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Re: FT-897 Setup

John Amdor III
 

I bought a USB CAT cable on eBay, and use one of the 6-pin mini-DIN cables that came with my DRAWS hat from the data jack on the back of my 897D to the left mini-DIN jack on the DRAWS.

So far it works with FLDIGI using FLRIG and with WSJT-X using Hamlib.

John K0MXL
Council Bluffs IA



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


Re: FT-897 Setup

Ruben .
 

There’s an 8 pin 4x2 header next to the power connector. Check below the schematic for pin-outs.

Ruben
WA2NBL


On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom@...> wrote:



I have a -62 Cat to USB Serial on hand.  So, for the FT-897/857 we need two cables, one for CAT and one for Audio via the DRAWS.

So, to which port does DRAWS cable connect?

On 11/23/2019 6:07 PM, Ruben . wrote:
I’m working on a similar issue with FT-857. Finally realized that I needed an additional cable for CAT. Ordered an 8-pin mini-din cable and located a source for the header connector. 

I’ll post with results once CAT cable is configured.

Ruben
WA2NBL


On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom@...> wrote:

Has anyone connected their DRAWS to an FT-897 yet?  I am looking for some assistance.

Specifically, cabling needs for the setup.

It looks like from all I have read, I still need a USB to Serial to run any Rig Control outside of
PTT.

Is this correct?


Re: FT-897 Setup

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

I have a -62 Cat to USB Serial on hand.  So, for the FT-897/857 we need two cables, one for CAT and one for Audio via the DRAWS.

So, to which port does DRAWS cable connect?

On 11/23/2019 6:07 PM, Ruben . wrote:
I’m working on a similar issue with FT-857. Finally realized that I needed an additional cable for CAT. Ordered an 8-pin mini-din cable and located a source for the header connector. 

I’ll post with results once CAT cable is configured.

Ruben
WA2NBL


On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom@...> wrote:

Has anyone connected their DRAWS to an FT-897 yet?  I am looking for some assistance.

Specifically, cabling needs for the setup.

It looks like from all I have read, I still need a USB to Serial to run any Rig Control outside of
PTT.

Is this correct?


Re: FT-897 Setup

Ruben .
 

I’m working on a similar issue with FT-857. Finally realized that I needed an additional cable for CAT. Ordered an 8-pin mini-din cable and located a source for the header connector. 

I’ll post with results once CAT cable is configured.

Ruben
WA2NBL


On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via Groups.Io <ewbloom@...> wrote:

Has anyone connected their DRAWS to an FT-897 yet?  I am looking for some assistance.

Specifically, cabling needs for the setup.

It looks like from all I have read, I still need a USB to Serial to run any Rig Control outside of
PTT.

Is this correct?


FT-897 Setup

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

Has anyone connected their DRAWS to an FT-897 yet?  I am looking for some assistance.

Specifically, cabling needs for the setup.

It looks like from all I have read, I still need a USB to Serial to run any Rig Control outside of
PTT.

Is this correct?


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Mitch Winkle
 

Yes.  This is the simplest way to do these because if you need to relay it by voice, it's "paint by the numbers".  Super simple.  Date and Time stamps make the message unique along with the addressees.

On 11/22/19 5:02 PM, K4KDR wrote:
Good to know - thanks, Mitch!

That explains why the body of the message that I was using as a template is formatted the way it is (screen shot from my write-up):
...

Thanks for the info!

-Scott

================================

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:14 PM Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:
Scott,

Typically, ICS-213s are normalized down to numbered lines per the PDF
forms provided by the form owners.  What gets transmitted OTA is simply
the numeral followed by the data.

See the attached snip.

