gpspipe to access GPS information from gpsd.

 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:05 PM Fred Hirsch via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

John look forward to next video.  Have DRAWS software up and running.  Now to figure out the apps.  Can I directly access the GPS?

Does DRAWS update the Raspberry time from GPS?

Fred Hirsch

-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

Thanks Steve, I am sure you will do a great job, like the 1st one.

 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:

Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!

 

 

 


John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA

K7VE

 

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New Westminster, BC

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Don Poaps
 

This sort of Sucks. I have to pay 30.00 CDN duty to receive the Draws. The custom declaration should have said Amateur Radio use. Unless President Trump and Mexico changed the rules and didn’t let as Canadian know.

Don va7dgp 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:10 John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
By default gpsd is installed as well as chrony (ntpd) which will update the clock.  There are several threads in topics, as well as some wiki documentation to help you out.

If you want to access the GPS directly you would need to turn off gpsd and open /dev/ttySC0  

Use gpsmon, cgps, and/or gpspipe to access GPS information from gpsd.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:05 PM Fred Hirsch via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
John look forward to next video.  Have DRAWS software up and running.  Now to figure out the apps.  Can I directly access the GPS?
Does DRAWS update the Raspberry time from GPS?
Fred Hirsch


-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

Thanks Steve, I am sure you will do a great job, like the 1st one.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!




John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   

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Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
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Winlink: va7qu@...
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locked Re: My DRAWS arrived, video inside

 

By default gpsd is installed as well as chrony (ntpd) which will update the clock.  There are several threads in topics, as well as some wiki documentation to help you out.

If you want to access the GPS directly you would need to turn off gpsd and open /dev/ttySC0  

Use gpsmon, cgps, and/or gpspipe to access GPS information from gpsd.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:05 PM Fred Hirsch via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
John look forward to next video.  Have DRAWS software up and running.  Now to figure out the apps.  Can I directly access the GPS?
Does DRAWS update the Raspberry time from GPS?
Fred Hirsch


-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

Thanks Steve, I am sure you will do a great job, like the 1st one.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!




John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   



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Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


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Hirschfh@...
 

John look forward to next video.  Have DRAWS software up and running.  Now to figure out the apps.  Can I directly access the GPS?
Does DRAWS update the Raspberry time from GPS?
Fred Hirsch


-----Original Message-----
From: John D Hays - K7VE <john@...>
To: udrc <udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [udrc] My DRAWS arrived, video inside

Thanks Steve, I am sure you will do a great job, like the 1st one.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!




John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Latest JS8CALL (1.0.0) #draws #js8call

Basil Gunn
 

The following instructions updates most programs including js8call
for users running a NW Digital Radio RPi image.

# Get the program refresher script:
cd
cd n7nix
git pull

# Run the program refresher script:
# The refresher script is in this directory ~/n7nix/bin/
cd bin
./prog_refresh.sh

/Basil

John D Hays - K7VE <john@hays.org> writes:

Visit http://files.js8call.com/latest.html and pull down --
js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb

You can use a browser or the wget command

*wget http://files.js8call.com/1.0.0/js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb
<http://files.js8call.com/1.0.0/js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb>;*

Go to the directory where you saved the file and run

*sudo apt-get install ./js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb*


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Thanks Steve, I am sure you will do a great job, like the 1st one.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:
Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!




John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


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Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 

Next video should be out Friday or Sunday... trying to figure out the best script for it!



On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:04 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Hi Fred,

We are all anxiously awaiting Steve's next installment.

In the meantime, what his video shows is burning the image to a new/blank/reused SD Card.  Once you have the SD card burned and ready to go, the DRAWS™ HAT is mounted to a Raspberry Pi (Any of models 2 through 3+) and the SD card is inserted to the Raspberry Pi for bootup. 

 If you have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse plugged in, you should see the system come up when you power it on.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:06 AM Hirschfh via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
UNDERSTAND VIDEO 1,  WHERE IS THE NEXT PROMISED BOOT UP VIDEO.  IS THE RASPBERRY PI INSTALLED ON THE SD CHIP WHERE I AM ETCHING TO?  OR IS THE SD CHIP BLANK?

THANKS, FRED



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Success

Basil Gunn
 

Jeff Francis™ <jeff@gritch.org> writes:

The update might be worth scripting for the less
technical users, ...
Why is there a BETA11 image?
Because js8call was updated from 1.0.0-rc3 to final 1.0.0 after BETA10
was uploaded and the package url location changed.

If you are already using BETA9 or BETA10 images should you download a new image?
NO.
To update to the latest files on BETA11 do the following:

# Get the program refresher script:
cd
cd n7nix
git pull

# Run the program refresher script:
# The refresher script is in this directory ~/n7nix/bin/
cd bin
./prog_refresh.sh

If a new version of FLdigi is to be installed the script will change the
swap file size and you will be asked to reboot. Upon reboot just run the
prog_refresh.sh script again.

