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Raspberry pi 3b+ crash after update/upgrade #draws #a25

Justin Clark (KJ7JC)
 

I haven't used my draws in about 5 months. I started it up and did an update and then upgrade. Rebooted, now it won't reboot. I etched a new image and still get the same problem. I'm no expert on this, any help would be grea . Thanks. 


Download Issues

Daryl Jenks
 

Hello, 
    Just received my board and when trying to download the image from:Index of /downloads/  current_image.zip  
     I see minimal download speed and varying between 17 hours to 2 days left. I tried both Chrome and Edge and see basically same results.  I tested to my provider and see 90 Mbps download speeds  After 45 minutes  I have received 39,493 KB of data,  Is there an issue with you access or Server causing this delay.. 2.2g should take about 3 minutes to download.  thanks Daryl 


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Frank Ivan
 

Hi Guys,

I spent quite a bit of time on this because I, like Jonathan, have first run Draws hats which also require the dtoverlay= line.
I found the best place to put the new lines are the first non-commented lines in the /boot/Config.txt file.
If you want to make your own SD card, down load the latest Buster and then update it with sudo apt update sudo apt disc-upgrade.  Do not use rpi-update - that brings in a 64 bit experimental kernel that does not yet have the drivers you need.
After you get the system up to date, add the lines to the /boot/Config.txt - just make them the first non-comment lines and after a reboot (assuming the Draws card is installed), the aplay -l command should show the sound card.

Then you can download the n7nix file and run the config/image_install.sh.

If you want to skip all of that, you can download https://www.dropbox.com/s/i21qtsn7c9pwx19/Buster-Draws-2019-09-03.gz?dl=0 which links to a copy of Buster ready to go.  Just be sure to expand the disk when you first boot the Pi - sudo rasps-config or install gparted and use that.

73 - Frank - K0FEI


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Basil Gunn
 

f6bvp <f6bvp@...> writes:

Hi,
I finally installed last image nw14 and DRAWS driver is ok and aplay -l listed the device is present.

carte 1: udrc [udrc], périphérique 0: bcm2835-i2s-tlv320aic32x4-hifi tlv320aic32x4-hifi-0 []
Sous-périphériques: 1/1
Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0

I thought that Raspbian Busper would be ok but I was apparently wrong.
You are not wrong. The current version of Raspbian Buster has a kernel
with the required driver and will work fine with udrc/udrc II/DRAWS
hats.

You had some other problem that I was unable to determine from our
email exchange. The key is you need to have a current Raspbian kernel,
4.19.66-v7+ or newer and since you were not running a DRAWS hat you
needed to flush overlays before specifying a udrc overlay in /boot/config.txt.

dtoverlay=
dtoverlay=udrc
force_turbo=1

/Basil


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Bernard f6bvp / ai7bg
 

Hi,
I finally installed last image nw14 and DRAWS driver is ok and aplay -l listed the device is present.

**** Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK ****
carte 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], périphérique 0: bcm2835 ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA]
  Sous-périphériques: 7/7
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
  Sous-périphérique #1: subdevice #1
  Sous-périphérique #2: subdevice #2
  Sous-périphérique #3: subdevice #3
  Sous-périphérique #4: subdevice #4
  Sous-périphérique #5: subdevice #5
  Sous-périphérique #6: subdevice #6
carte 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], périphérique 1: bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI [bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA], périphérique 2: bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 [bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 1: udrc [udrc], périphérique 0: bcm2835-i2s-tlv320aic32x4-hifi tlv320aic32x4-hifi-0 []
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
 

I thought that Raspbian Busper would be ok but I was apparently wrong.

Bernard


Re: Undulating transmit audio in HF programs #draws

krys weaver
 

after the 1st i'll take it i'm in 95240...k6rys

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 10:28 AM Bryan Hoyer <bhhoyer@...> wrote:
Hi Mitch,

 It was buried in my office/house move.

You no doubt have one of the units with the cap/TX Audio problem.

I will fix and ship your unit tomorrow.

I’d like to hear more about your potential application once we get you up and running.

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On Sep 29, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:

Some communication please.  It was sent many moons ago.

On 8/26/2019 09:20, Bryan Hoyer wrote:
Hi Mitch, I’ll check it out

Send it to:
NW Digital Radio
RMA<ordernumber>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On Aug 26, 2019, at 5:54 AM, Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:

If no-one has any input I will package up my DRAWS for a return.  It's a might expensive GPS hat at this point.





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Re: Draws Hat for sale

 

Fabien,

You probably have one of the recall units with the cap problem.

Return it for rework or refund, your choice.

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR


Re: Undulating transmit audio in HF programs #draws

 

Hi Mitch,

 It was buried in my office/house move.