Mitch


On 11/22/19 11:50 AM, K4KDR wrote:
> Hi Mitch!
>
> Sorry, I'm not positive what you mean by "numbered format", but I did
> notice there was a field <msgseqnum> that seemed to be assigned by the
> sender (me) and incremented with each subsequent message.  So, I
> mentioned in my how-to that we should track that value and increase it
> on the next message, etc.
>
> Hope that's what you're referring to.
>
> In any event, it's cool to send via PAT and, when received on a
> Windows Winlink client, have the form pop open exactly as it should. 
> That was my metric to gauge whether I was successful or not.  I also
> contacted the net control station at one of our "Winlink Wednesday"
> stations that gives anyone interested a place to stay sharp on using
> Winlink.  He also confirmed that my ICS-213 was received correctly
> when I did a test send from the Pi.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> ===============================
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Winkle
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:30 AM
> To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [draws and udrc] #claws-mail ICS Forms
>
> I can certainly add the current ICS-213 to my UI client for PAT. Are you
> simply using the numbered format for the OTA transmission?
>
> 1.
> 2. etc.
>
> On 11/22/19 10:51 AM, K4KDR wrote:
>> Good day!
>>
>> Just to show myself that it could be done, I successfully sent an
>> ICS-213 using PAT on the Rasp Pi/DRAWS.
>>
>> Here is my write up on the manual steps I did to make it happen.  Not
>> difficult at all but someone could certainly automate the process to
>> reduce the amount of editing by hand for a new message.
>>
>> http://k4kdr.github.io/pdf/2019-10-17--ics-forms-from-pat.pdf
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> -Scott,  K4KDR
>>


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

K4KDR
 

Good to know - thanks, Mitch!

That explains why the body of the message that I was using as a template is formatted the way it is (screen shot from my write-up):

Screenshot from 2019-11-22 16-58-15.png

Thanks for the info!

-Scott

================================

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:14 PM Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:
Scott,

Typically, ICS-213s are normalized down to numbered lines per the PDF
forms provided by the form owners.  What gets transmitted OTA is simply
the numeral followed by the data.

See the attached snip.

Mitch


On 11/22/19 11:50 AM, K4KDR wrote:
> Hi Mitch!
>
> Sorry, I'm not positive what you mean by "numbered format", but I did
> notice there was a field <msgseqnum> that seemed to be assigned by the
> sender (me) and incremented with each subsequent message.  So, I
> mentioned in my how-to that we should track that value and increase it
> on the next message, etc.
>
> Hope that's what you're referring to.
>
> In any event, it's cool to send via PAT and, when received on a
> Windows Winlink client, have the form pop open exactly as it should. 
> That was my metric to gauge whether I was successful or not.  I also
> contacted the net control station at one of our "Winlink Wednesday"
> stations that gives anyone interested a place to stay sharp on using
> Winlink.  He also confirmed that my ICS-213 was received correctly
> when I did a test send from the Pi.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> ===============================
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Winkle
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:30 AM
> To: udrc@nw-digital-radio.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [draws and udrc] #claws-mail ICS Forms
>
> I can certainly add the current ICS-213 to my UI client for PAT. Are you
> simply using the numbered format for the OTA transmission?
>
> 1.
> 2. etc.
>
> On 11/22/19 10:51 AM, K4KDR wrote:
>> Good day!
>>
>> Just to show myself that it could be done, I successfully sent an
>> ICS-213 using PAT on the Rasp Pi/DRAWS.
>>
>> Here is my write up on the manual steps I did to make it happen.  Not
>> difficult at all but someone could certainly automate the process to
>> reduce the amount of editing by hand for a new message.
>>
>> http://k4kdr.github.io/pdf/2019-10-17--ics-forms-from-pat.pdf
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> -Scott,  K4KDR
>>


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

I do not send a k2s file. The file I send has an html extension.

Basil Gunn <@basil860> writes:

Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

And then I attache the k2s file to a message and receive it in Winlink
Express,
How did you receive it?
In Winlink Express click on attachment paper clip which will prompt you for which browser to
render the file with.

this is the content that is received:

<flmsg>4.0.14
:hdr_fm:21


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

And then I attache the k2s file to a message and receive it in Winlink
Express,
How did you receive it?
In Winlink Express click on attachment paper clip which will prompt you for which browser to
render the file with.

this is the content that is received:

<flmsg>4.0.14
:hdr_fm:21


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

And then I attache the k2s file to a message and receive it in Winlink Express, this is the content that is received:


<flmsg>4.0.14
:hdr_fm:21
W4EAE 20192211195114
:hdr_ed:21
W4EAE 20192211193947
<customform>
:mg:858 CUSTOM_FORM,ICS214_Initial.html
Name,’7P´û
ICS_Position,’7P´û
Home_Agency,’7P´û
Name1,’7P´û
ICS_Position1,’7P´û
Name2,’7P´û
ICS_Position2,’7P´û
Name3,’7P´û
ICS_Position3,’7P´û
Name4,’7P´û
ICS_Position4,’7P´û
Name5,’7P´û
ICS_Position5,’7P´û
Name6,’7P´û
ICS_Position6,’7P´û
Name7,’7P´û
ICS_Position7,’7P´û
Name8,’7P´û
ICS_Position8,’7P´û
Activities1,’7P´û
Activities2,’7P´û
Activities3,’7P´û
Activities4,’7P´û
Activities5,’7P´û
Activities6,’7P´û
Activities7,’7P´û
Activities8,’7P´û
Activities9,’7P´û
Activities10,’7P´û
Activities11,’7P´û
Activities12,’7P´û
Activities13,’7P´û
Activities14,’7P´û
Activities15,’7P´û
Activities16,’7P´û
Activities17,’7P´û
Activities18,’7P´û
Activities19,’7P´û
Activities20,’7P´û
Activities21,’7P´û
Activities22,’7P´û
Activities23,’7P´û
Activities24,’7P´û
parseme,’7P´û\n¶™™™™™™™°û\n¶


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

This is where I am lost.
Do attach the k2s file to the email?
Yes

And what is a k2s file?
Please read the manual: http://www.w1hkj.com/flmsg-help/
All custom messages should have file name extension ".k2s"

/Basil

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:09 PM Basil Gunn <@basil860> wrote:


Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

First off, I backed up and followed the steps you listed in
successfully sending a form. I have now gotten as far as creating a
'K2s' file (never seen that before) which theoretically contains my
complete form in some form. I have no idea where to go from here.
What directory did you save the message to?
~/.nbems/ICS

Compose a message using your mail client & attach your new message to
the Winlink email.
Send it to your self.
/Basil


I am using the DRAWS imagine with your configuration.

Linux draws 4.19.75-v7l+
FLMSG 4.0.14
Chromium
(also pat and piardopc for HF access)

...running on a Raspberry Pi 4 with the DRAWS hat attached.


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

When I start flmsg in a terminal, this is the output after attempting to open the template (which still look good in the browser at this point).  I think that this may be the source of the problem.

pi@draws:~ $ flmsg
 --disable-quic --enable-tcp-fast-open --ppapi-flash-path=/usr/lib/chromium-browser/libpepflashplayer.so --ppapi-flash-args=enable_stagevideo_auto=0 --ppapi-flash-version=
[7004:7141:1122/151855.015779:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(619)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.Notifications.GetCapabilities: object_path= /org/freedesktop/Notifications: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files
[7056:7056:1122/151856.181947:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 1 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.270786:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 2 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.300149:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 3 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.383495:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 4 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.396739:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 5 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.479431:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 6 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.510560:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 7 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.536005:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 8 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.558111:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 9 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.636218:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 10 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.645935:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 11 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.735126:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 12 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.762571:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 13 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.871962:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 14 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.878340:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 15 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151856.951471:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 16 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151858.081041:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 17 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151858.148890:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 18 times!
[7056:7056:1122/151859.902428:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(244)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 19 times!

Any ideas?


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

I tried one more thing. After completing the form and saving the k2s
file, I attempted to open it again with flmsg. The form came up and
was completely populated by non-ASCII gobledygook.
Please be more specific. What UI were you using Expert or Simple?
Try both.

What does this show:
In Expert UI file > View > HTML delivery

Start flmsg in a console. What is the console output?
/Basil


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

This is where I am lost.  Do attach the k2s file to the email?  And what is a k2s file?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:09 PM Basil Gunn <basil@...> wrote:

Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

> First off, I backed up and followed the steps you listed in
> successfully sending a form. I have now gotten as far as creating a
> 'K2s' file (never seen that before) which theoretically contains my
> complete form in some form. I have no idea where to go from here.