This is what the output of the prog_refresh.sh script looks like on an
up-to-date system:

cd ~/n7nix/bin
$ ./prog_refresh.sh
Update scripts in n7nix directory
Already up-to-date.
Refresh local bin directory

FINISHED copying bin files

FINISHED copying AX.25 files
Update draws manager
Already up-to-date.
Update HF programs
Swap file size check: 100M
Update HF apps after checking version numbers.

js8call: current version: 1.0.0, installed: 1.0.0
version is current
wsjtx: current version: 2.0.1, installed: 2.0.1
version is current
Library: libflxmlrpc IS loaded.
flxmlrpc: current version: 0.1.4, installed: 0.1.4
version is current
fldigi: current version: 4.1.01, installed: 4.1.01
version is current
flrig: current version: 1.3.42, installed: 1.3.42
version is current
flmsg: current version: 4.0.8, installed: 4.0.8
version is current
flamp: current version: 2.2.04, installed: 2.2.04
version is current

2019 04 03 09:06:13 PDT: hf_verchk.sh: hf program update script FINISHED

2019 04 03 09:06:13 PDT: prog_refresh.sh: Program Refresh script FINISHED

/Basil n7nix

Jeff Francis™ <jeff@gritch.org> writes:

That worked, thank you. The update might be worth scripting for the less
technical users, but had no errors. Do not yet have a radio wired up, just
received my Hat in the mail late Friday afternoon.

Jeff/N0GQ


On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:55 AM Basil Gunn <basil@pacabunga.com> wrote:


Jeff,

Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same
place
as downloading and installing beta10?
In a perfect world yes, so NO.


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Hi Fred,

We are all anxiously awaiting Steve's next installment.

In the meantime, what his video shows is burning the image to a new/blank/reused SD Card.  Once you have the SD card burned and ready to go, the DRAWS™ HAT is mounted to a Raspberry Pi (Any of models 2 through 3+) and the SD card is inserted to the Raspberry Pi for bootup. 

 If you have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse plugged in, you should see the system come up when you power it on.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:06 AM Hirschfh via Groups.Io <Hirschfh=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
UNDERSTAND VIDEO 1,  WHERE IS THE NEXT PROMISED BOOT UP VIDEO.  IS THE RASPBERRY PI INSTALLED ON THE SD CHIP WHERE I AM ETCHING TO?  OR IS THE SD CHIP BLANK?

THANKS, FRED



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John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


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Hirschfh@...
 

UNDERSTAND VIDEO 1,  WHERE IS THE NEXT PROMISED BOOT UP VIDEO.  IS THE RASPBERRY PI INSTALLED ON THE SD CHIP WHERE I AM ETCHING TO?  OR IS THE SD CHIP BLANK?

THANKS, FRED


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Excellent 


On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 12:44 Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...> wrote:

The wiki page is worth 30 words (I counted)... and a picture is worth 1000 words so they say, then this video must be worth at least 1030 words.  So here are my 1030 words on the subject.

I go over receiving the board and burning the image from the command line and also from the GUI using etcher.

Stay Tuned for more!
- Steve, KM9G


locked My DRAWS arrived, video inside

Steve McGrane <temporarilyoffline@...>
 


The wiki page is worth 30 words (I counted)... and a picture is worth 1000 words so they say, then this video must be worth at least 1030 words.  So here are my 1030 words on the subject.

I go over receiving the board and burning the image from the command line and also from the GUI using etcher.

Stay Tuned for more!
- Steve, KM9G


Latest JS8CALL (1.0.0) #draws #js8call

 

Visit http://files.js8call.com/latest.html and pull down -- js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb

You can use a browser or the wget command

wget http://files.js8call.com/1.0.0/js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb

Go to the directory where you saved the file and run

sudo apt-get install ./js8call_1.0.0_armhf.deb  




John D. Hays
Edmonds, WA
K7VE

   


Re: Success

Basil Gunn
 

Jeff Francis™ <jeff@gritch.org> writes:

That worked, thank you. The update might be worth scripting for the less
technical users, but had no errors.
I just looked at the hf_verchk.sh script & I do not let any builds occur
unless the swap size has been increased to a value that works. I change the
system swap size in the script so you don't have to do that manually.

That script was only intended to be used by me to refresh an image but the
HF progs change at such a rate that the script may be useful to
others. Thanks for letting me know that it worked for you.

Do not yet have a radio wired up, just
received my Hat in the mail late Friday afternoon.
Have fun!

Jeff/N0GQ


On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:55 AM Basil Gunn <basil@pacabunga.com> wrote:


Jeff,

Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same
place
as downloading and installing beta10?
In a perfect world yes, so NO.


Re: Success

Jeff Francis™
 

That worked, thank you. The update might be worth scripting for the less technical users, but had no errors. Do not yet have a radio wired up, just received my Hat in the mail late Friday afternoon.