You no doubt have one of the units with the cap/TX Audio problem.

I will fix and ship your unit tomorrow.

I’d like to hear more about your potential application once we get you up and running.

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On Sep 29, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:

Some communication please.  It was sent many moons ago.

On 8/26/2019 09:20, Bryan Hoyer wrote:
Hi Mitch, I’ll check it out

Send it to:
NW Digital Radio
RMA<ordernumber>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On Aug 26, 2019, at 5:54 AM, Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:

If no-one has any input I will package up my DRAWS for a return.  It's a might expensive GPS hat at this point.




Re: Undulating transmit audio in HF programs #draws

Mitch Winkle
 

Some communication please.  It was sent many moons ago.

On 8/26/2019 09:20, Bryan Hoyer wrote:
Hi Mitch, I’ll check it out

Send it to:
NW Digital Radio
RMA<ordernumber>
150 Cessna Ave
Roche Harbor WA 98250

Thanks,
Bryan K7UDR

On Aug 26, 2019, at 5:54 AM, Mitch Winkle <ab4mw@...> wrote:

If no-one has any input I will package up my DRAWS for a return.  It's a might expensive GPS hat at this point.



Draws Hat for sale

Fabien, F4IDL
 

Hello,

I made a mistake, this is not made for me, I can't get anything to work with it, it's not made for me so I'm selling it.

120€ with shipping.

Just let me know if you're interested.


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Bernard Pidoux
 

Hi Basil,
I would like to try new RPi image.as you suggested.
Where can I download it from ?

Bernard


Re: Draws image

Cowan Bowman
 

I've always had great results with Rufus.

Cowan N5QDH


Re: Draws image

Cowan Bowman
 

Rufus works very well on windows 10 to create bootable image on the SD card.


Cowan
N5QDH

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:02 AM rhclinton <rhclinton@...> wrote:
The problem is an incompatibility between Etcher and Windows 10.  Reference to the Etcher forum revealed that a number of others had suffered the same problem (not in relation to Draws).  I rescusitated a Windows 8.1 machine and installed Etcher and was able to flash the SD with the Draws image.  It booted correctly in a RPi 3.  I tried three diffeent Win10 machines and had the same problem.  All three were running Bitdefender but turning off the Bitdefender firewall and other services that are often implicated in blocked applications had no effect in this case.  One of the posts on the Etcher forum indicated a suspicion of Windows Defender, so perhaps it is related to virus/firewall software.

One of the posts by an Etcher support guy said something to the effect that they were "looking into a mitigation", but that was quite some time ago.  The message is, then, that if you want to flash images to an SD on a Windows machine, then hang on to a pre-Win10 machine.

Bob  G0BUX


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Basil Gunn
 

As suggested I moved driver lines to [all] section.
However this did not help.
Later on today look for a new RPi image that should fix your problem.
However adding those 3 lines to the bottom of the latest Raspbian images
should work. I don't have enough visibility into your system to
understand why it doesn't.

I performed a RaspBerry Pi firmware + kernel update using rpi-update
upgrading to kernel is 4.19.75-v7+
Since the kernel you get from doing this is bleeding edge I have not
tested it and do NOT support it. For others reading this post please do
NOT run rpi-update as that will install an unsupported kernel.

Interestingly there are now two errors messages displayed when running show-udrc.sh

chk1: snd-soc-tlv320aic32x4-i2c.ko exists, Driver CONFLICT
chk2: snd-soc-tlv320aic32x4.ko exists, Driver CONFLICT
You are seeing these messages because that script you are running hasn't
been updated for compatibility with Linux buster. If you update the
scripts from my repository you will get a version that handles buster
properly.

cd
cd n7nix
git pull

/Basil


Re: Draws image

Mitch Winkle
 

I have done multiple Etcher images lately on a Win10 machine that is at level 1809 IIRC.  Maybe it's something in 1903.  I do not allow Defender or any Firewalls to be running as it is largely an air-gapped PC.

On 9/28/2019 09:02, rhclinton wrote:
The problem is an incompatibility between Etcher and Windows 10.  ...

One of the posts by an Etcher support guy said something to the effect that they were "looking into a mitigation", but that was quite some time ago.  The message is, then, that if you want to flash images to an SD on a Windows machine, then hang on to a pre-Win10 machine.

Bob  G0BUX
_._,_._


Re: Draws image

August Johnson KG7BZ
 

I use Win32DiskImager on Windows 10, works just fine.