What directory did you save the message to?
~/.nbems/ICS

Compose a message using your mail client & attach your new  message to
the Winlink email.
Send it to your self.
/Basil


> I am using the DRAWS imagine with your configuration.
>
> Linux draws 4.19.75-v7l+
> FLMSG 4.0.14
> Chromium
> (also pat and piardopc for HF access)
>
> ...running on a Raspberry Pi 4 with the DRAWS hat attached.
>
>





--
***************************
Ryan Matthew Headley
1705 Granby Road
Cayce, SC 29033 USA

mobile - +1803-386-1799


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

First off, I backed up and followed the steps you listed in
successfully sending a form. I have now gotten as far as creating a
'K2s' file (never seen that before) which theoretically contains my
complete form in some form. I have no idea where to go from here.
What directory did you save the message to?
~/.nbems/ICS

Compose a message using your mail client & attach your new message to
the Winlink email.
Send it to your self.
/Basil


I am using the DRAWS imagine with your configuration.

Linux draws 4.19.75-v7l+
FLMSG 4.0.14
Chromium
(also pat and piardopc for HF access)

...running on a Raspberry Pi 4 with the DRAWS hat attached.


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

I tried one more thing.  After completing the form and saving the k2s file, I attempted to open it again with flmsg.  The form came up and was completely populated by non-ASCII gobledygook.


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

First off, I backed up and followed the steps you listed in successfully sending a form.  I have now gotten as far as creating a 'K2s' file (never seen that before) which theoretically contains my complete form in some form.  I have no idea where to go from here.

I am using the DRAWS imagine with your configuration.

Linux draws 4.19.75-v7l+
FLMSG 4.0.14
Chromium
(also pat and piardopc for HF access)

...running on a Raspberry Pi 4 with the DRAWS hat attached.


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

I just confirmed what I last posted worked as expected.
If you want more help please be more specific.
ie. what ICS form are you using and as much detail as you can describe.
What version of Linux: uname -a
What version of flmsg:
Which browser:

/Basil n7nix


Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

OK.

After a restart of the Raspberry Pi, the ICS form now appears on the CUSTOM
list in flmsg.

However, once the form is completed and I click 'Submit' at the bottom of
the webpage, I am returned to flmsg where instead of my entered text
appearing, something such as '�� �������� �� � ' appears.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:39 PM Ryan Matthew Headley via Groups.Io
<headley.ryan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry for the hasty response. The meat of it holds though.

After downloading the html files, moving them to the CUSTOM folder,
running flmsg, and selecting 'CUSTOM'; nothing shows up except 'Transfer
FORM.'

I promise that I am not being purposefully obtuse. What steps and I
missing?



Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Basil Gunn
 

This is what I did:

cd
cd .nbems/CUSTOM
wget https://downloads.winlink.org/User%20Programs/Standard_Forms.zip
unzip Standard_Forms.zip

flmsg <Using 'Simple User' Interface>
click file > template folder

All the Winlink files are there.
Perhaps you are using the 'Expert UI' & you didn't click 'All files'?
/Basil n7nix


Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> writes:

Sorry for the hasty response. The meat of it holds though.

After downloading the html files, moving them to the CUSTOM folder, running flmsg, and selecting 'CUSTOM'; nothing shows up except 'Transfer FORM.'

I promise that I am not being purposefully obtuse. What steps and I missing?


Re: #claws-mail ICS Forms #claws-mail

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

OK.

After a restart of the Raspberry Pi, the ICS form now appears on the CUSTOM list in flmsg.

However, once the form is completed and I click 'Submit' at the bottom of the webpage, I am returned to flmsg where instead of my entered text appearing, something such as '�� �������� �� � ' appears.


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:39 PM Ryan Matthew Headley via Groups.Io <headley.ryan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sorry for the hasty response.  The meat of it holds though.

After downloading the html files, moving them to the CUSTOM folder, running flmsg, and selecting 'CUSTOM'; nothing shows up except 'Transfer FORM.' 

I promise that I am not being purposefully obtuse.  What steps and I missing? 



--
***************************
Ryan Matthew Headley
1705 Granby Road
Cayce, SC 29033 USA

mobile - +1803-386-1799