Jeff/N0GQ


On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:55 AM Basil Gunn <basil@...> wrote:

Jeff,

> Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same place
> as downloading and installing beta10?

In a perfect world yes, so NO.

If the following instructions cause your head to hurt then just download
the current beta here:
http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads/

and follow the 'Getting Started' instructions here:
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/wiki/DRAWS%3A-Getting-Started

To update without blowing away your config files, to current BETA10
software from a previous image:

# As user (pi)
cd
cd n7nix
git pull

cd /usr/local/var/draws-manager

# Become root
sudo su
git pull

# Check for current versions of some HF ham programs.
# As user (pi) not root
cd
cd n7nix/hfprogs
# The following just displays version numbers
./hf_verchk.sh

# Update hf programs (this can take a long time)
# First increase the swap file size on your RPi
cat /proc/swaps

# if the size is 102396 you need to as ROOT edit /etc/dphys-swapfile
# Change CONF_SWAPSIZE=100 to CONF_SWAPSIZE=1000
# Reboot
sudo shutdown -r now

# Verify the swap size has changed
cat /proc/swaps
# Size should now be 1023996

# Go back to the directory containing script hf_verchk.sh
# As user (pi)
cd
cd n7nix/hfprogs

# Update source files & build
./hf_verchk.sh -u

# Go for a walk or do something healthy.

# Reset CONF_SWAPSIZE= back to its original value & reboot your RPi

/Basil

Jeff Francis™ <jeff@...> writes:

> Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same place
> as downloading and installing beta10? I hate to have to re-install and
> re-configure everything I've set up.
>
> Jeff/N0GQ





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Re: Success

Basil Gunn
 

Jeff,

Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same place
as downloading and installing beta10?
In a perfect world yes, so NO.

If the following instructions cause your head to hurt then just download
the current beta here:
http://images.nwdigitalradio.com/downloads/

and follow the 'Getting Started' instructions here:
https://nw-digital-radio.groups.io/g/udrc/wiki/DRAWS%3A-Getting-Started

To update without blowing away your config files, to current BETA10
software from a previous image:

# As user (pi)
cd
cd n7nix
git pull

cd /usr/local/var/draws-manager

# Become root
sudo su
git pull

# Check for current versions of some HF ham programs.
# As user (pi) not root
cd
cd n7nix/hfprogs
# The following just displays version numbers
./hf_verchk.sh

# Update hf programs (this can take a long time)
# First increase the swap file size on your RPi
cat /proc/swaps

# if the size is 102396 you need to as ROOT edit /etc/dphys-swapfile
# Change CONF_SWAPSIZE=100 to CONF_SWAPSIZE=1000
# Reboot
sudo shutdown -r now

# Verify the swap size has changed
cat /proc/swaps
# Size should now be 1023996

# Go back to the directory containing script hf_verchk.sh
# As user (pi)
cd
cd n7nix/hfprogs

# Update source files & build
./hf_verchk.sh -u

# Go for a walk or do something healthy.

# Reset CONF_SWAPSIZE= back to its original value & reboot your RPi

/Basil

Jeff Francis™ <jeff@gritch.org> writes:

Speaking of beta10, does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" get me to the same place
as downloading and installing beta10? I hate to have to re-install and
re-configure everything I've set up.

Jeff/N0GQ


Re: Draws image

Basil Gunn
 

These are my options only, please DO NOT reply to this post.

Douglas KI7LIK's success made my day & I'm pretty happy that he is on to
figuring out his next problem. Way to go Douglas!

Having said that I agree with Stephen completely. For debugging problems
that I might be able to help on I require text cut & paste from a
console window into your email. Not html, not jpeg images, not an mp4
movie or a youtube link. I live in my text editor, it is virtually
impossible to search, sort or compare text in an image. Html format
email is an abomination.

Here is a list of my assumptions about solving problems & getting a
DRAWS hat humming along.

You have two devices, one is an RPi with the DRAWS hat installed. The
other device is plugged into the Internet and has mail & browser
capability. You could use 2 Raspberry Pi's, one is for control, the
other for test. The two devices are connected via serial port, Ethernet
or WiFi.

You have a program on your control device that can be an SSH client or
serial console. For Windows guys that usually means downloading PuTTY
for everyone else you probably already have a program that does this.

You know how to cut & paste text from your console window to another
program.

You are running an RPi image from NW Digital Radio and your UDRC or DRAWS
hat is connected to your RPi.

The first time you post a problem that you want help on besides
describing the problem in as much detail as possible, run showudrc.sh on
your RPi & cut & paste that output into an email or post to
udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io

I don't mind answering ANY question (there are no stupid questions) but
please learn how to search the forum. The search button on groups.io
forums actually works.

Thanks,

/Basil N7NIX

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