August KG7BZ


Re: Draws image

rhclinton <rhclinton@...>
 

The problem is an incompatibility between Etcher and Windows 10.  Reference to the Etcher forum revealed that a number of others had suffered the same problem (not in relation to Draws).  I rescusitated a Windows 8.1 machine and installed Etcher and was able to flash the SD with the Draws image.  It booted correctly in a RPi 3.  I tried three diffeent Win10 machines and had the same problem.  All three were running Bitdefender but turning off the Bitdefender firewall and other services that are often implicated in blocked applications had no effect in this case.  One of the posts on the Etcher forum indicated a suspicion of Windows Defender, so perhaps it is related to virus/firewall software.

One of the posts by an Etcher support guy said something to the effect that they were "looking into a mitigation", but that was quite some time ago.  The message is, then, that if you want to flash images to an SD on a Windows machine, then hang on to a pre-Win10 machine.

Bob  G0BUX


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Bernard Pidoux
 

Adding lsmod dump could help ?


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Bernard Pidoux
 

As suggested I moved driver lines to [all] section.
However this did not help.

I performed a RaspBerry Pi firmware + kernel update using rpi-update
upgrading to kernel is 4.19.75-v7+ 

Interestingly there are now two errors messages displayed when running show-udrc.sh 

chk1: snd-soc-tlv320aic32x4-i2c.ko exists, Driver CONFLICT
chk2: snd-soc-tlv320aic32x4.ko exists, Driver CONFLICT
==== Sound Card ====
No udrc sound card found.
==== Pi Ver ====
 Pi 3 Model B Mfg by Sony UK
 Has WiFi
==== udrc Ver ====
Found a UDRC II
 
     HAT ID EEPROM
Name:        hat
Product:     Universal Digital Radio Controller II
Product ID:  0x0003
Product ver: 0x0001
UUID:        ea0d20c1-38fd-4dc4-a633-5ea145700e79
Vendor:      NW Digital Radio
....

Bernard


Re: DRAWS and Buster distro

Basil Gunn
 

The problem is Anna's driver patches for the tlv320aic sound codec
didn't ALL make it into the Linux mainline kernel when Raspbian first
released Buster. There have been 3 or more kernel updates in Raspbian
since June. The current kernel used by Raspbian, 4.19.66-v7+ has all of
Anna's patches & works fine.

Since the kernel you are currently using may have changed since you
modified your /boot/config.txt file try commenting out the dtoverlay=
line and running 'aplay -l'

Did the design of Draws boards change with respect to the eprom?
The overlay file required by the NW Digital Radio hats (UDRC, UDRC II &
DRAWS) grew too large to fit into the eeprom and is now loaded from the
boot file system. Also the Linux overlay code changed the names of some
of the overlay variables making any of the previous hat overlays that
are loaded from eeprom not work. Those hats require that the dtoverlay=
be used.

I would like to find out which NW Digital Radio hat you have:
udrcver.sh
and what version of the kernel you are running:
uname -r
and if you comment out the dtoverlay= line whether you still see the
problem of the hat not being enumerated.
aplay -l

/Basil

Jonathan Magee <jmagee@...> writes:

That is not what I have found in practice. I created a clean sd card from
the official image for buster and to get the Draws Hat to be recognised I
had to add in the dtoverlay= line
When I did investigate it was trying to load in a device tree from the HAT
and failed. Did the design of Draws boards change with respect to the
eprom?

Regards
Jonathan

On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 16:19, Basil Gunn <@basil860> wrote:


Basil's advice IS totally correct. If you have a DRAWS hat, NOT a UDRC
or UDRC II then you do NOT need to include the overlay flush line
dtoverlay=. It doesn't hurt anything to include the line but since the
overlay does NOT exist in eeprom for the DRAWS hat as it does for the
UDR & some of the UDRC II hats it really doesn't actually do anything.

If you have a DRAWS hat and find that you need to use dtoverlay= to get
the DRAWS driver to load and recognize the hat then you have other
problems, like the kernel you are using doesn't have all of Anna'a
patches or your upgrade path has left a bunch of stale overlays in
/boot/overlays directory.

On a new install using Raspbian with kernel version 4.19.66 or newer you
will not have that problem.
/Basil

Jonathan Magee <jmagee@...> writes:

Hi Bernard
Basil's advice isn't totally correct, for some Draw Hats you need to
include in /boot/config.txt the line:
dtoverlay=
as well as the other lines. So the extra lines are (as per UDRC & UDRC II
hats )

dtoverlay=
dtoverlay=draws,alsaname=udrc
force_turbo=1

That is what I had to do with my Draws Hat
Regards
Jonathan GI7KMC

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 12:09, Bernard Pidoux <bernard.f6bvp@...>
wrote:

Hi Basil,
Unfortunately /boot/config.txt modifications does not work.
aplay -l does not display card1: udrc
Here is the screen dump :


I suspect a conflict with forced sound through HDMI1 display.

Regards,

Bernard